Unless they’re talking about Children of the Corn (which is a short story, not a book) I don’t know what King book they’re referencing. And as a Grade A certified pedantic asshole SHORT STORIES DON’T COUNT.
Yeah, “Regulators” is an odd ass example. The other book that King released at the same time under his actual name (“Desperation”) was way more memorable drawing from my adolescent mind. Having read both at the time of around their respective release, I don’t remember much about Regulators other than it takes place in a suburb and Desperation is so vastly superior a read/100 and it’s not even close. So yeah, deep dive from OP I guess
Wasn’t he the villain in “Desperation” too? From what I vaguely remember, more pronounced in my mind with the body-horror possession shit. Tak is probably meant to be some kinda Pennywise/Flagg offshoot (lost idea) or something
Adding to that; doesn’t “Children…” take place in like Iowa or something? I can’t think of a King book that takes place specifically in Ohio, but I also haven’t really read his stuff the past decade
I’m confused, do you automatically get to be in posession of books that have ass pics in them once you live in Ohio? I’m moving there if that’s the case lmao
Sounds a lot like phoenix, except for the corn and snow… And it’s not usually muggy here, just that oven blast as you step out of your air conditioned space…
When I was an exchange student there, it was so painful. In my country I could walk places… Like, damn, going to the store to buy a snack or something. In Ohio I needed to ask someone for a 30m ride to the nearest location. It was just farm after farm after farm… Damn… It sucked.
That’s the same for most of US though. Not Ohio specific. They don’t know how to City over there. Just parking lots connected by highways and the buildings needed to support the parking lots.
I love the dichotomy of different kinds of states that tell technical truths about moving there. Ohio: I’ll tell you the truth because you actually don’t want to move here, trust me. An unnamed western state: weather or animals will killl you. Twice (please don’t move here, because it’s awesome without you here).
It’s worth actually doing the comparisons to see whether car-centric living is a net positive or negative in practice in particular situations. Urban density should be a pure benefit, with economies of scale making everything cheaper. Unfortunately, cities in practice have some downsides that reduce that benefit. One major one is that centralizing services means that it’s more useful to try to get a cut of the cash flowing through the institution, and so some of the gains get siphoned off. As a trivial example, exactly zero percent of car commute expenses go to a bus driver’s union.
Okay, so for your example, the money you’d spend on buying and maintaining a car, and all of the gas you have to buy to fuel it is clearly orders of magnitude more than the percent of you bus ticket price that goes to paying the percent of the bus driver’s wages than then goes to their union dues. Like, hundred or maybe even thousands of dollars per month vs. a few cents a month. Many people have already done the math many, many times, and it always works out to be a lot cheaper to have dense urban areas. It’s not even close in any scenario. This is not a new idea, and there already over a century of data all coming to the same conclusion.
Also, just the idea that unions are “siphoning off” money is really creepy. They are providing a very important service, and exactly zero percent of those union dues go to lobbying by oil companies to continue using fossil fuels even as global warming is becoming our present, not just our future. It is a much better use of funds than, for instance, paving 2/3 of the real estate in every city in America until we have 4 times as many parking spots as we have cars. Which is a thing we have done.
Many people have already done the math many, many times, and it always works out to be a lot cheaper to have dense urban areas.
I just moved from a dense urban area to a rural area. Taking everything into account - yes, really - things are unambiguously cheaper here. That’s a common result in the US. If you want to blame a single thing, I’d go with lack of housing supply in cities due to exclusionary zoning, but I hit some other weird figures like municipal water+sewer being more expensive than a well and septic system (again, yes, taking everything into account including construction costs).
I understand you’re trying to be nuanced here. I think that realistically things are so very skewed toward suburban and exurban development, car centricity, that any movement toward urbanity is better at this point in time.
The cost of living in Ohio is very good. The housing market is a bit of a mess in general but definitely in Ohio. It’s a seller’s market that still hasn’t recovered from the pandemic.
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Unless they’re talking about Children of the Corn (which is a short story, not a book) I don’t know what King book they’re referencing. And as a Grade A certified pedantic asshole SHORT STORIES DON’T COUNT.
I was thinking Desperation but that was Nevada
The opposite of that took place in Ohio. The Regulators
I’m guessing this is what OP is talking about. That book is fuckin weird.
Yeah, “Regulators” is an odd ass example. The other book that King released at the same time under his actual name (“Desperation”) was way more memorable drawing from my adolescent mind. Having read both at the time of around their respective release, I don’t remember much about Regulators other than it takes place in a suburb and Desperation is so vastly superior a read/100 and it’s not even close. So yeah, deep dive from OP I guess
Tak was a memorable character though. Stuck with me throughout my life. I think Stephen was just trying to build a world around Tak, tbh.
