Dr. Jenkem
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Monetisation rules are a direct result of capitalism. Profits are what motivates the decision making. In a post-capitalism economy it would be the needs and wants that motivates the decision making. One of the failures of capitalism is that we assume wants/needs has a correlation with profits, when clearly the enshitification demonstrates otherwise.

Kaea
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In socialism nobody wants to work so good luck with your YouTube. There is a reason for proprietary software being most popular and often more feature rich. What we need is capitalism + more opensource work from us, regular people. Capitalism + opensource is way to go.

You posted this on an open source platform built by volunteers without any hint of irony. 🤡

Kaea
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If you seriously compare socialism with opensource then I’m sorry for you.

I’m huge advocate for opensource software and I can even say it’s my life passion and I really know how important the relation between capitalism and opensource is.

You wouldn’t have react.js without capitalism. You know what is made in react.js? Mastodon

They could have used different library for js. one made totally by volunteers, but they haven’t. Why? Capitalism and opensource provide reliable products because there is a money factor and it fuels development

Kaea
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Constructive reply

When somebody thinks that something like react.js wouldn’t be possible without capitalism, you can only laugh or cry. If you really can’t understand that open source existed long before corps started messing with it, then you’re an utter ignoramus not worth having a discussion with.

Kaea
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I don’t think you understand what I have said. React.js would be possible without capitalism. But it is made by Facebook (capitalist company). And it must be a really reliable choice if Facebook and Mastodon decided to use it

The internet itself exists despite capitalism, not because of it. It was a public research project.

See, we can both cherry pick.

I’m not sure what’s so special about react.js being made by a capitalist company. Saying that Mastodon uses a popular library that happened to come out from a commercial company is some kind of gotcha is frankly incoherent.

Clown shit doesn’t deserve ‘constructive’ replies tbqhwu

If you seriously compare socialism with opensource then I’m sorry for you.

This is how big tech saw free software until quite recently. Microsoft used to call linux communist.

FOSS basically goes against the concept of private property of software and embraced common ownership of software. Without private property, there is no capitalism. I wouldn’t call FOSS communism or socialism, but there are elements in it.

You wouldn’t have react.js without capitalism.

Ok, and what’s your point? If you read Marx, one essential point he claims is that without capitalism, there cannot be socialism.

They could have used different library for js. one made totally by volunteers, but they haven’t. Why?

Probably because they saw no use in reinventing the wheel? And why should they?

It’s as if you told a revolutionary during the French revolution “You used weapons that you looted from the Bastille, weapons that were produced by the king.”. What exactly would be the argument here?

Dr. Jenkem
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In socialism nobody wants to work so good luck with your YouTube

They said, on a decentralized, free and open source platform, developed by socialists.

Nobody? Look to be honest there are some lazy people that dont want to work but most of us will be happy to work in a socialist economy where we the workers get compensated fairly. Capitalism and open source dont go hand by hand. People is literally creating all of this amazing products for free!! Workinf for the community thats what socialism is. And also the proprietary software is more “popular” because big companies just take open source and make it proprietary then they said they created just look at Apple and RedHat.

Kaea
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huge part of opensource is funded and developed by capitalistic companies. Take Linux for example.

And imagine if you wanted to open your own coffee shop. Where would you get a place for it? From the state probably. But what if they decide that there is no need for new coffee shop? You would have problem. In capitalism on the other hand you have your free will and as long as you have money you can open your coffee shop anytime anywhere. I know it’s not really as easy to make money but if capitalism isn’t broken by stupid regulations and other nonsense it really can work, allowing you to take cheap loans and start your own businesses.

I live in a post communist country and trust me I know how shitty socialism is

Not from the state. From the community. And the community would be happy for more nice stuff

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