I head up a small community for fans of a niche indie brand. The founder is doing an event in Japan with an exclusive item for people who attend! I was so excited and was looking into booking a plane ticket to go!

However… turns out that Japan has a law that absolutely forbids stimulant medication in the country. And, no, I don’t really want to upend my regimen of 8 years and risk going on a new medication for the trip.

I’m really shattered, as I wanted to attend this cool event and meet up with other enthusiasts. It really hurts to be barred from an opportunity like this.

I hate ADHD. I really do.

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As an autist who studied Japanese and gave up when I realized I just couldn’t connect with any of the Japanese people I met - even the ones where it was obvious we wanted to be friends - I can assure you the culture is even more impenetrable for autistics. And I don’t have such issues with other autistic people usually, no matter the culture.

Don’t mistake your stereotypes for reality and tell everyone people call you out because of political correctness. You’re just plain old wrong in this.

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Link to those studies?

Edit: me being autistic make everything I say useless? Really?

I really admire your ability to mental gymnastics. No matter what anybody says, you always find a way to tell them their opinion doesn’t matter. Must be nice to be so secure in your own superiority that nothing can convince you otherwise.

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No it actually doesn’t.

Please provide some form of authoritative or even scholarly source for who the “they” it’s that called it that.

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Is this a new Philo account? lol

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If you want to convince people it’s up to you to bring the evidence. I’m not doing your work for you.

Besides, there have been studies shoing that autistics among themselves don’t have the same communication breakdown as they do when interacting with neurotypicals. So if Japan was truly an autistic culture it should be easier for autistic people, but it’s not.

Besides, I’m very curious to see how you are going to apply diagnostic criteria for a neurodivergence to a culture. Like, how do you even begin? Is the culture averse to bright lights? Loud sounds? Does the culture go into hyperfocus moments? Does it suffer from PDA?

The only way you could do this is if you were to take stereotypes about how autistic people behave and try to somehow match them to cultural traits.

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Yeah this dude probably has been in the parts of the internet where that language is typical and now thinks their usage of the word applies.

Which explains why they just deflect when asked for literally any source for what they’re saying.

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So far every answers but one proved me right in that regard.

Yeah, you very clearly think you’re the most right in every interaction. You’re being downvoted because people think you’re not only wrong, but hateful and shitty about it at the same time.

Rather than address the fact that you MIGHT not be the ultimate paragon of authority on every topic you grace with your presence, you’re choosing to disengage completely.

You don’t care about wining so hard that you’re taking your ball and going home because people disagreed with you. All you care about is discussion, and that’s why you’re completely unwilling to hear any points other than your own.

You’re missing the entire point that their culture is autistic, not the people. And then you’re trying to lend exclusively humans traits to a culture

Is calling an entire culture autustic NOT ascribing exclusively human traits to a culture? Did I miss the part in geography where entire countries can be diagnosed with HUMAN MEDICAL CONDITIONS? Rules for thee, none for me!

in bad faith or stupidity, your choice.

In your case it’s both.

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I can see where you are coming from.

But my impression is that Japan has a lot of unspoken rules on how to interact with others. And unspoken social rules are the arch enemy of autism, lmao.

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That’s not what autistic means…

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Where. Where is it described that way?

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Aww come on, tell me more about how Japan the country is autistic! I bet you’ve got all sorts of exciting takes. Maybe Poland is a kleptomaniac, just spitballing!

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There are many better words you could use. Insular, isolationist, xenophobic. Not to mention that I’ve never once heard Japan’s culture described as “autistic”

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They’re making it up. Which is why they can assert “they” say it but then calls folks dumb for not being able to find it.

They also will provide no proof.

It’s a mental gymnastics floor routine.

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That’s exactly the word you’re looking for

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You want to be right, and read what you want

No, I’m Korean and still have family members who experienced first hand the horrors of ethnic conflict brought to them by the government of Japan. The types of crimes that the Japanese government still denies and still attempts to white wash out of history.

Maybe actually pick up a history book about the topic some time? Or, maybe try reading about the history of Japan somewhere other than a manga?

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The guy I answered to talked about “imperial fascism”, are you gonna argue that it doesn’t entail racism ?

Are you denying that the imperial Japanese government wasn’t committing crimes against humanity based on the ideology of ethnic supremacy?

I wasn’t conflating xenophobia with willing racism, I was explaining where the xenophobia hailed from, by confronting your claim that this xenophobia was a result of an often misunderstood span of isolationist tendencies.

A debate isn’t a conflict originally, that’s a very US thing. A debate is supposed to be point of views exposed from both sides, so each can learn from the other.

Maybe between two people educated on the topic… There’s no common ground when one person is just making shit up and not providing any supporting evidence.

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You can’t correct people without attempting to prove they are wrong…

Correcting someone (aka rebutting a claim) automatically means you are engaged in Discourse (aka debate).

If you don’t want to be involved in discourse, then don’t make claims. If you want to make claims, don’t be surprised when people disagree with them and offer rebuttals.

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Or, and I know it sounds like a crazy concept, you could go and learn something about Japanese culture and/or autism that’s not just stereotypes. That might actually do you some good.

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Homeboy already knows everything, nice try.

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You called their culture autistic.

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