I haven’t been a mod, but I volunteered for Transcribers of Reddit. For me, it was about having something to do that’s not entirely a waste of time. So I’d call that egoistic altruism.
Most of lemmy’s community mods thus far are just passionate pioneers who want to refound their favorite subreddits here and then invite people over and demote interested people to mod to make more entirely-new moderators, if the migrated subs are big ones, then odds are the actual mods for the originals are the powertripping, far-left and probable-chomo type who don’t wanna give up the powertrip they enjoy on reddit for a small refuge that nobody posts on in comparison.
Most unpaid moderators across the entire Internet do so because they have a higher than average interest in the community and want to help keep it running well. You will find some who want to spin a narrative, and some who just want to see a number go up, and some that want to troll their community, and even a small amount who actually are paid shills - but all of these groups put together is but a tiny fraction of all moderators. They’re just usually the most noticeable and so color your perception the most. Squeaky wheel gets the grease, shitty mod gets the public’s attention.
I’m a light handed mod for a Facebook group of about 2,000 people. If I didn’t do that it’d either have to go private or it would be overrun with spam. I care about my community and giving everyone a fair go, so that’s why I do it.
I would imagine being a mod on a fediverse community would be much the same.
As a moderator, i find it satisfying to clean my little corner of the internet.
We all see spam an scams when we use social media, and there’s not much that you can do about it, maybe report it to admins if you have a minute. For the most part, you’re powerless.
But on my fenced area of the internet, i actually get to do something about it. If your bot reposts content on r/shittyfoodporn to farm karma, i will pluck it out like a snail from my salad and kill it. Removing bad content is as satisfying as popping a pimple, it gives me the same joy as a retired dad meticulously cleaning his garden.
The less enjoyable part is when i have to interfere with the users themselves. Mildly saucy fanart will get posted to r/zootopia and i have to decide if it’s over or under the line, and it feels bad to remove a post that somebody legitimately just wanted to share.
Personally, I created two communities here that I frequented on /r, /m/Amex and /m/Signal because I wanted to help build kbin up overall, and give a home to those that migrated. Full disclosure, I will eventually step back from moderating once those communities grow and become self-sufficient with additional moderators joining in.
Control. These people have almost no agency in their lives. They typically don’t work, or if they do, choose low responsibility roles with few demands on them. They also tend to live meagre lives, often living with parents and flat mates. They tend to be socially awkward, often self diagnosing autism and other afflictions. They revel in their victimhood, and choose to construct grand narratives about how their failures are the fault of society, and not them.
Consequently, they have very little control over their lives, and very low self esteem. They seek out control in the only place they will ever experience it: online communities.
I used to be a Reddit moderator for a 1M+ sub. That was me. I feel qualified to talk about my experience and that of all the other Reddit moderators I knew.
I’ve been a mod on a game subReddit. Mostly because there was only one active mod before and they couldn’t handle it all. Game wasn’t particularly universally loved so general internet hate and Reddit hivemind hate often spilled over into it. Why I did it? Because I enjoyed talking about that game in a positive environment.
In all honesty: the negative vibes on Reddit towards moderators took a lot of the joy out of it. Imagine temp banning someone because they keep calling racist slurs towards other users, then perma banning them because they continue, and then they start making new accounts over and over to send hateful messages towards you. Then you browse some Reddit for your own leisure only to read the general consensus that all mods are powerhungry faggots.
End result was worth it though, I guess? Sub is in a good place now. Positive vibes, and little bullshit. No longer an active mod though, because without RIF I don’t have to proper tools to keep moderating from phone. Can’t even enjoy it the way I used though. Bitter? Slightly. But I have good hopes about my new online social environment here.
I’ve met power hungry asshole mods. I’m sure I’ve met plenty of great ones, but you don’t realize they’re mods because they don’t behave like idiots and are just normal users that are nice enough to interact with. I guess the people who generalized mods are mainly the ones that get banned rightfully.
When people complain about certain roles like moderators and project managers they always focus on thee terrible ones because that is what humans tend to focus on. Those roles wouldn’t exist if they weren’t necessary to handle large numbers of people interacting, and 99% of the time the people in the roles are fine and everything goes smoothly and nobody really notices.
Unfortunately those roles are attractive to power hungry people and those few are who everyone remembers.
