Come join us to talk about the new Bethesda game Starfield. There has been some angry people who set really high expectations for the game and now are mad the game didn’t meet their fake expectations.
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that’s madness. I can get the performance complaints and anger at Bethesda’s attitudes to them, but in terms of features, this isn’t NMS, despite the very similar premise.
Some of the things I’ve heard and seen said about the game show that way too many people had incredibly unrealistic expectations for a Bethesda game that from the onset was said to be “a classic Bethesda RPG, through and through” by the man himself. If you didn’t expect Skyrim/Fallout with a fresh new aesthetic, you either weren’t paying attention or have been on some really good drugs.
Gameplaywise nice, but from a tech standpoint a little underwhelming. No 32:9 support, HDR is mediocre and without calibration, no FOV settings, language cannot be properly changed,…
I like the concept. I actually actively avoid gaming forums as much as I can because they seem to all become one of two things: either completely overrun by people who hate the game and can’t shut up about it, even though they don’t play it anymore, or completely overrun by people who claim to hate the game and can’t shut up about how much they hate it, even though they have thousands of hours in it and play it like it’s a full time job.
Yup, I’ve started avoiding gaming forums, mostly stopped following news/rumors and hype trains and I’ve become “patient gamer”. As a result, I pay much less for games and enjoy more the ones I get.
Hell, I remember all the hype building up for Skyrim for years before its release. I made it a point then to ignore all the articles and reviews and Bethesda salesmanship, and I was in awe at the game on release. I remember people being angry about snow wasn’t sticking like Bethesda promised or some such nonsense.
Same thing with Starfield…I’ve ignored all press events and interviews and spoilers and anything that had to do with promises of features. Just started it tonight and I’m enjoying it. I’m not in awe yet, but it’s fun. I’m certainly not angry about anything, that’s for sure.
Ignoring the hype(eroblizing) is always the better option. People follow every little crumb of a rumor over years and build up a mythical, impossible standard in their head. Of course they’re disappointed. People online just get so toxic about the things they “love”. It’s sad to watch.
Personally, I don’t really bother with keeping up with things like upcoming releases, reviews, teasers and trailers.
Not only to avoid the hype but also because there have been a couple of occasions when watching a single review or trailer on YouTube led to me getting a recommended video of the game during the release week, and that video had a massive spoiler in its title.
I prefer to go into it completely blind. Maybe I just have incredibly low standards though. Some of my favourite games are those which were widely hated.
Although after spending 10+ years on Reddit (which I’ve since quit using). Even the dedicated game subs are full of bitching and constant arguments, and God help you if you’re a fan of MMORPG’s cause that sub seems to absolutely despise them.
I do the same for pretty much everything these days. Between news bites about every little thing about production, to trailers with way too much…everything, it feels like if one’s not careful, the entire thing will be known before it even comes out. That goes for games, movies, shows, etc. I find the experience much more enjoyable when I avoid those info dumps as much as possible.
And yeah, “fan” spaces online seem to inevitably become toxic pits of negativity if it’s not proactively negated. I’m sure an entire study could be done on it all, but my cursory conclusion is that it’s a result of 1) constantly focusing on one thing, and 2) finding the small flaws in that thing that become “bigger” by focusing on them for too long. People tend to let objectively small issues that are really only a small part taint their opinion of the whole.
(thank you for engaging my attempt at humor with patience, grace, and charitability 💜 I actually don’t have anything against starfield either, i just saw an opportunity to wisecrack and took it)
I haven’t picked it up yet so I’ll probably avoid this for now. But I have every confidence that I will enjoy Starfield, since I like Beth games. On that note, is the dialogue system in this game more like Skyrim or Fallout 4? Because that was really my biggest complaint with their last title.
Hmm I haven’t come across actual skill checks, sometimes you get certain dialogue options if you have certain skills, but the only check I’ve come across is the persuasion system, which admittedly is closer Oblivion. I do think that this dialogue system is one of their better ones tho.
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wtf ‘fake’ expectations? They were real expectations! What even is a fake expectation? Like, expectations from an AI???
Stuff like it would have real 100% online multiplayer, or infinite number of highly detailed planets.
OP probably meant unrealistic expectations.
I used up all of my unrealistic expectations on Star Citizen.
… who’s even saying that? It’s not like No Man’s Sky where that stuff actually was promised.
I think that’s exactly OPs point. There are people around who are complaining it doesn’t have features that were never mentioned or promised.
that’s madness. I can get the performance complaints and anger at Bethesda’s attitudes to them, but in terms of features, this isn’t NMS, despite the very similar premise.
