You also wanna make sure to get in the habit of punching with your thumb at the side of your fist and not in front of your index finger, cause you might otherwise break your own thumb on impact.

Don’t hold it inside your fingers either for the same reason.

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Rage against the machine

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Former Speaker of the House, ® Paul Ryan’s favorite band

(He didn’t understand that he was a cog in the machine they were raging against)

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THIS IS *NOT* OKAY.

This sets a dangerous example, and we need to talk about it.

If you punch a Nazi like this, you’re going to break your wrist. Remember, make contact with the largest two knuckles (index and middle finger) and keep a strong wrist. You want to hurt the Nazi, not yourself!

Stay safe out there and keep punching Nazis.

This has been a public service announcement.

[Two images shown side by side. The first shows a young man in a black shirt standing on a crowded sidewalk, his hand raised above his head in the historical “Nazi salute” with a lightly smug expression. There is a person’s hand holding up their middle finger prominently in his direction visible from the right side of the screen, but everything past their forearm is out of the image frame. In the second image, the same man in the black shirt is shown with his hand at his side, as a second man in an orange shirt is shown in the middle of punching the taller black-shirted man in the jaw. The fist of the man punching is angled slightly upwards at the wrist, so his fist makes contact at the knuckles on his fingers rather than using the flat surface of a typical punch. The image is captured before the man in the black shirt reacts to the punch. The hand holding up a middle finger is still visible in the right of the frame.]


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I definitely appreciate any punch that gets thrown in a Nazi’s direction, but I agree, stay safe. If you have a can of industrial strength bear mace, use that, instead. Really get in in their holes, too. Mouth, ear, and nose. If you are brave enough, try other holes, too. Every hole filled with bear mace is one less hole spewing vile hate speech.

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So bear mace is typically weaker than mace meant for people. So I recommend full power self defense mace/pepper spray for use against nazis. Other than that small detail, I’m fully on board with your recommended plan.

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Bowling ball

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Woke lives matter?

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See if you can explain the content of your comment.

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  1. Needing to reinforce that you hate nazis everytime is pretty woke cause woke people are always like “oh, I hate nazis, and look, I’m so cool, I hate them”. It’s just so simplistic and I think I’m just tired of people repeating that word everytime they can.

  2. You shouldn’t use of violence no matter how much of an asshole someone is. If you use violence or threat to use it against someone not in self-defense way, you’ve already lost the battle.

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I want to thank you for mentioning your belief that violence is not a good answer, because it prompted me to read up on the Stonewall riots before using it in a reply, which lead me to learning a lot more about the LGBTQIA+ community’s long struggle for equality in the United States than I expected.

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Well, it’s good that I helped you somehow but that was just a basic thing.

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Your use of the word “woke” in this thread suggests that your ban from gaming discussions probably arises from others concluding you aren’t the kind of person they want to associate with.

When Republicans’ lawyers actually have to define it under oath, here’s what they say:

DeSantis’ general counsel, Ryan Newman, responded that the term means “the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.”

Believing “wokeness” (as everyone defines it when they’re being honest) to be evil seems like a position that’s hard to support, at least without maintaining an intentional veil of ignorance.

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Wokeness unlike other words are only associated with bad stuff and doesn’t ever refer to any good part of the left-wing communities, you can identify more as a left guy and still don’t like wokeness no matter what groups you support as it is associated with racism, sexism, double standards coming from someone or some group or entity that supposedly defends equality. Still I don’t know what that has to do with a ring or a game community from a country that doesn’t even know what that term is about.

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I brought up the gaming because you mentioned in another thread thinking people banned you after you said reasonable things and I observed that it might have been a result of people seeing what you wrote in other places.

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Unfortunately or fortunately that’s not what happened. I don’t know if that would be any better cause they would at least be reading more things other people say before freaking out for people not liking their political agenda but also would show they’re maybe even more futile.

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When you say “political agenda” do you mean, “people trying to be treated fairly and other people trying to prevent that”? I suppose that is technically a political agenda.

I wish there was a nazi punching training camp. We need to teach the people how to punch nazis the right way.

Its called a boxing gym.

Be careful punching nazis. A single punch can kill. People have gone to prison for a single punch. Do it masked up!

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Yep, I was a mod on /r/Edinburgh and got my account suspended for (as far as I can tell) abusing nazis and proto-fascists that were causing trouble on a post on the sub.

Thank you for your service o7

This is my first post on the fediverse! Fuck Nazis.

I’ve only just joined after about 11 years on reddit, and I’ve only just realised we can say this shit about nazis here. I feel like a weight just lifted off my back.

