It’s another politics community! As part of the continuing fallout of pretty much everyone bashing [email protected] for being objectively horrible, I decided to make one. Let’s see how it goes.
General guidelines are, more or less: You can be a dick, but don’t argue in bad faith. Less strictness in terms of “only post what I want you to post” than some of the existing options. You can take any viewpoint you want to take, but you may have to defend it. No drive-by shouted opinions, no abusiveness, no obvious propaganda or trash sources.
Detailed rules follow. Let me know if you want to help moderate. I expect that traffic will be a little slow for the beginning but as work ramps up it would presumably be good to have others involved.
Any politics anywhere in the world. Inevitably it’ll be 99% US stuff, but that’s not a rule.
This community works differently to how most politics communities work. It has strict rules designed to facilitate productive discussion. You can be rude, to a point, but you can’t participate in bad faith:
If you claim someone said something they didn’t say, that’s a temp ban.
If you make a factual claim but then aren’t interested in backing it up, that’s a temp ban.
If you’re asked one or two reasonable questions about what you said, and you’re still talking but you’re pretending the questions didn’t happen or rejecting the premise of answering them, that’s a temp ban.
The idea is to make the discussion productive. Let’s see how it works. Maybe this is a fool’s errand but IDK how any set of moderation could be worse than lemmy.world.
Other misc rules:
Reliable sources only.
Keep it productive please.
Self posts for discussion are fine. This includes videos or photos. No meme posts or screenshots please.
Hm… so part of my concern about the “everything else” politics community is that I feel like it is guaranteed to not really get used all that much. There’s always going to be [email protected] or [email protected] or [email protected], I feel like pretty much all the political content that is put up by denizens of whatever part of the world is going to go into a region-specific place, and the “everything but the US” community just wouldn’t get used.
I feel like the two obvious options are:
[email protected] which is for “anything” with a specific focus on political news, and in practice is 99% US politics
[email protected], which is for US politics only, i.e. the same thing but we have to have little disputes every now and then about whether something like Petro wanting to move the UN belongs there or not
I went with the first option. I really am fine with renaming it to [email protected], completely up to you. If it’s the second option I feel like just deleting [email protected] unless someone has a use for it, to keep things clean, is probably better.
I do get the concern from the rest of the world that it’s annoying to have US stuff as the “default” and everything else get put in its own region-specific “non default” category. Maybe uspolitics is a little more forward thinking in terms of getting away from that thinking (especially as the years go by and the US collapses in on itself like a rotten pumpkin, geopolitically speaking).
(And yeah, [email protected] is fantastic, I like it. I sort of bounce between quokk.au and piefed.social currently in terms of my “main” account.)
Yes there are good arguments to be made for either option. You do you, it’s fine. All this only affects the url, you can change the title and description of a community any time… 95% of people will find the community through a UI that abstracts away the url anyway.
95% of people will find the community through a UI that abstracts away the url anyway.
I wouldn’t be so sure, there are quite a few apps that only show the URL name. I’ve had to recreate complete communities in the past due to this as members were complaining that the name they were seeing was not matching with the community, so I know how crucial naming the community ‘correctly’ from the start is.
As Rimu is fine with both, I would really please ask you to consider !uspolitics. Or if you want external feedback, we can open a thread on whatever community you see fit (could be [email protected] , but also [email protected] as it’s related too) to get additional feedback from users.
It may seem like it’s a pet peeve, but really, it’s something that’s been on the mind of a lot of people that lemmy.world, a server hosted and managed in the Netherlands, gets its main “politics” community dedicated to the USA. I’ve seen users being kind of annoyed by it, and I would like to avoid a similar kind of feeling towards piefed.social.
I know piefed.social is based in New Zealand, but you get the idea.
I feel like pretty much all the political content that is put up by denizens of whatever part of the world is going to go into a region-specific place, and the “everything but the US” community just wouldn’t get used.
A potential solution is
[email protected] for every world news (most of them are politics anyway), as it is already the case
Note that your concern about the world community not being used it true for news as well, still [email protected] and the several country-dedicated communities (e.g. [email protected] , [email protected] ) are all active
unless someone has a use for it, to keep things clean, is probably better.
you can maybe keep it and just lock it, with links to the communities listed above. That prevents someone else from taking that community name.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]
A place to post new communities all over Lemmy for discovery and promotion.
