I just got my home server up and running and was wondering what you guys recommend for backups. I figure it will probably be worth having backups on cloud servers tjay are external, are there any good services yall use for that?
I use OneDrive. Buy the Costco subscription and get like 15 months for around 110 CAD. GIVES 6 TB. I create some fake accountsink the sharing to my main account. I have an encrypted rxlone share for some things and others I GPG encryot the tar before sending it up. Been working fine for a couple years and I have multiple TB backed up.
I used to have everything backed up to a 2TB USB drive. Which I accidentally dropped down the stairs. I lost thousands of family photos and documents. That changed my backup perspective.
I now have a Synology NAS, with 12TB in a RAID5 array (for a bit of disk redundancy). All my home devices, Proxmox servers etc back up here. The NAS also holds a few TB of media. Attached to it I have a USB hard drive (also 12TB). The NAS gets fully backed up to the USB drive nightly.
I also have a remote Raspberry Pi with a smaller USB drive (4TB) attached to it at my brother’s house (in another country), where I backup most of the contents of my home NAS. I don’t back up the media, just the important stuff. I might have to upgrade to a larger drive…
I used to have everything backed up to a 2TB USB drive. Which I accidentally dropped down the stairs. I lost thousands of family photos and documents. That changed my backup perspective.
If it’s the only copy, it’s not a backup. It’s the master.
I had never heard of rsync.net until now. I like the idea but it seems more expensive than B2. $15/TB vs $5/TB. Am I doing the math wrong or reading it wrong?
I don’t see it on their website right now, but they offer a discount if you’re using something like restic/borg and only need scp/sftp access.
Their support is also super friendly. I’ve had an account forever and got moved to the 100+ TB pricing even though I have < 50TB stored. YMMV but it doesn’t hurt to ask if they have any additional discounts.
Also keep in mind that B2 charges for bandwidth too. It’s $5/TB for storage, but $10/TB to download that same data.
I have an unraid server which hosts an docker image of Duplicacy. It is paid though for the web interface. And it backs up to Backblaze B2. I have roughly 175GB backed up, for which I pay $0.87 a month.
Do you have other clients backing up to your unraid? I’m looking for a complete solution to backing up end user workstations (windows, Mac and Linux) to my unraid server then backing up my unraid server to something like wasabi, Amazon, backblaze, etc. Preferably a single solution.
I second restic. Have been using it for a year now and have been generally very happy. Actually had to use it in a couple occasions to restore directory content and even recover a complete workstation drive. I have had relatively easy success in both scenarios.
+1 for backblaze. I use docker for everything and mounted volumes directly in the folder alongside a docker compose file. So I just tar my services directory with everything in it, and pipe it to rclone which connects to backblaze and has a “cat” feature so you can pipe data directly to the destination.
I have been with idrive since 2009. At the time they were the only ones that allowed backups of network attached storage on their cheaper personal plans. Everyone else saw that as an “enterprise” feature which required a business plan. Which was bullsh*t, because lots of home NAS devices were being sold.
Anyway, I haven’t done a recent comparison of services, but I remain happy with idrive.
Thesedays I no longer backup on a computer with a mapped drive, but directly from my NAS which runs the idrive software.
I had a catastrophic dual drive failure a few years ago, one failed and another failed during the raid rebuild! I was able to restore about 1tb of data and didn’t lose anything important.
They also offer backup and restore by shipping a drive to you if you want to avoid the huge initial backup or a total restore, but I haven’t used that feature.
They do also have a mobile app, but last time I tried it, it wasn’t great.
rsync.net and learn to use Borg; they’re stupid cheap if you’re technically proficient enough to handle the Borg setup yourself. Like, charge by the gigabyte, but it’s 1.5¢/GB at the most expensive, and cheaper in bulk
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I use restic to backup my raspberry Pi’s to my Synology NAS and backup my NAS to backblaze.
I use OneDrive. Buy the Costco subscription and get like 15 months for around 110 CAD. GIVES 6 TB. I create some fake accountsink the sharing to my main account. I have an encrypted rxlone share for some things and others I GPG encryot the tar before sending it up. Been working fine for a couple years and I have multiple TB backed up.
I used to have everything backed up to a 2TB USB drive. Which I accidentally dropped down the stairs. I lost thousands of family photos and documents. That changed my backup perspective.
I now have a Synology NAS, with 12TB in a RAID5 array (for a bit of disk redundancy). All my home devices, Proxmox servers etc back up here. The NAS also holds a few TB of media. Attached to it I have a USB hard drive (also 12TB). The NAS gets fully backed up to the USB drive nightly.