Unfortunately those roles are attractive to power hungry people and those few are who everyone remembers.
That’s the sad part. I’ve met more incompetent or power hungry people in management positions than really good ones. They exist, but I’ve made my peace with those who at least don’t keep me from working.
and everything goes smoothly and nobody really notices
Exactly this. In the sub I frequented the most, we had a huge problem with T-shirt scammers and Karma Farming repost bots, but the mods usually nuked those pretty fast. However, since we’re all busy adults with limited spare time, the mods can not be online and vigilant 24/7 and occasionally a bot or scammer slipped through the cracks.
I wasn’t a mod (didn’t want to, TBH) but always openly called these out in addition to reporting them, just to make sure noone clicked on the scam links until an actual mod was able to remove the post. In these situations it happened quite often that people started to argue with me, demanded to know why I thought that “totally harmless guy showing off a cool shirt” was a scammer and the like, simply because THEY had never ever seen a scam attempt in the sub before - as those posts were usually removed pretty quickly …
Personally, I would want to be a mod because ooh status and also because I want to make myself useful, do stuff, etc. Basically if I have so much time in my hands that I could help out in an online community.
Idk though, those were my thoughts when I was 13 and now I’m just too lazy to want to be a moderator, and too easily triggered.
@CaspianXI I’ve always been of the opinion that if something you want doesn’t exist, go and do it yourself. That’s why I’ve modded and continued to do so-- things don’t just happen on their own.
I know there are some power trippers that just like to be the boss of things, but I’m assuming most are like me, who just want a happy and functional community to exist and thrive.
Beat me by fifteen minutes, lol. I was going to type something very similar.
Moderators should feel responsible for providing a safe space and enjoyable experience for the visitors and subscribers of their community. It’s ungrateful work, but someone has to do it. Power trippers who just want to be in charge of something are rarely good mods.
I recently offered to mod and the 3 other mods seem to have the same feeling… it needed to be done and we want the community to thrive… I’ll let ya know when the power gets to my head though
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I haven’t been a mod, but I volunteered for Transcribers of Reddit. For me, it was about having something to do that’s not entirely a waste of time. So I’d call that egoistic altruism.
Most of lemmy’s community mods thus far are just passionate pioneers who want to refound their favorite subreddits here and then invite people over and demote interested people to mod to make more entirely-new moderators, if the migrated subs are big ones, then odds are the actual mods for the originals are the powertripping, far-left and probable-chomo type who don’t wanna give up the powertrip they enjoy on reddit for a small refuge that nobody posts on in comparison.
Most unpaid moderators across the entire Internet do so because they have a higher than average interest in the community and want to help keep it running well. You will find some who want to spin a narrative, and some who just want to see a number go up, and some that want to troll their community, and even a small amount who actually are paid shills - but all of these groups put together is but a tiny fraction of all moderators. They’re just usually the most noticeable and so color your perception the most. Squeaky wheel gets the grease, shitty mod gets the public’s attention.
I’m a light handed mod for a Facebook group of about 2,000 people. If I didn’t do that it’d either have to go private or it would be overrun with spam. I care about my community and giving everyone a fair go, so that’s why I do it.
I would imagine being a mod on a fediverse community would be much the same.
As a moderator, i find it satisfying to clean my little corner of the internet.
We all see spam an scams when we use social media, and there’s not much that you can do about it, maybe report it to admins if you have a minute. For the most part, you’re powerless.
But on my fenced area of the internet, i actually get to do something about it. If your bot reposts content on r/shittyfoodporn to farm karma, i will pluck it out like a snail from my salad and kill it. Removing bad content is as satisfying as popping a pimple, it gives me the same joy as a retired dad meticulously cleaning his garden.
The less enjoyable part is when i have to interfere with the users themselves. Mildly saucy fanart will get posted to r/zootopia and i have to decide if it’s over or under the line, and it feels bad to remove a post that somebody legitimately just wanted to share.
Personally, I created two communities here that I frequented on /r, /m/Amex and /m/Signal because I wanted to help build kbin up overall, and give a home to those that migrated. Full disclosure, I will eventually step back from moderating once those communities grow and become self-sufficient with additional moderators joining in.
I’m seeing spam start to show up here and looking for ways to help stop that.
