Don’t think so, also not sure how Mastodon feeds work with Lemmy as they aren’t really upvoted/downvoted on. Though the opposite works where you can follow communities/accounts from Mastodon.
Pretty different experience, but if you prefer it that way you can. You can actually follow specific communities from Mastodon, but it’s not nearly as good of an experience. I just install both apps and have separate accounts for both.
For me mastadon didn’t ‘stick’ but I was never a big twitter user. So I failed to jump from from the big social networks to mastadon because the experience was weird. I guess you can follow lemmy communties but I had no idea how to find them and it mostly looked like following other people like on twitter.
Whereas the UI and everything on lemmy is much more like what Im used to it (reddit) - so it ‘stuck’ for me.
I still have the mastadon account collecting dust and might go back over there now that I understand more, but as I prefer to follow subjects over people I dont feel like Im missing out
Posting to lemmy through mastodon is a thing (hello there!), but yeah, I don’t think you can follow a mastodon account through lemmy unfortunately.
EDIT: I lied! Found the server admin I think at this link: https://lemmy.ml/u/[email protected] but I think they need to specifically post to a lemmy server in order to have posts show.
Good, other governments should be doing this. (But even if they use threads instead, mastodon users’ll see their updates anyway if mastodon feds with it)
Threads might, but it’s more what instances will federate with threads - I think government and news organisations would do well to federate for better reach - that way any announcements they send out can have the largest reach possible. However major and minor mastodon user instances should probably not do so in order to prevent issues with takeover and EEE
“Government” is a pretty broad term. It encompasses both elected or ruling leaders that implement policy (politics), as well as the administrative beaurocracy that implements whatever policy is enacted day to day. It’s pretty typical for the beaurocracy to continue functioning under whatever mandate they have and even to make their own descisions if the mandate gives them that latitude, even if the leadership part of the government is being changed or otherwise non-functional.
I think you misunderstood the purpose of this. This is not for citizens to join it’s an instance for government officials and offices. This is very good practice to prove a account is the official account.
But honestly I have more trust in my government to not exploit on me then I have in meta/Twitter.
I would think that, more than anything else, the issue would be more getting it through all the bureaucratic red tape. See the ESB debacle:
Weaver had been brought to Raytheon, the company the Air Force had hired to write the software for the next generation GPS satellites, because the Raytheon team was behind schedule and over budget. This issue of data transmission to the ground stations and back again was one of a few problems that was holding them back. There is an industry standard way of doing this, a simple, reliable protocol that is built into almost every operating system in the world.
But this team wasn’t using this simple protocol on its own. Instead, the team had written a piece of software to receive the message from that protocol, read the data, and then recode it into a different format, so they could feed it into a very complex piece of software called an Enterprise Service Bus, or ESB. The ESB eventually delivered the data to yet another piece of software, at which point the whole process ran in reverse order to deliver it back to the original, simple protocol. Because the data was taking such a roundabout route, it wasn’t arriving quickly enough for the ground stations to make the calculations needed. Using the simple protocol alone would have made the entire job a snap—as easy as nailing a couple of boards together. Instead, they had this massive Rube Goldberg contraption that was never going to work.
The people on this project knew quite well that using this ESB was a terrible idea. They’d have been relieved to just throw it out, plug in the simple protocol, and move on. But they couldn’t. It was a requirement in their contract. The contracting officers had required it because a policy document called the Air Force Enterprise Architecture had required it. The Air Force Enterprise Architecture required it because the Department of Defense Enterprise Architecture required it. And the DoD Enterprise Architecture required it because the Federal Enterprise Architecture, written by the Chief Information Officers Council, convened by the White House at the request of Congress, had required it.
I’m sure some of the fine folks at 18F would love to help various US agencies or state governments with migrating to Mastodon. I’m not so sure any of them would be able to convince geriatric politicians to do so.
This actually makes a lot of sense and I am surprised that there isn’t a lot of government already doing it. That and celebrities. It’s basically instant verification.
This is really fascinating to me. It would be interesting to see each country set up their own Mastodon/Lemmy/Kbin/other federated systems and have those instances constantly talk to each other. Like others have commented, It seems like a great way to keep the communication style and interaction of twitter/facebook, while also protecting the validity of the information through private instances. Really smart decision.
I’d be interested to see other organisations get involved too. For instance, instead of every news website having their own comments section, why not set up a Lemmy instance? They could post links to their articles and users can comment with their Fediverse account, posting could be limited to users from that server, and sign-up could be restricted to people who work there.
There are a lot of ways they could handle it. Imagine the New York Times or similar organizations with their own customized Mastodon for live updates and Lemmy for linking to articles and for searching. Mastodon being the free to follow and the Lemmy/main site being subscription to make an account and comment.
Wow, I never thought about this, but this is probably pretty good to have right? Might be a good way to find info about something if their sites are really confusing etc possibly
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Can I follow that from Lemmy?
