Shrödinger’s extinction

moral of the story: if you have an addiction, replace it with tomatoes

That actually makes a lot of sense, i’ll probably steal some of your points for future debates :)

oh it makes more sense with this definition instead of just “living beings”

If having a reaction to physical damage (like moving away) is enough to be qualified as pain, then some plants feel pain too. We studied in biology a plant that when cut/eaten by animals releases chemicals that warn plants around it and triggers them to release another chemical that interferes with animal’s digestive system and make them starve (I don’t remember the name of the plant unfortunately). So should we consider this as pain too ?

there are many other examples here too:wikipedia

man I hate philosophy

Bacterias are living creatures as well, yet I doubt most vegans have an issue with them

edit: I don’t even know why I picked bacterias as an example when I could just have chosen plants, which are by definition alive too

Just because something can’t feel pain, does that mean we should hurt it ?

Maybe we don’t have the same definition of hurting, but I can’t see how “hurting” works with something that can’t feel pain. Like can you hurt a chair ?

Not sure, I heard some species of jellyfish are super invasive

but then by fishing you may catch other fishes I think

we need an expert

It is a dumpster fire, but it’s also profitable