Tl:dr: Perhaps I am just uninformed on the issues, but I don’t see what the big deal is with a company like Meta joining the fediverse. If anything, I think it is a very good thing, as it puts more attention and dev time into making it a more functional and better place. So what is the issue?
I personally joined the fediverse because of the structure of it. It cannot be owned by a single company or person, and there will always be a lot of diversity and customizability to how you interact with people and control your data. If people don’t like a particular platform, they don’t have to use it. They can join platforms that defederate from areas of the fediverse they wish to stay away from. That cannot and will not change, just because of how it is built from the ground up.
So enter Threads, and I am starting to see a lot of fear and concern over this. I don’t get why this is. It’s not like the fediverse is owned by Meta now. They are just one more player in hopefully an ever growing list of major organizations joining the fediverse. Ideally, I would like to see as much of the internet using the fediverse as possible. It is how the internet should work overall, and I think the specific issues with a company should not detract from the benefits of them joining.
However, maybe I’m missing something. Is there good reason to be concerned or warry of a company like meta starting an app like threads? What are the major drawbacks and concerns here? Is it being blown out of proportion, or is there actually something to worry about?
Those of us who are of a certain age have seen this happen before. Back in the late 80s and early 90s, some big companies like Compuserve and Prodigy and AOL became service providers and offered customers access to their own content, as well as a “gateway” to the internet. They weren’t the only service providers, but they made access to the internet much easier for less technical people, and they had reach. AOL is infamous for its mail marketing campaign where they blasted copies of their software to everyone on CDs.
That brought a whole new segment of the population onto the internet who didn’t have the same culture or capabilities or interest in building a high-quality community. Usenet forums were particularly impacted. Longtime users coined a term that is still used today to describe this phenomenon: Eternal September. Why September? Because prior to all of this, the only time the forums had to deal with inexperienced, uncouth users was in September, when a new batch of first-year college students got access to the internet and found their way to Usenet.
Right now Lemmy is peopled with the high-quality user base that wants to improve the community. Threads threatens to (and will) open the floodgates of people who may not share those interests.
Eternal September was coined by a small group of college students using closed network systems at their school; not by public Usenet forums. The name comes from the influx of new users every September that would have to be taught the culture.
Thank you, this definitely makes sense. Hopefully the more decentralized format that the fediverse is taking will ensure that small high quality communities will still be able to thrive, but I do see the threat that larger corporations play.
Is there no way to ensure that the community remains high quality? What measures can be taken? Defederation? Education?
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Those of us who are of a certain age have seen this happen before. Back in the late 80s and early 90s, some big companies like Compuserve and Prodigy and AOL became service providers and offered customers access to their own content, as well as a “gateway” to the internet. They weren’t the only service providers, but they made access to the internet much easier for less technical people, and they had reach. AOL is infamous for its mail marketing campaign where they blasted copies of their software to everyone on CDs.
That brought a whole new segment of the population onto the internet who didn’t have the same culture or capabilities or interest in building a high-quality community. Usenet forums were particularly impacted. Longtime users coined a term that is still used today to describe this phenomenon: Eternal September. Why September? Because prior to all of this, the only time the forums had to deal with inexperienced, uncouth users was in September, when a new batch of first-year college students got access to the internet and found their way to Usenet.
Right now Lemmy is peopled with the high-quality user base that wants to improve the community. Threads threatens to (and will) open the floodgates of people who may not share those interests.
I snapped so many of those discs into tiny fragments to make mirror murals back in the day. They were absolutely everywhere.
I glued the label sides together to make shiny coasters. (Edit: typo)
Eternal September was coined by a small group of college students using closed network systems at their school; not by public Usenet forums. The name comes from the influx of new users every September that would have to be taught the culture.
Thank you, this definitely makes sense. Hopefully the more decentralized format that the fediverse is taking will ensure that small high quality communities will still be able to thrive, but I do see the threat that larger corporations play.
Is there no way to ensure that the community remains high quality? What measures can be taken? Defederation? Education?