I’m a fan of the users on Mastodon and they seem helpful overall, but the amount of meta discussion is a bit overwhelming. I think I’ll wait to be more active on Mastodon once the threads situation dies down.
@lockedcasket
Feels the same way on Lemmy concerning Reddit. I’m sure the chatter will die down once more people get accustomed to the new platforms. I just left Reddit myself after 10+ years but Lemmy and Mastodon and learning about the Fediverse has got me excited again! @NullDrive
I’m sure you know this, but for the benefit of folk who don’t: Mastodon is about building your own “algorithm” by simply following the sort of stuff that you’d want to see while scrolling. The important thing to remember is you can follow stuff not just people. Search for a hashtag, for example, and you can follow that as if it were a Twitter user. But to really get the most of it you can expand out and follow other ActivityPub things like Lemmy communities, Pixelfed users/albums, Peertube, etc.
To answer your question: I find following things on mastodon is better for consumption than commenting when it comes to Lemmy/Kbin posts. Commenting directly on the post is easy and you see all the primary replies, but finding replies of replies (and further down) gets tedious fast. But I still follow the Lemmy community for my city and a couple meme heavy ones via my Mastodon account.
I like the client-side interface and really appreciate the ability to follow users but Kbin seems to have some backend issues still. Remember that Kbin is at an extremely early stage of development and really wasn’t ready for mass adoption (it’s a couple of months old!)
I felt like that guy had some reasonable complaints. But in general complaining that you have to setup and configure web server like this… I don’t know. Yes, having a neat docker fast setup is convenient, but you do need a bit of skill at setting stuff up to run a server I think. So, perhaps if he doesn’t want to do some sysadmin work maybe a new beta level piece of software isn’t the best choice and did the right thing by no longer running an instance.
kbin is overall IMO fine, it has a learning curve and is a bit new. Currently most federation issues are resolved or resolvable. To be fair some of them were caused by issues with lemmy (since fixed, but not taken up by all instances) and (cough) a certain lemmy instance in particular blocking kbin in general. This kind of thing is going to make unavoidable federation issues. When I couldn’t connect to lemmy instances properly my messenger processes were restarting all the time. Now? Not “crashing” nearly as much. By crashing, it’s just that when a critical level error happens the process stops, and is reloaded right away. It doesn’t mean they stop and messages are no longer processed.
Having said that the backend and especially server admin panel need work, a lot of work. But, these things are being worked on all the time.
It seems that using kbin to engage with mastodon and lemmy works a lot better than using mastodon to engage with kbin and lemmy. Can’t speak for using Lemmy for kbin and mastodon.
Edit: on kbin to see microblog type posts from users I have subscribed to I need to go to subscribed (found in the dropdown menu between + and username) and then click the Microblog tab. (If I am already on the microblog tab and select subscribed it will take me over to threads, I need to click back over to microblog. I hope this changes.)
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I’m a fan of the users on Mastodon and they seem helpful overall, but the amount of meta discussion is a bit overwhelming. I think I’ll wait to be more active on Mastodon once the threads situation dies down.
@lockedcasket
Feels the same way on Lemmy concerning Reddit. I’m sure the chatter will die down once more people get accustomed to the new platforms. I just left Reddit myself after 10+ years but Lemmy and Mastodon and learning about the Fediverse has got me excited again!
@NullDrive
need tools to block this onslaught of talk of nothing but twitter and threads
I’m sure you know this, but for the benefit of folk who don’t: Mastodon is about building your own “algorithm” by simply following the sort of stuff that you’d want to see while scrolling. The important thing to remember is you can follow stuff not just people. Search for a hashtag, for example, and you can follow that as if it were a Twitter user. But to really get the most of it you can expand out and follow other ActivityPub things like Lemmy communities, Pixelfed users/albums, Peertube, etc.
To answer your question: I find following things on mastodon is better for consumption than commenting when it comes to Lemmy/Kbin posts. Commenting directly on the post is easy and you see all the primary replies, but finding replies of replies (and further down) gets tedious fast. But I still follow the Lemmy community for my city and a couple meme heavy ones via my Mastodon account.
Are you using this as a Lemmy user or Mastodon?
I’m currently using my Lemmy account but I have a mas.to account also. Sometimes I like them being seperate, sometimes not.
Kbin is both. idk how it is server side but the client is pretty great.
I like the client-side interface and really appreciate the ability to follow users but Kbin seems to have some backend issues still. Remember that Kbin is at an extremely early stage of development and really wasn’t ready for mass adoption (it’s a couple of months old!)
I felt like that guy had some reasonable complaints. But in general complaining that you have to setup and configure web server like this… I don’t know. Yes, having a neat docker fast setup is convenient, but you do need a bit of skill at setting stuff up to run a server I think. So, perhaps if he doesn’t want to do some sysadmin work maybe a new beta level piece of software isn’t the best choice and did the right thing by no longer running an instance.
kbin is overall IMO fine, it has a learning curve and is a bit new. Currently most federation issues are resolved or resolvable. To be fair some of them were caused by issues with lemmy (since fixed, but not taken up by all instances) and (cough) a certain lemmy instance in particular blocking kbin in general. This kind of thing is going to make unavoidable federation issues. When I couldn’t connect to lemmy instances properly my messenger processes were restarting all the time. Now? Not “crashing” nearly as much. By crashing, it’s just that when a critical level error happens the process stops, and is reloaded right away. It doesn’t mean they stop and messages are no longer processed.
Having said that the backend and especially server admin panel need work, a lot of work. But, these things are being worked on all the time.
Just my £0.016
Not sure how Kbin is I haven’t tried it
I think it’s a much nicer experience than Lemmy, here’s a link to your thread on kbin: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/147865/Using-Mastdon-to-engage-Lemmy
It seems that using kbin to engage with mastodon and lemmy works a lot better than using mastodon to engage with kbin and lemmy. Can’t speak for using Lemmy for kbin and mastodon.
Edit: on kbin to see microblog type posts from users I have subscribed to I need to go to subscribed (found in the dropdown menu between + and username) and then click the Microblog tab. (If I am already on the microblog tab and select subscribed it will take me over to threads, I need to click back over to microblog. I hope this changes.)