Don’t be surprised if corporations bought out instances or whole development teams. Good thing new Inatances can be launched and the community can always fork the code and continue work.
So companies fucked up the internet, and people had to make a new internet inside the internet. And when companies fuck that up too, we’ll make a new internet inside that one!
Can corporations fuck it up if they want to? Couldn’t we just migrate to a new instance and not federate? Or not federate with them from the beginning?
I’ve already seen it happen with a company creating an account to plug their meal plan site, same thing that has been happening on reddit since it started. Just don’t trust any account thats trying to sell you something.
I mean, that’s the way it goes sometimes. I know it’s like “duh just be like this!” Type statement but people really shouldn’t ever attach themselves to websites, brands, etc. Always be mentally ready to walk away. That doesn’t mean walk at the first shitty experience, but, you know. Gotta know when to ol’ yeller something and reddit passed that point a long time ago. Discord is my personal ol’ yeller project right now besides reddit. Trying to get people to move off since they’re just becoming greedier and greedier + it’s centralized as fuck and they’re starting to make moves, it seems, towards more censorship there despite that kind of being the opposite of what people came to expect.
I just wouldn’t use a corporate server. This here is more like old internet before the likes of google started to buy everything and consolidate the internet. Running a single server is not the same as a server farm in multiple countries.
I started on lemme.world but it’s been getting hammered so I made a backup account on lemm.ee
Yes when your feed is on local is the server you are on and all is all servers. It gets weirder though because you will also see posts from defederated servers, we can still comment like normal on them too but that server itself that’s defederated the people on that server will not be communicating with the rest of the federation.
I don’t think this will be a popular take but I think big companies joining the Fediverse has the potential to be a healthy thing. They’d have the resources to make it more viable to onboard the masses. This would grow the graph and the content pool.
Once onboarded, people can hear the gospel from us Fediverse-freaks and potentially migrate. The concept of finding and joining a federated instance won’t be so scary. The people that won’t migrate probably never were going to.
Will they be perfect citizens? Almost certainly not, but it doesn’t have to be all bad
Ads do suck and the whole industry is a hazard, but if another instance wants to run some and recoup server bills it doesn’t seem like my problem; I’ll find a new instance with a different financial model. If they inject ads into feeds I’d want them defederated; it all becomes a selling point to move to a different instance
These are the masses that literally do not seek anything that is not packaged and maketed and placed directly beneath their noses as the latest zeitgeist, the must have, if you don’t join you’re out of touch!!!
It’s not exactly conducive to critical thought processes, and a large part of valid arguments about social media being harmful.
That’s the sad pickle though - you don’t want to gatekeep voices, but at the same time there needs to be some effort put in if you want your voice heard - an ersatz idiot filter.
I mean, there are multiple visual and audible walk-through videos on YouTube available to teach people how to make an account here. They are step by step, and you can see what to click.
No one needed a walk-through to sign up for Threads last week; that should be the goal IMO for any decentralized network to thrive. Being decentralized makes that inherently more difficult but I believe it’s a worthwhile goal.
I know it probably sounds insane but I think the Fediverse has more potential than a niche social network for the data conscious - but I think it needs to be accessible to fulfill that vision
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]
Rules:
Be civil and nice.
Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
This is the first time I’ve seen a Papers Please meme, and it makes me so happy.
God dammit Jorji, get it right.
Can you not expand comment images in Jerboa? I can’t read that and I can’t figure out how to make it bigger.
I can’t expand on Jerboa either, but it says
Same!
I’m gonna spam this everywhere. Thank you!
I can hear this image
instances collectively agreeing to defederate from corporate ones is what will stop them
Don’t be surprised if corporations bought out instances or whole development teams. Good thing new Inatances can be launched and the community can always fork the code and continue work.
It’s decentralized though. That’s literally the reason I believe in the Fediverse
The Internet was built to be a decentralised network, too.
So companies fucked up the internet, and people had to make a new internet inside the internet. And when companies fuck that up too, we’ll make a new internet inside that one!