Yes.
It’s all for your own good, dumpling…
Control. These people have almost no agency in their lives. They typically don’t work, or if they do, choose low responsibility roles with few demands on them. They also tend to live meagre lives, often living with parents and flat mates. They tend to be socially awkward, often self diagnosing autism and other afflictions. They revel in their victimhood, and choose to construct grand narratives about how their failures are the fault of society, and not them.
Consequently, they have very little control over their lives, and very low self esteem. They seek out control in the only place they will ever experience it: online communities.
So you decided to come here and spit truth?
I used to be a Reddit moderator for a 1M+ sub. That was me. I feel qualified to talk about my experience and that of all the other Reddit moderators I knew.
Projection
You just described trolls.
I personally moderated a few on Reddit just because I didn’t want them to fill up with porn when it’s a femboys hooters sub lol.
“Only aim to do your duty, and mankind will give you credit where you fail.” 🫡
I’ve been a mod on a game subReddit. Mostly because there was only one active mod before and they couldn’t handle it all. Game wasn’t particularly universally loved so general internet hate and Reddit hivemind hate often spilled over into it. Why I did it? Because I enjoyed talking about that game in a positive environment.
In all honesty: the negative vibes on Reddit towards moderators took a lot of the joy out of it. Imagine temp banning someone because they keep calling racist slurs towards other users, then perma banning them because they continue, and then they start making new accounts over and over to send hateful messages towards you. Then you browse some Reddit for your own leisure only to read the general consensus that all mods are powerhungry faggots.
End result was worth it though, I guess? Sub is in a good place now. Positive vibes, and little bullshit. No longer an active mod though, because without RIF I don’t have to proper tools to keep moderating from phone. Can’t even enjoy it the way I used though. Bitter? Slightly. But I have good hopes about my new online social environment here.
I’ve met power hungry asshole mods. I’m sure I’ve met plenty of great ones, but you don’t realize they’re mods because they don’t behave like idiots and are just normal users that are nice enough to interact with. I guess the people who generalized mods are mainly the ones that get banned rightfully.
When people complain about certain roles like moderators and project managers they always focus on thee terrible ones because that is what humans tend to focus on. Those roles wouldn’t exist if they weren’t necessary to handle large numbers of people interacting, and 99% of the time the people in the roles are fine and everything goes smoothly and nobody really notices.
Unfortunately those roles are attractive to power hungry people and those few are who everyone remembers.
That’s the sad part. I’ve met more incompetent or power hungry people in management positions than really good ones. They exist, but I’ve made my peace with those who at least don’t keep me from working.
Exactly this. In the sub I frequented the most, we had a huge problem with T-shirt scammers and Karma Farming repost bots, but the mods usually nuked those pretty fast. However, since we’re all busy adults with limited spare time, the mods can not be online and vigilant 24/7 and occasionally a bot or scammer slipped through the cracks.
I wasn’t a mod (didn’t want to, TBH) but always openly called these out in addition to reporting them, just to make sure noone clicked on the scam links until an actual mod was able to remove the post. In these situations it happened quite often that people started to argue with me, demanded to know why I thought that “totally harmless guy showing off a cool shirt” was a scammer and the like, simply because THEY had never ever seen a scam attempt in the sub before - as those posts were usually removed pretty quickly …
Personally, I would want to be a mod because ooh status and also because I want to make myself useful, do stuff, etc. Basically if I have so much time in my hands that I could help out in an online community.
Idk though, those were my thoughts when I was 13 and now I’m just too lazy to want to be a moderator, and too easily triggered.
@CaspianXI I’ve always been of the opinion that if something you want doesn’t exist, go and do it yourself. That’s why I’ve modded and continued to do so-- things don’t just happen on their own.
I know there are some power trippers that just like to be the boss of things, but I’m assuming most are like me, who just want a happy and functional community to exist and thrive.
Beat me by fifteen minutes, lol. I was going to type something very similar.
Moderators should feel responsible for providing a safe space and enjoyable experience for the visitors and subscribers of their community. It’s ungrateful work, but someone has to do it. Power trippers who just want to be in charge of something are rarely good mods.
I recently offered to mod and the 3 other mods seem to have the same feeling… it needed to be done and we want the community to thrive… I’ll let ya know when the power gets to my head though