I really do feel that stuff like this pointlessly fragments the Fediverse. The magic is that Kbin and Lemmy can interact with no strings attached, doesn’t it make more sense to just have a shared pool of communities irregardless of where they were created? Lemmy and Kbin posts just feed into eachother, I’ve used both platforms. I think it’s pretty beautiful, as someone who’s mostly grown up with the centralized, proprietary web.
I also wish that there was a platform agnostic term for communities, it’d make things a lot easier if they shared a terminology instead of making things more confusing. Though maybe I’m the only one who cares about that.
The terminology of Kbin is one of my biggest gripes with it so you have at least one ally.
Magazines are just communities, I don’t think there is any different behaviour under the hood to justify the name change. On the flip side I just find it makes things more confusing because now you have to start calling single picture meme posts and open questions on an AskLemmy type place “Articles”.
if could make sense, but some people just want to look for mags on specifically on kbin, others specifically on lemmy, some people turn off federation, and anyway the communities for searching for mags are already distinct and i cant change that. and it is shared anyway, so why does it matter if there’s a mag that is a bit more specific? also, im trying to combat the fragmentation by asking to partner up. the agnostic term would be communities, but since im from kbin im used to saying mags
I know we are federated obviously, but when i read the bio of this community saying “communities all over lemmy”, i think i can only share and talk about lemmy based communities (which i cannot make bc i am from kbin, so i cant promote my lemmy community because i literally dont have one), as the posts also make clear. thats why i made a site specific one. in the end it doesnt matter, lemmy and kbin users can join both and discover from both. i just wanted a place for people on kbin to promote their kbin communities
I’m inclined to agree with this TBH. Happy to hear any counter from the kbin side also.
But at some point, duplicating communities/magazines isn’t necessary and best left for whenever it does become necessary (eg, a cultural fork over admin/moderation/culture differences). At this point, apart from the name difference (community v magazine), which is trivial, I don’t see any difference for these to be different. This is especially so until both platforms get “multi-communities/magazines”.
I’ve been thinking that such a thing could be generally useful across the communities/magazines.
Even in the case of posting in a way more useful for people on mastodon/mblogs. I know kbin relies on the hashtag to make that easier (let me know if I’m wrong, I’m not too familiar with how best to use kbin), but not everyone uses hashtags well over on mastodon and many probably rely just on follows. And as following a community/magazine can lead to a firehose on mastodon, I don’t think that works well either.
Ideally, a mastodon user would be able to follow a community and only get top-level posts in their feed. One way to solve this would be to have a bot on a mastodon instance that, when triggered, boosts just the top level post. Then mastodon users can follow just the bot and get a cleaner feed.
The only issue then is that mastodon doesn’t do backfilling, so the only comments you’d be able to see under the top-level post would be those that have come through the federation. For that to happen, someone on each instance would have to be following the full community.
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I really do feel that stuff like this pointlessly fragments the Fediverse. The magic is that Kbin and Lemmy can interact with no strings attached, doesn’t it make more sense to just have a shared pool of communities irregardless of where they were created? Lemmy and Kbin posts just feed into eachother, I’ve used both platforms. I think it’s pretty beautiful, as someone who’s mostly grown up with the centralized, proprietary web.
I also wish that there was a platform agnostic term for communities, it’d make things a lot easier if they shared a terminology instead of making things more confusing. Though maybe I’m the only one who cares about that.
The terminology of Kbin is one of my biggest gripes with it so you have at least one ally.
Magazines are just communities, I don’t think there is any different behaviour under the hood to justify the name change. On the flip side I just find it makes things more confusing because now you have to start calling single picture meme posts and open questions on an AskLemmy type place “Articles”.
if could make sense, but some people just want to look for mags on specifically on kbin, others specifically on lemmy, some people turn off federation, and anyway the communities for searching for mags are already distinct and i cant change that. and it is shared anyway, so why does it matter if there’s a mag that is a bit more specific? also, im trying to combat the fragmentation by asking to partner up. the agnostic term would be communities, but since im from kbin im used to saying mags
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Why do we need to have “one for kbin”? Just subscribe here. kbin is part of the fediverse, it’s included here.
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I know we are federated obviously, but when i read the bio of this community saying “communities all over lemmy”, i think i can only share and talk about lemmy based communities (which i cannot make bc i am from kbin, so i cant promote my lemmy community because i literally dont have one), as the posts also make clear. thats why i made a site specific one. in the end it doesnt matter, lemmy and kbin users can join both and discover from both. i just wanted a place for people on kbin to promote their kbin communities
Squint your eyes and pretend it says “Communities all of the Fediverse”. All problems fixed.
I’m inclined to agree with this TBH. Happy to hear any counter from the kbin side also.
But at some point, duplicating communities/magazines isn’t necessary and best left for whenever it does become necessary (eg, a cultural fork over admin/moderation/culture differences). At this point, apart from the name difference (community v magazine), which is trivial, I don’t see any difference for these to be different. This is especially so until both platforms get “multi-communities/magazines”.
I know you’re writing to lemmy, but as a kbin user, thanks! Subscribed.
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So … like a bot that automatically cross posts?
I’ve been thinking that such a thing could be generally useful across the communities/magazines.
Even in the case of posting in a way more useful for people on mastodon/mblogs. I know kbin relies on the hashtag to make that easier (let me know if I’m wrong, I’m not too familiar with how best to use kbin), but not everyone uses hashtags well over on mastodon and many probably rely just on follows. And as following a community/magazine can lead to a firehose on mastodon, I don’t think that works well either.
Ideally, a mastodon user would be able to follow a community and only get top-level posts in their feed. One way to solve this would be to have a bot on a mastodon instance that, when triggered, boosts just the top level post. Then mastodon users can follow just the bot and get a cleaner feed.
The only issue then is that mastodon doesn’t do backfilling, so the only comments you’d be able to see under the top-level post would be those that have come through the federation. For that to happen, someone on each instance would have to be following the full community.