I think people spend years following the development and hear every rumour and build it up way to much in their heads.
I haven’t got around to playing yet and I’ve avoided as much news as possible.
From what people are saying it sounds like Skyrim in space which is all good to me.
It’s definitely been feeling like skyrim in space to me and I love it.
Some of the things I’ve heard and seen said about the game show that way too many people had incredibly unrealistic expectations for a Bethesda game that from the onset was said to be “a classic Bethesda RPG, through and through” by the man himself. If you didn’t expect Skyrim/Fallout with a fresh new aesthetic, you either weren’t paying attention or have been on some really good drugs.
Hopium.
Gameplaywise nice, but from a tech standpoint a little underwhelming. No 32:9 support, HDR is mediocre and without calibration, no FOV settings, language cannot be properly changed,…
I like the concept. I actually actively avoid gaming forums as much as I can because they seem to all become one of two things: either completely overrun by people who hate the game and can’t shut up about it, even though they don’t play it anymore, or completely overrun by people who claim to hate the game and can’t shut up about how much they hate it, even though they have thousands of hours in it and play it like it’s a full time job.
Yup, I’ve started avoiding gaming forums, mostly stopped following news/rumors and hype trains and I’ve become “patient gamer”. As a result, I pay much less for games and enjoy more the ones I get.
Hell, I remember all the hype building up for Skyrim for years before its release. I made it a point then to ignore all the articles and reviews and Bethesda salesmanship, and I was in awe at the game on release. I remember people being angry about snow wasn’t sticking like Bethesda promised or some such nonsense.
Same thing with Starfield…I’ve ignored all press events and interviews and spoilers and anything that had to do with promises of features. Just started it tonight and I’m enjoying it. I’m not in awe yet, but it’s fun. I’m certainly not angry about anything, that’s for sure.
Ignoring the hype(eroblizing) is always the better option. People follow every little crumb of a rumor over years and build up a mythical, impossible standard in their head. Of course they’re disappointed. People online just get so toxic about the things they “love”. It’s sad to watch.
Personally, I don’t really bother with keeping up with things like upcoming releases, reviews, teasers and trailers.
Not only to avoid the hype but also because there have been a couple of occasions when watching a single review or trailer on YouTube led to me getting a recommended video of the game during the release week, and that video had a massive spoiler in its title.
I prefer to go into it completely blind. Maybe I just have incredibly low standards though. Some of my favourite games are those which were widely hated.
Although after spending 10+ years on Reddit (which I’ve since quit using). Even the dedicated game subs are full of bitching and constant arguments, and God help you if you’re a fan of MMORPG’s cause that sub seems to absolutely despise them.
I do the same for pretty much everything these days. Between news bites about every little thing about production, to trailers with way too much…everything, it feels like if one’s not careful, the entire thing will be known before it even comes out. That goes for games, movies, shows, etc. I find the experience much more enjoyable when I avoid those info dumps as much as possible.
And yeah, “fan” spaces online seem to inevitably become toxic pits of negativity if it’s not proactively negated. I’m sure an entire study could be done on it all, but my cursory conclusion is that it’s a result of 1) constantly focusing on one thing, and 2) finding the small flaws in that thing that become “bigger” by focusing on them for too long. People tend to let objectively small issues that are really only a small part taint their opinion of the whole.
I heard that Starfield was low sodium by default.
'cause it’s BLAND
HEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Look buddy you can shove this boost up that place
(it was a really good joke please don’t hate me)
(thank you for engaging my attempt at humor with patience, grace, and charitability 💜 I actually don’t have anything against starfield either, i just saw an opportunity to wisecrack and took it)
This has been 90% of my playthrough with starfield so far
I haven’t picked it up yet so I’ll probably avoid this for now. But I have every confidence that I will enjoy Starfield, since I like Beth games. On that note, is the dialogue system in this game more like Skyrim or Fallout 4? Because that was really my biggest complaint with their last title.
It’s more like Skyrim in my experience
I’d probably say that its even closer to fallout 3’s system.
Is that to say that there are skill checks in the dialogue options?
There are, the dialogue options are also far more consequential than Fall Out 4’s
Hmm I haven’t come across actual skill checks, sometimes you get certain dialogue options if you have certain skills, but the only check I’ve come across is the persuasion system, which admittedly is closer Oblivion. I do think that this dialogue system is one of their better ones tho.