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He has some similarities to the libertarian morons
Right, don’t kill me for asking, but what’s wrong with libertarianism? Or who are the libertarian morons? Honest question.
Libertarianism upholds whatever the current power structure is and offers no redress for those with less power. Free market libertarianism is just unchecked capitalism.
Selfish idiots who want to earn all advantages of society but don’t want to contribute anything. (Like Musk, who was a subsidy queen for years, but has suddenly discovered his love for a minimal state, or David Sacks, also a big fan of libertarianism, except when in dire need for a bailout from Silicon Valley Bank)
Ah so right wing liberals?
It’s supposed to be about individualism and individual freedom above all else, which is on par with the selfishness imo. Though many are conservatives that use the term to larp as apolitical.
I consider myself liberal and it’s not about my own freedoms (though I guess I’d like that too) but those of others. Believing others have a right to be non-binary as an easy example, or believe whatever they choose. I don’t believe corporations in particular have a right to authority over the individual. Isn’t that considered liberal?
Libertarians don’t believe (or want) those kinds of rights, they mostly just want to be free to be assholes, and to not pay taxes.
The liberty of libertarians is NOT just a more radical version of the liberty of liberals.
Have a look at the reading list for right libertarians at “The Political Compass” https://www.politicalcompass.org/libRightBooks and you will be be to come to your own view. You might want to take the Political Compass test.
I found this article on what happened when a town became a Libertarian experiment interesting - https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-into-bear-book-review-free-town-project
I took the compass test recently and it came pretty far left far libertarian. I’m just trying to figure out what that means which is partly why I’m asking the question. I don’t dislike government run well and for the people. I don’t dislike taxes at all and want them spent on the public (esp tax the rich), and I like people following the rules (when they are fair) and to being kind to eachother. But I think people should be free to do what they want if it doesn’t impose on others’ freedoms. I’m just trying to figure out my own political views and philosophies more deeply at the moment.
Have a look some of material on the reading list on Politician Compass for left libertarian it may help you.
When people talk about libertarians they are almost always talking about right wing (Ayn Rand) libertarians. They get attention because they are having direct impact on our current politics.
That’s great thank you.
I feel I always have to remind people that “libertarians” don’t have to be huge deregulators. A real libertarian is staunchly anti monopoly and DESIRES government intervention when there are issues with public goods (like pollution, competition, or safety) issues involved.
The right wing libertarians coopted the party sadly
I think he just is one
congrats elon on coming out 🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈
Latin is hate speech :((((
Damn cisgenders, cissing around this damn thread. One tried to cis me out of my gender.
It’s okay for me to call myself cisgender, because I’ve reclaimed the slur <s>
He never claimed to be an absolutist. He never planned in allowing things like vioent threats, for example.
And he’s right about those terms - they are used as slurs to shut down discussion. It’s a quick and easy way to belittle someone and trivialize their argument.
No.
Anyway, how do I report a comment?
blue check is a slur 😤
Here he is making that exact claim in 2022 before deleting it once it became inconvenient
The only people who think cis is a slur are the ones who use trans as a slur.
They think any descriptor but “normal” is a slur because anyone who isn’t cis, hetero, and white is seen as lesser by them.
I take pride in Elon Musk thinking my existence is a slur.
Big words coming from the wing nut who fucked over his “platform”.
This dude is a real fuckin tool.
Elon is a fuck nugget.
sweet, now I have a slur for my dad when he calls me a faggot
I would be very interested in a plot graph mapping out the number of instances of transphobic rhetoric coming from Elon from before and after Grimes left him for Chelsea Manning.
Or his trans daughter changing her last name and basically telling him to go to hell.
IIRC he actually did twat some vaguely transphobic things soon after that.
It’s fair to consider them as slurs. If my memory serves me correctly, they are almost always used with a negative connotation or in a context describing “cis-people” as doing something bad. Elon is merely stating the obvious.
May as well call white a slur because, if my memory serves me correctly, people who aren’t white almost always use it with a negative connotation describing “white-people” as doing something bad.
/s
your memory does not serve you correctly. Cis is a descriptor, it just means someone whose body and gender identity match. that’s like saying straight is a slur.
Agreed, but if Elon wants free speech he should allow the use of those slurs. Not that I think that wouldnt be chaotic, but Elon is being hypocritical here
Idk, in relevant situations I have no problem calling myself cis. Just because a very small number of people are broadly hostile towards cis people doesn’t make the word a slur. Cissy perhaps, but I still say meh to that because I just can’t be bothered to be offended by it.
Interesting, I’ve only ever seen it mean “not trans”
Agreed. I’ve no idea what u/[email protected] is talking about. I’m pretty sure I’ve personally never seen it used as a slur. What I’ve seen is people not knowing what it means and assuming it’s one of them there evil genders, so maybe some people think it’s meant as a slur, but imo that says more about their ignorance than the word itself.
I don’t know what these words actually mean and I don’t like them.
The Latin prefix cis- , meaning “on this side of”, which is the opposite of the prefix trans- . So a cisgender person is someone whose gender identity matches the sex assigned to them at birth - I.e. someone who is not transgender.
They’re value neutral words and are useful words to have. For example, if I wanted to make the point that not everyone who cares about trans rights or gender issues are transgender, I could point to myself, as a cisgender woman.
Highly recommend checking the full article too, it’s fantastic!
https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/huge-news-for-gamers-elon-musk-has-invented-a-new-slur/
Oh my god that’s amazing thank you
We need to come up with a slur for billionaires…
I just call them oligarchs, which already has a negative connotation
And also is completely accurate. Mainstream media, mainstream politicians and others who are members of the big club want you to think that only Eastern Europe and parts of Asia (not the parts they have lucrative business with) are mostly controlled by a few rich people.
The reality is that the US has more than a third of the world’s billionaires in spite of having only 5% of the population and those billionaires and the rest of the. 1% ABSOLUTELY are oligarchs that control the country much more than any elected officials.
Parasites?
Billionaire is already a slur.
No one makes that much money without screwing over and abusing other people. There are no ethical billionaires.
“rich fuckface”