I also have a remote Raspberry Pi with a smaller USB drive (4TB) attached to it at my brother’s house (in another country), where I backup most of the contents of my home NAS. I don’t back up the media, just the important stuff. I might have to upgrade to a larger drive…
If it’s the only copy, it’s not a backup. It’s the master.
Yup :) Learned my lesson the hard (lol) way.
I use SyncThing to backup our cell phones to my on-prem server, and then use BackBlaze Personal Backup for a cloud copy.
rsync.net is great if you need something simple and cheap. Backblaze B2 is also decent, but does have the typical download and API usage cost.
I had never heard of rsync.net until now. I like the idea but it seems more expensive than B2. $15/TB vs $5/TB. Am I doing the math wrong or reading it wrong?
When I researched what to use for my backup I found rsync.net. They have some nice features nobody else seems to support, like they support ZFS send/receive https://www.rsync.net/products/zfsintro.html
But in the end the price made me go with borgbase.com
I’ve never heard of it either, but I came to the same conclusion as you
I don’t see it on their website right now, but they offer a discount if you’re using something like restic/borg and only need scp/sftp access. Their support is also super friendly. I’ve had an account forever and got moved to the 100+ TB pricing even though I have < 50TB stored. YMMV but it doesn’t hurt to ask if they have any additional discounts.
Also keep in mind that B2 charges for bandwidth too. It’s $5/TB for storage, but $10/TB to download that same data.
I use rsync and backblaze b2.
I use it for version control and cost, about £2 for 750GB
I have an unraid server which hosts an docker image of Duplicacy. It is paid though for the web interface. And it backs up to Backblaze B2. I have roughly 175GB backed up, for which I pay $0.87 a month.
Do you have other clients backing up to your unraid? I’m looking for a complete solution to backing up end user workstations (windows, Mac and Linux) to my unraid server then backing up my unraid server to something like wasabi, Amazon, backblaze, etc. Preferably a single solution.
This is almost my exact backup workflow, with another location in between. Duplicacy is great, highly recommend.
Git Annex.
Took me a while to wrap my head around it, but nothing comes close to it once you set it up.
Edit: should have read the post more carefully, I use Git Annex both locally and on a VPS I rent from openbsd.amsterdam for off-site backups.
Restic or Kopia, both to Backblaze.
I’ve always found them pretty similar. How’d you chose one or another?
I know Restic before Kopia and made a set of systemd units to run Restic backups on my home server and office workstation (both online 24/7).
Kopia seems much nicer for a regular user, so I use it on my and family laptops. I used to use Duplicati there, but that project seems dead.
Thank you :)
I second restic. Have been using it for a year now and have been generally very happy. Actually had to use it in a couple occasions to restore directory content and even recover a complete workstation drive. I have had relatively easy success in both scenarios.
Restic and then rclone to backblaze? Or is there a way to restic directly to backblaze?
I do prefer having a local copy of my backups (and therefore i use rclone), but afaik restic does support b2 directly…
+1 for backblaze. I use docker for everything and mounted volumes directly in the folder alongside a docker compose file. So I just tar my services directory with everything in it, and pipe it to rclone which connects to backblaze and has a “cat” feature so you can pipe data directly to the destination.
I use wasabi s3, I back up to that using restic.
I have been with idrive since 2009. At the time they were the only ones that allowed backups of network attached storage on their cheaper personal plans. Everyone else saw that as an “enterprise” feature which required a business plan. Which was bullsh*t, because lots of home NAS devices were being sold.
Anyway, I haven’t done a recent comparison of services, but I remain happy with idrive.
Thesedays I no longer backup on a computer with a mapped drive, but directly from my NAS which runs the idrive software.
I had a catastrophic dual drive failure a few years ago, one failed and another failed during the raid rebuild! I was able to restore about 1tb of data and didn’t lose anything important.
They also offer backup and restore by shipping a drive to you if you want to avoid the huge initial backup or a total restore, but I haven’t used that feature.
They do also have a mobile app, but last time I tried it, it wasn’t great.
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see also this previous discussion:
https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/182362/What-are-your-backup-solutions
As dumb/simple/boring as this may be…? An external hard drive.
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…what? It doesn’t require you to be online 24/7, works at any™ PC, and the speed is really great – even on a potato.
Unless you work at NASA or at IBM or similars – then feel free to call me dum.
rsync.net and learn to use Borg; they’re stupid cheap if you’re technically proficient enough to handle the Borg setup yourself. Like, charge by the gigabyte, but it’s 1.5¢/GB at the most expensive, and cheaper in bulk