I actually quite like having Beehaw being proactive about their users’ safety/ mental well-being.
I wound up making a second account on Lemmy.world so I can see what’s going on in the larger Lemmy community, but I also appreciate being able to browse and post in a safer environment. I just wish the Lemmy back-end had more nuanced federation/ defederation options and better mod tools so I didn’t have to make a second account to browse the extended Lemmy community.
Edit because my first draft was just being sarcastic. I am pointing out how useless your comment was for discourse. The person you replied to never stated anything about communism, they were just pro-defederation for beehaw. They didn’t even specify “pro defederation from lemmygrad”, just that they like the heavy moderation. You then called them a red scare apologist for nonsensical reasons. So since you are pro-federation with lemmygrad, I jumped to the conclusion that you are a genocide denier, even though you never said anything of the sort. It’s useless conversation, it in no way moves the conversation forward, and all it does it make you feel superior.
He said the following “Beehaw being proactive about their users’ safety/ mental well-being.” in the context where I said beehaw persecutes the left. Does persecuting the left equal protecting anyone’s mental health? It does, if you support the Red Scare.
Also, which genocide? The genocide of indigenous population in the United States? Black Genocide? Jew genocide by the nazis whom the right defend so much?
EDIT: by how quickly this was downvoted I can tell the person didn’t even read the post.
That other reply/summary is a pretty biased hot take. Click on that user and see where he’s coming from and you might see why. I’m not on Beehaw, but I’ll take a shot at doing better.
Beehaw has the goal of being a “safe space” on the Internet: no harassment, no trolls, very supportive of marginalized groups, etc. So they’re heavily moderated, but they have (or, at least had) a small mod team.
When the Reddit exodus started, with the sudden flood of people to Lemmy overall, two of the bigger instances, .world and shit just works, had open/instant registrations without any verification. Apparently people were signing up on those two instances and harassing/trolling communities on Beehaw, and their small mod team was overwhelmed trying to keep everything within their stricter policies. They said the mod tools available to them currently don’t allow much granularity, so about the only thing they could do is defederate from the two instances, and that’s what they did.
They said they consider it temporary until the tools or situation improve to the point where they can better handle it.
I personally think their goal is noble, but I’ve never seen anyone succeed at making a completely safe space on the Internet, and I’m not sure a federated instance is the place to make one, but good on them for trying.
I’m afraid I don’t have an account on beehaw and I don’t have any bookmarks either but essentially they pose themselves as “neutral” but they are the far-right definition of neutral. The first issue was their terrible excuse to defederate from lemmygrad, they weren’t sincere at all, they just kept making it look like they were doing some sort of “good thing”, from that point they kept removing any strongly left-wing comments and banning users who disagreed with the American narrative of world events.
As an alternate viewpoint: admittedly, I haven’t been super involved there, so maybe I missed some stuff, but I haven’t seen anything like what that person was talking about. Lemmygrad are a bunch of tankies, the dumb shit they say makes the left look bad. From what I understand, people on the right seem to hate Beehaw because of their strong moderation policy.
I’m pretty sure the person you replied to is just a triggered tankie. “disagreed with the American narrative of world events,” means, “they removed my Russian propaganda posts.” I would take what they say with a grain of salt.
Oh lol, I hoped over to beehaw briefly to check it out abd…yeah it doesn’t seem to line up with that comment, strong moderation yeah, but ah well. Thanks for providing some additional context!
To be fair it’s not really “falling” - Lemmy instances are not in competition with one another due to federation.
Understandably people want to feel like they “won” somehow, but this isn’t something you really need to worry about on the Fediverse, it’s more like everyone working alongside each other.
It doesn’t appear like they value growth for growth’s sake. And that’s cool because it lets them focus on other, arguably more important, stuff. Many of our preconceived notions about social networking don’t translate well to the federation model.
I’m as leftist as they come but I think it’s their prerogative to defederate from any instance they want. If you and/or your content are not welcome there you should respect that. It would be kind of authoritarian otherwise, wouldn’t it?
Censorship is not what’s happening, because you’re always free to express yourself in countless other spaces if you want. That does not mean that they’re are forced to read what you say.
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Beehaw admins shot themselves in the foot, it was supposed to be the no.1 by now but they decided to persecute the left instead.
Maybe they care more about their users than being number one.
I actually quite like having Beehaw being proactive about their users’ safety/ mental well-being.
I wound up making a second account on Lemmy.world so I can see what’s going on in the larger Lemmy community, but I also appreciate being able to browse and post in a safer environment. I just wish the Lemmy back-end had more nuanced federation/ defederation options and better mod tools so I didn’t have to make a second account to browse the extended Lemmy community.
