Edit: Shit, I probably should have made the title plural - “Does Lemmy need charters?”
From the great discussion below, some clarifying thoughts:
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Looooong time r/all lurker here, something like 10+ years on reddit with maybe 10 comments. I’ve seen a lot go down.
I’m seeing a lot of hand wringing around defederating Meta, Threads, and even handling problematic instances within the Lemmyverse itself.
It’s tiring to see these things come into consideration on a case by case basis, completely decontextualized from earlier crises. And the patterns are all too familiar - the big ones lately have been around (to name a few things):
This definitely isn’t a new idea, but at in these early days of the Lemmyverse, we can take our collective past experiences, good and bad, on other social media networks, and define some sort of Lemmy charter that sets standards for ethos and quality control. I’ll start:
- Don’t federate with for-profit or commercial institutions
- TBD
Because we’re done with the for-profit, commercial web, right? In the last couple of days, my brain has taken all the all the Lemmy posts and comments on the subject, mashed it all up, distilled it, and keeps coming back to this idea of non-profit/non-commercial entities.
Because loose, institutional underpinnings could, like a mycelial network, feed the Lemmyverse. And mycelial networks are dope.
Here’s a proposed methodology:
*We’d have to think about what that initial “Core” means - maybe the first X instances to have reached Y number of users? Beyond bragging rights that They Were There when the charter was created, no other special status would be conferred.
And because I’m an anarcho-syndicalist:
And because I have ADHD, and this is currently over-stimulating my brain:
Alright, ADHD has run its course. Back to lurking for another 10 years.
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What about a company that makes a bunch of products, and sets up a Lemmy instance with a community for each. The company pays attention to problems customers have and use their instance to improve the products. It’s a corporate Lemmy instance, but I don’t think you should defederate from it.
That already happened. For example, we have mozilla [email protected]edit: I think it’s a mistake to throw mozilla into in the same bag with the other corpos. The whole truth is a bit more complicated than
makes money = bad
. In this case I’m happy to take the LWhy not defederate? How much friction is there in making a new account on their instance to:
Good question, something for folks writing the charter (whoever they might be) to take into consideration, and hash out.
Off the top of my head, there are types of for-profit orgs, like B Corps, that could be included. There are non-profit orgs, like religious institutions, that could be excluded.
(Edit: point is that it’s something for more and better minds to sort out, and adjust over time)
I’ll gladly defederate from that.