Rules
The rules for behavior are a straight carry over of Mastodon.World’s rules. You can click the link but we’ve reposted them here in brief, as a guideline. We will continue to use the Mastodon.World rules as the master list. Over all, be nice to each other and remember this isn’t a community built around debate. For the rules about formatting your posts, scroll down to number 2.
1. Follow the rules of Mastodon.world, which can be found here.
A. Provide an inclusive and supportive environment. This means if it isn’t rulebreaking and we can’t be supportive to them then we probably shouldn’t engage.
B. No illegal content.
C. Use content warnings where appropriate. This means mark your submissions NSFW if need be.
D. No uncivil behavior. This includes, but is not limited to: Name Calling; Bullying; Trolling; Disruptive Commenting; or Personal Criticisms.
E. No Harrassment. As an example in relation to Transgender people this includes, deadnaming, misgendering, and promotion of conversion therapy. Similarly Misogyny, Misandry, and Racism are also banned here.
2. Include a community or instance title and description in your post title. - A following example of this would be New Communities - A place to post new communities or instances all over Lemmy for discovery and promotion.
3. Follow the formatting. - The formatting as included below is important for people getting universal links across Lemmy as easily as possible.
Formatting
Please include this following format in your post:
A: At least one user in an instance needs to search for a community before it gets fetched. Searching for the community will bring it into the instance and it will fetch a few of the most recent posts without comments. If a user is subscribed to a community, then all of the future posts and interactions are now in-sync.
Q: When I try to create a post, the circle just spins forever. Why is that?
A: This is a current known issue with large communities. Sometimes it does get posted, but just continues spinning, but sometimes it doesn’t get posted and continues spinning. If it doesn’t actually get posted, the best thing to do is try later. However, only some people seem to be having this problem at the moment.
Hm… so part of my concern about the “everything else” politics community is that I feel like it is guaranteed to not really get used all that much. There’s always going to be [email protected] or [email protected] or [email protected], I feel like pretty much all the political content that is put up by denizens of whatever part of the world is going to go into a region-specific place, and the “everything but the US” community just wouldn’t get used.
I feel like the two obvious options are:
I went with the first option. I really am fine with renaming it to [email protected], completely up to you. If it’s the second option I feel like just deleting [email protected] unless someone has a use for it, to keep things clean, is probably better.
I do get the concern from the rest of the world that it’s annoying to have US stuff as the “default” and everything else get put in its own region-specific “non default” category. Maybe uspolitics is a little more forward thinking in terms of getting away from that thinking (especially as the years go by and the US collapses in on itself like a rotten pumpkin, geopolitically speaking).
(And yeah, [email protected] is fantastic, I like it. I sort of bounce between quokk.au and piefed.social currently in terms of my “main” account.)
Yes there are good arguments to be made for either option. You do you, it’s fine. All this only affects the url, you can change the title and description of a community any time… 95% of people will find the community through a UI that abstracts away the url anyway.
I wouldn’t be so sure, there are quite a few apps that only show the URL name. I’ve had to recreate complete communities in the past due to this as members were complaining that the name they were seeing was not matching with the community, so I know how crucial naming the community ‘correctly’ from the start is.
As Rimu is fine with both, I would really please ask you to consider !uspolitics. Or if you want external feedback, we can open a thread on whatever community you see fit (could be [email protected] , but also [email protected] as it’s related too) to get additional feedback from users.
It may seem like it’s a pet peeve, but really, it’s something that’s been on the mind of a lot of people that lemmy.world, a server hosted and managed in the Netherlands, gets its main “politics” community dedicated to the USA. I’ve seen users being kind of annoyed by it, and I would like to avoid a similar kind of feeling towards piefed.social.
I know piefed.social is based in New Zealand, but you get the idea.
A potential solution is
Note that your concern about the world community not being used it true for news as well, still [email protected] and the several country-dedicated communities (e.g. [email protected] , [email protected] ) are all active
you can maybe keep it and just lock it, with links to the communities listed above. That prevents someone else from taking that community name.