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A lot of eastern Europeans actually miss/look back fondly on the USSR days… I’m not exactly a fan of them or other “communist” regimes, as they were all basically thinly veiled dictatorships, but standard of living was higher for most of the former block countries.

I really don’t get all the china dick riding going on. I gotta think it’s driven by bots and Chinese netizens. The west is a little unfair on their views of China, but they grab descenters with secret police and quash any form of opposition to their one party system. People who praise them and act like that’s a better system are crazy. Really wish we could build some decent highspeed rail network in America though…

I’m from an ex soviet country and I can tell you that the people who miss it are the ones who got free apartments and property from people who were kidnapped and sent to the soviet death camps in siberia. I have not met anyone else who misses that time when you had to live in constant fear being deported and worked to death and when your culture and language was basically criminalised.

I really don’t get China being seen as a communist state. At this point it’s a straight up fascist dictatorship.

Yup. There’s basically never been a true communist state. Theyve all been dictatorships that attempt to establish communism. Which is a long drawn out process. The dictatorship gets entreched and never really gives up power.

The ruling class/wealthy if a country will never willingly agree to communism. They have too much to lose. So it always happens by revolution, which will always have a strong military leader to succeed. Human nature makes this always play out in a similar fashion regardless of that leaders initial intent.

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yeah communism will never work, at least for more then a year.

A lot of eastern Europeans actually miss/look back fondly on the USSR days…

Being from here, I can say that those are are people who either 1. Look back fondly just because they were young back then, and now they’re old, or 2. Were connected enough to the party to be privileged.

Grandparents from one side of my family were the latter, and their political views nowadays are strongly pro-Russian these days, while everyone else(whose lives were improved after fall of USSR) is pro-Western. Funny how that works.

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From my eastern block friends they are very confused how the USA could have allowed homelessness, they remember the bread lines so it’s not all great memories, but they do talk about how everyone at least had a home, a job and some standard of living - where it seems the standard of living is higher in Western countries.

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From my eastern block friends they are very confused how the USA could have allow homelessness

Yeah, looking from the outside, the USA seems like it’s in a mess that it needs to fix.

but they do talk about how everyone at least had a home and some standard of living - where it seems the standard of living is higher in Western countries.

It is easy to look back at worse times in the past with pink glasses of nostalgia… Yes, everyone did have a home, but the standard of living was piss-poor - except for people with connections, who had it much muuuuch better, like my aforementioned grandparents.

I’m from one of the Baltic states, and honestly the standards of living now are much better for the vast majority of people than it was in the USSR, even for minimum wage earners.

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