Don’t think so, also not sure how Mastodon feeds work with Lemmy as they aren’t really upvoted/downvoted on. Though the opposite works where you can follow communities/accounts from Mastodon.
Does that mean having a Mastodon account is better than having a lemmy account. (Cause one can follow the other but not the other way around…)
Pretty different experience, but if you prefer it that way you can. You can actually follow specific communities from Mastodon, but it’s not nearly as good of an experience. I just install both apps and have separate accounts for both.
For me mastadon didn’t ‘stick’ but I was never a big twitter user. So I failed to jump from from the big social networks to mastadon because the experience was weird. I guess you can follow lemmy communties but I had no idea how to find them and it mostly looked like following other people like on twitter.
Whereas the UI and everything on lemmy is much more like what Im used to it (reddit) - so it ‘stuck’ for me.
I still have the mastadon account collecting dust and might go back over there now that I understand more, but as I prefer to follow subjects over people I dont feel like Im missing out
I saw someone post on Lemmy using their mastodon account
Posting to lemmy through mastodon is a thing (hello there!), but yeah, I don’t think you can follow a mastodon account through lemmy unfortunately.
EDIT: I lied! Found the server admin I think at this link: https://lemmy.ml/u/[email protected] but I think they need to specifically post to a lemmy server in order to have posts show.
Good, other governments should be doing this. (But even if they use threads instead, mastodon users’ll see their updates anyway if mastodon feds with it)
threads will never federate.
You think it was just a fake promise? I haven’t thought about it, but it’s certainly possible.
I think it was posturing to the countries that banned Twitter.
look, you get your own Threads in Iran.
Fun fact: both facebook.com and twitter.com have a Tor site to make it harder to censor them.
Threads might, but it’s more what instances will federate with threads - I think government and news organisations would do well to federate for better reach - that way any announcements they send out can have the largest reach possible. However major and minor mastodon user instances should probably not do so in order to prevent issues with takeover and EEE
!remindme 1 year
wait i thought they don’t have a government at the moment
“Government” is a pretty broad term. It encompasses both elected or ruling leaders that implement policy (politics), as well as the administrative beaurocracy that implements whatever policy is enacted day to day. It’s pretty typical for the beaurocracy to continue functioning under whatever mandate they have and even to make their own descisions if the mandate gives them that latitude, even if the leadership part of the government is being changed or otherwise non-functional.
Understand. I was simply joking.
Sounds even more 1984 to me than Twitter or Meta as hoster.
I think you misunderstood the purpose of this. This is not for citizens to join it’s an instance for government officials and offices. This is very good practice to prove a account is the official account.
But honestly I have more trust in my government to not exploit on me then I have in meta/Twitter.
Possible. I’d rather call it sceptical.
Excellent use case.
I tried to start a Mastodon account, but I got the error message “Validation failed: time zone not included in list”
Soo… you’re located on Mars?
Not many governments would have enough tech-savy people to even think of opening a Mastadon instance. Kudos NL and Germany!
a lot of government has one, they’re just not paid enough
I would think that, more than anything else, the issue would be more getting it through all the bureaucratic red tape. See the ESB debacle:
I’m sure some of the fine folks at 18F would love to help various US agencies or state governments with migrating to Mastodon. I’m not so sure any of them would be able to convince geriatric politicians to do so.
This actually makes a lot of sense and I am surprised that there isn’t a lot of government already doing it. That and celebrities. It’s basically instant verification.
Damn a government that actually do something in terms of digitilization.
Cries in German …
It’s weird that you use Germany as an example when Germany has been on Mastodon since 2020 at https://social.bund.de!
Wait that is also government based?
TIL that I am a proud German citizen. Our government is leading the digital transition in Europe. 🇩🇪
This is really fascinating to me. It would be interesting to see each country set up their own Mastodon/Lemmy/Kbin/other federated systems and have those instances constantly talk to each other. Like others have commented, It seems like a great way to keep the communication style and interaction of twitter/facebook, while also protecting the validity of the information through private instances. Really smart decision.
I’d be interested to see other organisations get involved too. For instance, instead of every news website having their own comments section, why not set up a Lemmy instance? They could post links to their articles and users can comment with their Fediverse account, posting could be limited to users from that server, and sign-up could be restricted to people who work there.
There are a lot of ways they could handle it. Imagine the New York Times or similar organizations with their own customized Mastodon for live updates and Lemmy for linking to articles and for searching. Mastodon being the free to follow and the Lemmy/main site being subscription to make an account and comment.
Beautiful.
Governments should embrace open source infrastructure and empower it against corporate high-tech.
Wow, I never thought about this, but this is probably pretty good to have right? Might be a good way to find info about something if their sites are really confusing etc possibly
That’s a good point. But I think the fediverse needs less friction for this to benefit more of the general public.
Like any new technology, I think it will take a while for the experience to get smoothed out
That is pretty cool
nice approach :)
I hope that other governments follow suit.