Wasn’t he the villain in “Desperation” too? From what I vaguely remember, more pronounced in my mind with the body-horror possession shit. Tak is probably meant to be some kinda Pennywise/Flagg offshoot (lost idea) or something
He was, yes. It’s been too long on the details but I think I remember him staying in bodies much longer in Desperation.
Adding to that; doesn’t “Children…” take place in like Iowa or something? I can’t think of a King book that takes place specifically in Ohio, but I also haven’t really read his stuff the past decade
I love how Ohio has become the go to meme state
Meh, Ohio is for emo kids.
No, Ohio is for lovers. 🖤
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I’m not a big fan of Stephen King but I love ass books. So conflicted.
The thiccer the better
Oh yeah, I love them thick and spread them… pages.
I’m confused, do you automatically get to be in posession of books that have ass pics in them once you live in Ohio? I’m moving there if that’s the case lmao
Ohio? Where the fuck is that, somewhere in Mexico?
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He wrote many of his books in Bolivia/Colombia… in his nose.
Is the trap that Ohio sucks to live in or anything more specific?
Do Not Let Your Children Play In THe Corn.
That’s…that’s not what children of the corn is about.
OUTLANDER!
Don’t correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t believe that word is ever used in the short story, only the movie, SO THERE!
He wants you too, Malachi
Housing might be cheap but…
Sounds a lot like phoenix, except for the corn and snow… And it’s not usually muggy here, just that oven blast as you step out of your air conditioned space…
When I was an exchange student there, it was so painful. In my country I could walk places… Like, damn, going to the store to buy a snack or something. In Ohio I needed to ask someone for a 30m ride to the nearest location. It was just farm after farm after farm… Damn… It sucked.
That’s the same for most of US though. Not Ohio specific. They don’t know how to City over there. Just parking lots connected by highways and the buildings needed to support the parking lots.
Sadly accurate.
State politicians are getting worse and worse
I love the dichotomy of different kinds of states that tell technical truths about moving there. Ohio: I’ll tell you the truth because you actually don’t want to move here, trust me. An unnamed western state: weather or animals will killl you. Twice (please don’t move here, because it’s awesome without you here).
You’re talking about Montana. I know this because I used to live there. Get lost!
Also sometimes the sky touches the ground and removes your house from existence
This is all right and its sad and my bike is sad
Only thing I care is, gigabit internet
It’s worth actually doing the comparisons to see whether car-centric living is a net positive or negative in practice in particular situations. Urban density should be a pure benefit, with economies of scale making everything cheaper. Unfortunately, cities in practice have some downsides that reduce that benefit. One major one is that centralizing services means that it’s more useful to try to get a cut of the cash flowing through the institution, and so some of the gains get siphoned off. As a trivial example, exactly zero percent of car commute expenses go to a bus driver’s union.
Okay, so for your example, the money you’d spend on buying and maintaining a car, and all of the gas you have to buy to fuel it is clearly orders of magnitude more than the percent of you bus ticket price that goes to paying the percent of the bus driver’s wages than then goes to their union dues. Like, hundred or maybe even thousands of dollars per month vs. a few cents a month. Many people have already done the math many, many times, and it always works out to be a lot cheaper to have dense urban areas. It’s not even close in any scenario. This is not a new idea, and there already over a century of data all coming to the same conclusion.
Also, just the idea that unions are “siphoning off” money is really creepy. They are providing a very important service, and exactly zero percent of those union dues go to lobbying by oil companies to continue using fossil fuels even as global warming is becoming our present, not just our future. It is a much better use of funds than, for instance, paving 2/3 of the real estate in every city in America until we have 4 times as many parking spots as we have cars. Which is a thing we have done.
I just moved from a dense urban area to a rural area. Taking everything into account - yes, really - things are unambiguously cheaper here. That’s a common result in the US. If you want to blame a single thing, I’d go with lack of housing supply in cities due to exclusionary zoning, but I hit some other weird figures like municipal water+sewer being more expensive than a well and septic system (again, yes, taking everything into account including construction costs).
I understand you’re trying to be nuanced here. I think that realistically things are so very skewed toward suburban and exurban development, car centricity, that any movement toward urbanity is better at this point in time.
The cost of living in Ohio is very good. The housing market is a bit of a mess in general but definitely in Ohio. It’s a seller’s market that still hasn’t recovered from the pandemic.