A red scare apologist, impressive.
A genocide denier, impressive.
Edit because my first draft was just being sarcastic. I am pointing out how useless your comment was for discourse. The person you replied to never stated anything about communism, they were just pro-defederation for beehaw. They didn’t even specify “pro defederation from lemmygrad”, just that they like the heavy moderation. You then called them a red scare apologist for nonsensical reasons. So since you are pro-federation with lemmygrad, I jumped to the conclusion that you are a genocide denier, even though you never said anything of the sort. It’s useless conversation, it in no way moves the conversation forward, and all it does it make you feel superior.
No, no, this is completely different.
He said the following “Beehaw being proactive about their users’ safety/ mental well-being.” in the context where I said beehaw persecutes the left. Does persecuting the left equal protecting anyone’s mental health? It does, if you support the Red Scare.
Also, which genocide? The genocide of indigenous population in the United States? Black Genocide? Jew genocide by the nazis whom the right defend so much?
EDIT: by how quickly this was downvoted I can tell the person didn’t even read the post.
If you feel persecuted by people who don’t want to be associated with genocide denial, then you are a genocide denier. Blocked.
Which genocide? The genocide of indigenous population in the United States? Black Genocide? Jew genocide by the nazis whom the right defend so much?
I LOVE your username
I’m ootl on that, is there a summary thread anywhere?
That other reply/summary is a pretty biased hot take. Click on that user and see where he’s coming from and you might see why. I’m not on Beehaw, but I’ll take a shot at doing better.
Beehaw has the goal of being a “safe space” on the Internet: no harassment, no trolls, very supportive of marginalized groups, etc. So they’re heavily moderated, but they have (or, at least had) a small mod team.
When the Reddit exodus started, with the sudden flood of people to Lemmy overall, two of the bigger instances, .world and shit just works, had open/instant registrations without any verification. Apparently people were signing up on those two instances and harassing/trolling communities on Beehaw, and their small mod team was overwhelmed trying to keep everything within their stricter policies. They said the mod tools available to them currently don’t allow much granularity, so about the only thing they could do is defederate from the two instances, and that’s what they did.
They said they consider it temporary until the tools or situation improve to the point where they can better handle it.
I personally think their goal is noble, but I’ve never seen anyone succeed at making a completely safe space on the Internet, and I’m not sure a federated instance is the place to make one, but good on them for trying.
I’m afraid I don’t have an account on beehaw and I don’t have any bookmarks either but essentially they pose themselves as “neutral” but they are the far-right definition of neutral. The first issue was their terrible excuse to defederate from lemmygrad, they weren’t sincere at all, they just kept making it look like they were doing some sort of “good thing”, from that point they kept removing any strongly left-wing comments and banning users who disagreed with the American narrative of world events.
Oh gotcha, thanks for the summary!
As an alternate viewpoint: admittedly, I haven’t been super involved there, so maybe I missed some stuff, but I haven’t seen anything like what that person was talking about. Lemmygrad are a bunch of tankies, the dumb shit they say makes the left look bad. From what I understand, people on the right seem to hate Beehaw because of their strong moderation policy.
I’m pretty sure the person you replied to is just a triggered tankie. “disagreed with the American narrative of world events,” means, “they removed my Russian propaganda posts.” I would take what they say with a grain of salt.
Yeah I like beehaw, I made an account on Lemm.ee after they decided to defed from world and nuked the content I see
Oh lol, I hoped over to beehaw briefly to check it out abd…yeah it doesn’t seem to line up with that comment, strong moderation yeah, but ah well. Thanks for providing some additional context!
Not really. They never wanted a large instance and didn’t want to become a Reddit replacement. I see them more like a federated Tildes, honestly.
When I switched they were one of the biggest communities, I’m really surprised to see just HOW FAR they fell.
beehaw defederating from lemmygrad was the entire reason why I created an account on lemmy.world
To be fair it’s not really “falling” - Lemmy instances are not in competition with one another due to federation.
Understandably people want to feel like they “won” somehow, but this isn’t something you really need to worry about on the Fediverse, it’s more like everyone working alongside each other.
It doesn’t appear like they value growth for growth’s sake. And that’s cool because it lets them focus on other, arguably more important, stuff. Many of our preconceived notions about social networking don’t translate well to the federation model.
Censoring the left.
I’m as leftist as they come but I think it’s their prerogative to defederate from any instance they want. If you and/or your content are not welcome there you should respect that. It would be kind of authoritarian otherwise, wouldn’t it?
Censorship is not what’s happening, because you’re always free to express yourself in countless other spaces if you want. That does not mean that they’re are forced to read what you say.