In order to screw up Lemmy, corporations would have to take over 1300 or so Instances, scattered in different countries all over the world.
The second they screwed up the most popular Instance(s), folks would just move to other Instances and they could defederate from the corporate ones.
Can corporations fuck it up if they want to? Couldn’t we just migrate to a new instance and not federate? Or not federate with them from the beginning?
I’ve already seen it happen with a company creating an account to plug their meal plan site, same thing that has been happening on reddit since it started. Just don’t trust any account thats trying to sell you something.
We have the powe to stop corporations. At least for now, as we control the fediverse. However keep in mind, everything meets its end inevitably.
Do we really want normies on our site? Will they really act as bait for the megacorps to come and ruin our federation?
Corps joining is fine. It’s when the corps are out in control that the issues arise
This is not how the meme template is supposed to be used
Thank god someone else noticed. I was starting to doubt my sanity. More than usual, I mean.
I mean, that’s the way it goes sometimes. I know it’s like “duh just be like this!” Type statement but people really shouldn’t ever attach themselves to websites, brands, etc. Always be mentally ready to walk away. That doesn’t mean walk at the first shitty experience, but, you know. Gotta know when to ol’ yeller something and reddit passed that point a long time ago. Discord is my personal ol’ yeller project right now besides reddit. Trying to get people to move off since they’re just becoming greedier and greedier + it’s centralized as fuck and they’re starting to make moves, it seems, towards more censorship there despite that kind of being the opposite of what people came to expect.
Don’t worry I joined to even it out
I haven’t touched Reddit in years and hate corporations
Let’s hope this plan works and more people who don’t use Reddit and hate corporations join
Then we’ll create our own network. With blackjack and hookers!
I just wouldn’t use a corporate server. This here is more like old internet before the likes of google started to buy everything and consolidate the internet. Running a single server is not the same as a server farm in multiple countries.
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I started on lemme.world but it’s been getting hammered so I made a backup account on lemm.ee Yes when your feed is on local is the server you are on and all is all servers. It gets weirder though because you will also see posts from defederated servers, we can still comment like normal on them too but that server itself that’s defederated the people on that server will not be communicating with the rest of the federation.
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I don’t think this will be a popular take but I think big companies joining the Fediverse has the potential to be a healthy thing. They’d have the resources to make it more viable to onboard the masses. This would grow the graph and the content pool.
Once onboarded, people can hear the gospel from us Fediverse-freaks and potentially migrate. The concept of finding and joining a federated instance won’t be so scary. The people that won’t migrate probably never were going to.
Will they be perfect citizens? Almost certainly not, but it doesn’t have to be all bad
But with big companies comes advertising which is one big reason why I’m here and not on the official Reddit app.
Ads do suck and the whole industry is a hazard, but if another instance wants to run some and recoup server bills it doesn’t seem like my problem; I’ll find a new instance with a different financial model. If they inject ads into feeds I’d want them defederated; it all becomes a selling point to move to a different instance
Do you want to onboard the masses though?
These are the masses that literally do not seek anything that is not packaged and maketed and placed directly beneath their noses as the latest zeitgeist, the must have, if you don’t join you’re out of touch!!!
It’s not exactly conducive to critical thought processes, and a large part of valid arguments about social media being harmful.
I do think there’s lots of people who have something meaningful to say that can’t or won’t take the time to learn to navigate the Fediverse
That’s the sad pickle though - you don’t want to gatekeep voices, but at the same time there needs to be some effort put in if you want your voice heard - an ersatz idiot filter.
I mean, there are multiple visual and audible walk-through videos on YouTube available to teach people how to make an account here. They are step by step, and you can see what to click.
I learned by googling it, myself.
How easy are you talking, here?
No one needed a walk-through to sign up for Threads last week; that should be the goal IMO for any decentralized network to thrive. Being decentralized makes that inherently more difficult but I believe it’s a worthwhile goal.
I know it probably sounds insane but I think the Fediverse has more potential than a niche social network for the data conscious - but I think it needs to be accessible to fulfill that vision