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Vapes = bad for lungs, cigs = plant therefore it’s healthy.
If you smoke one or two cigarettes a day, it’s not too terrible.
The probem came from people smoking a pack a day or more, and yes, it’s the kind of habit that tends to grow.
When big tobacco made the stuff plentiful enough that people could support pack-a-day (or even case-a-day) habits, the money was just too good not to defend by surpressing science.
As the fossil fuel revelations have shown, billionaires get desperat for money, and can’t imagine deciding they have enough or sharing substantial portions of their wealth to change the world for the better.
https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/14/5/315
In both sexes, smoking 1–4 cigarettes per day was associated with a significantly higher risk of dying from ischaemic heart disease and from all causes, and from lung cancer in women. .
https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/smoking-and-cancer/how-does-smoking-cause-cancer#:~:text=and other diseases.-,Reducing the number of cigarettes you smoke a day is,never too late to stop.
Reducing the number of cigarettes you smoke a day is a good first step. But, there is no safe level of smoking. The best thing you can do for your health is to stop smoking completely
Well there’s really no safe level of anything. Literally everything you do increases your odds of dying. It’s all about proportion. Breathing doesn’t increase your odds of dying very much.
The conversation around nicotine is severely lacking in comparisons of scale. It’s all like “IF YOU SMOKE LITERALLY ONE CIGARETTE YOU WILL DIE OF HORRIBLE CANCER” which is a ridiculous thing to be putting out there. I get the intent, it’s because cigarettes are addictive and smoking one usually leads to smoking more, but it really makes it difficult to get a sense of how harmful cigarettes actually are at lower dosages.
That first study you linked was a good one in this regard, but the summary still couldn’t help but tend towards “you smoke at all, you will die”. A graph would be helpful.
Actually, I’ll just make one.
Cigs are extremely useful for chron’s and other such issues. Not healthy, but you have to understand there is a trade off for quality of life for some people. I could stop smoking, but I’m pretty sure I’d end up spending the extra 20 years I’d be alive as extra time on the toilet 🤷♀️
I stand with big tobacco o7
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrocnide_moroides
Post one that really sucks at least. Btw, can you tell me how I can format a link into text like you just did?
I want people to keep smoking because too many old people put a significant strain on the economy.
/s in case anyone needs it
Might actually be the case, some studies have suggested that smokers are much less expensive to society than nonsmokers because they die like 20 years younger
Well those people are idiots with no idea about the immense expense of smoking-related diseases much more than making up for any savings society might get from decreased longevity.
It’s not about society saving money, it’s about the greed of big tobacco and the politicians they own.
“Smoking-related diseases” are just cancer and heart disease, mostly.
I mean, kind of? Nicotine is literally a natural pesticide, it’s actually quite destructive towards everything it touches. Smoking causes dental issues, which cause far more disease than you’d expect. Also being unable to run up a flight of stairs without dying a little bit probably makes it worse.
That is absolutely not true lol
It’s not even harmful at the levels present in cigarettes.
It’s all the OTHER stuff in cigarettes that kills you.
Apart from the fact that you just mentioned the two top non-acute causes of death, that’s not even close to true.
I’m saying it’s not like some weird esoteric thing that we don’t see anywhere else in the medical industry. Heart disease from smoking isn’t more expensive to treat than heart disease without smoking.
Smoking is the number one cause of preventable death bar none, and it causes a shitload of nonfatal diseases and complications too, all in all making it EXTREMELY expensive for any society to deal with on a large scale.
Die 20 years younger? Fuck, I should try smoking.
Can we ban the “hahaha I want to die” teenager edginess? It wasn’t funny in the middle ages, it’s not funny now.
Ban me yourself, coward.
no it doesn’t
Well one is a plant and one is chemicals. Educate yourself sweaty.
yeah
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrocnide_moroides
Post one that really sucks at least. Btw, can you tell me how I can format a link into text like you just did?
[text](https://example.com)
also that’s an interesting plant, thanks :3
It shows a 404 message. Probably because I use kbin. I’ll find out one day. Thanks for your efforts and you’re welcome.
You might be experiencing some type of markdown error because they cancelled the formatting for illustration purposes, here’s a screenshot of their comment
you put text in brackets, and then you put the link in parentheses
i quit and i’m not going to start again cuz quitting was really hard, but smoking is fucking amazing if it weren’t for the side effects.
that’s just reality.
i’m still not sure quitting is going to be a net gain in years and quality of life with how much smoking helped regulate my mental health.
I started smoking as a teenager because I thought it would make me look cool and get girls.
And I was totally right.
I’m still a smoker, but I’m gonna be real. I don’t think my lungs are the issue at this point, pretty sure the other drugs I take are gonna kill my liver before lung cancer is a concern 💀