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Some nazis turn back though, so there’s potential value in their lives. Some even use their previous cred in those circles to try to turn more. Probably being more effective than anyone who punches nazis.

True, but you should not assume that they will. As long as they are a nazi, they need to understand the societal shunning and physical danger cost that goes along with such a disgusting ideology.

Punching the head isn’t a great idea in general, it’s better to just open palm it and save knuckles for the soft places. Better yet, just use your elbow or forearm, or a baseball bat.

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I got banned from a regular sub on Reddit for saying it’s ok to punch Nazis. How refreshing.

Probably because it’s not okay to assault people who you disagree with or find unforgivable. Down votes and punching is easy, little kid stuff. Seeing where they are coming from, what they’ve been through, and understanding why they are this way, and helping them see their way out of it. That is the difficult part.

A few punches in the face while screaming “fuck you Nazi” might help them along.

“People I don’t agree with” and “Nazis” aren’t the same people. I sympathize with people who have lives that lead them down the path to that, but once they’ve committed themselves to Nazism and start saluting in the street, then there’s no more sympathy.

To be clear, you can come back from a lot of shitty beliefs. I have. But I also didn’t march in white pride parades with swastikas. I’m not talking about run of the mill conservatives.

Cringe take to glorify any violence for having an opinion even if its offensive just as yours could be equally offensive to them. If you say your feelings aren’t hurt then you actually think violence is a good cause lol

Genocide is the central defining feature of nazism. Why should anyone care about the opinions of nazis or what they find offensive?

We have amendments for a reason

No amendment requires anyone to give a shit what nazis’ opinions are, or what offends them.

Paradox of tolerance, fuck nazis

1st amendment

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All the American 1st amendment does is protect you from retaliation from the government if you bad mouth them. You start with that fascist shit and someone decides to introduce you to consequences, well have fun.

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He is being very polite in telling you that you do not have a solid grasp of the constitution or any of its amendments, let alone the first. You a big fan of the establishment clause, too? Just curious.

The first amendment means that you can say whatever you want (with a few exceptions) and the government can not censor you. It means that you can call the president an ass clown or say that MTG looks like an inbred troglodyte and you won’t end up fined or in jail. It does NOT mean that you are free from the sociatial consequences of your actions. It does NOT mean that Twitter/Facebook/Insta/Reddit/Etc… have to let you say what you want. It does NOT mean you can’t get kicked out of a resteraunt for wearing a swastika. It does NOT mean you won’t get jacked in the face for being a nazi (though it’s still assault and you can sue on those grounds, but you wouldn’t be able to sue them for infringing on your 1st amendment right).

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FUCK Nazis

I was banned from Reddit for saying I enjoyed the parts of red dead redemption 2 where you had to kill slave owners and kkk members. Literally said I enjoyed a mainstream video game and the main quest. Inciting violence against polygons in an imaginary world that took place 150 years ago.

Imagine saying you enjoyed playing Wolfenstein.

14 year account. RIP.

I think reddit ostensibly banned /r/ChapoTrapHouse because the mods weren’t banning people who said slave owners should be killed.

Reddit also banned me for saying nazis deserve to be punched. A comment I made under a post similar to this. Appearantly making such posts is fine, but commenting the same shit is unforgivable.

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Wolfenstein: new order is pretty sus.

In the game there’s actually a Jewish Cabal conspiring against the third riche, which would make the Nazis…right?

Great game tho 7.8/10

And that kind of shit is exactly the reason why there’s still a denazified German version. Killing Nazis isn’t the issue, putting them in a metaphysical context, derealising them, etc, is what’s the problem. You don’t want kids one day to think of Nazis as fictional characters.

Yeah, I’m not sure what’s up over there where it suddenly became not ok to punch Nazis.

It used to be even mainstream media encouraged punching Nazis. Don’t watch an old Blues Brothers movie if punching Nazis offends you too I guess.

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One can be conservative and not be a Nazi though. It’s weird how there is this vibe that you’re supposed to pick a side then vehemently defend the far extremes of what other with that political bent want to do. You have otherwise regular people saying it’s not okay to punch Nazis for example. Mainstream social media sucks.

The issue is that the mainline GOP doesn’t want to weed the Nazis in their midst, because elections are too close to afford the loss of their votes and the sympathizer votes.

I also enjoy killing the klan in Mafia 3

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I got booted for saying we should kill them, in relation to a repeat offender pdf file.

Literally the next comment in the thread was saying it should be legal.

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