I have default windows defender, but didnt even know its antivirus lol. Is there any antivirus installed by default on any popular linux distro? What do you use?
I feel like antivirus can just annoy me when trying to crack something, but maybe defender protects me and im not aware.
Contrary to other’s recommendations I’m gonna say that it isn’t a bad thing to run an AV on your files. Even if it’s not going to affect you, you might not want to arbor virii in your library. ClamAV is the main anti-virus for Linux.
If you are on Windows, you already have a good antivirus program built in, and that is Windows Defender. Other than that, be sure to install uBlock Origin extension in your preferred browser - it not only eliminates ads, but also annoying pop-ups, embeds, trackers, malware sites and other annoying things on the internet. When you want to download something, and you’re not sure if it’s safe, scan the download link with VirusTotal.
@noodlejetski I’m using mastadon I don’t see the conversation flow like on lemmy.world. time to use jerboa. Try “>” next time to show it’s a quote, the post didn’t read like that.
I would say for Linux to ust use uBO+FF and to not blindly copy terminal commands from the internet or to run random files with root. As many other comments have said there’s clamAV to scan for Windows viruses but since Linux is far less prone to viruses (due to Linux viruses being quite uncommon), I think you’re good without one.
My paranoid me has no concerns in regards to Linux but I am running pyload in an LXC under proxmox to download you know what for my Windows PC.
So before using the files I would like to have them checked.
Therefore I just finished my setup.
Debian 12 LXC unprivileged, running pyload through openvpn tunnel. clamav does daily checks in the download directory and sends me an email if anything is found.
Rootkits still can exist for Linux, but because there are more Windows users and thus more to be gained from a Windows virus of any sort, it would be pretty hard to find a rootkit for Linux.
In my opinion windows defender is worse than not using an antivirus at all because of the false sense of security. I’m sure that the guy who got his Bitcoin stolen from downloading fake OBS software has windows defender enabled like everybody else.
I’m not suggesting you go out of your way to disable defender, but exercise common sense and good security practices instead of relying on any antivirus. Download software from package managers (winget, scoop, chocolatey) instead of from Google and always read the megathread for getting “other stuff”. Install an adblocker on your browser and block as much 3rd party and Javashit as is practical. Don’t use the administrator account as your main account. Sandbox your programs if you’re feeling extra paranoid. Always back up everything important somewhere else. Use TRON script (r/tronscript) to clean up your computer in case you get infected.
However always keep in mind no strategy is 100% safe, but a little common sense goes a long way.
If we’re talking about common sense, then admitting to getting your bitcoin stolen by downloading fake OBS software probably isn’t the way to start off the comment. That’s not Windows Defender’s fault, that one was all on you, and can happen with most anti-virus if you’re not paying attention to what you’re doing.
Windows Defender is enough. On your web browser you need uBlock origin. This means you need to use Chrome or Firefox as your web browser. *edit: Don’t bother with Chrome. Use Firefox. Someone replied to me with convincing reasons to just skip Chrome altogether.
This person doesn’t seem to know what they’re doing, given the question, so I went for two options. I haven’t been using Chrome. Good call and thanks for correcting me. Google just gets more evil by the day, doesn’t it? I’ll edit my comment. Thanks again.
Currently, the predominant business model for commercial search engines is advertising. The goals of
the advertising business model do not always correspond to providing quality search to users. For
example, in our prototype search engine one of the top results for cellular phone is “The Effect of
Cellular Phone Use Upon Driver Attention”, a study which explains in great detail the distractions and
risk associated with conversing on a cell phone while driving. This search result came up first because
of its high importance as judged by the PageRank algorithm, an approximation of citation importance on
the web [Page, 98]. It is clear that a search engine which was taking money for showing cellular phone
ads would have difficulty justifying the page that our system returned to its paying advertisers. For this
type of reason and historical experience with other media [Bagdikian 83], we expect that advertising
funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of the
consumers.
Yeah, that’s why literacy is so important now. Not just literacy, but high levels of literacy, the kind that require a high level of research ability. Otherwise, we have the internet of today, and it will not stop until people start putting value on literacy and critical thinking skills. Today’s average user is just not competent enough to sift through all the trash and find the important stuff. That high school English class that forced you to write a research paper? Didn’t prepare you enough. That high school English class needed to do better. Turn you into a research machine.
there are next to no linux viruses. there is a bit of malware, but mostly targeted at servers. just don’t excessively download and execute random stuff. and don’t type things like “rm -rf /” into your console, if people tell you to. use your package manager where you can.
(most linux antivirus is used in like email-servers to scan mail before sending them out, so the windows clients don’t get infected. antivirus on linux is seldomly/never(?) used to protect the linux itself.)
I don’t bother but I do run an online scanner every now and again such as eset antivirus or malwarebytes if I’m feeling paranoid.
I’d also try to memorise every file in my startup but I used to write trojans, password crackers, and other dodgy programs myself when I was teaching myself how to program.
Personally I never went further than dll injection so I might be living in the past. The last virus to wreck one of my systems was pespaces 95 way back in the 95/98 days
I’d say memorising your startup or at least screenshooting it is key.
I don’t bother but I do run an online scanner every now and again such as eset antivirus or malwarebytes if I’m feeling paranoid.
I’d also try to memorise every file in my startup but I used to write trojans, password crackers, and other dodgy programs myself when I was teaching myself how to program.
Personally I never went further than dll injection so I might be living in the past. The last virus to wreck one of my systems was pespace way back in the 95 days
I’d say memorising your startup or at least screenshooting it is key.
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Contrary to other’s recommendations I’m gonna say that it isn’t a bad thing to run an AV on your files. Even if it’s not going to affect you, you might not want to arbor virii in your library. ClamAV is the main anti-virus for Linux.
If you are on Windows, you already have a good antivirus program built in, and that is Windows Defender. Other than that, be sure to install uBlock Origin extension in your preferred browser - it not only eliminates ads, but also annoying pop-ups, embeds, trackers, malware sites and other annoying things on the internet. When you want to download something, and you’re not sure if it’s safe, scan the download link with VirusTotal.
no.
uBlock Origin.
Ubo isn’t an antivirus. It’s an adblocker
It can help you avoid malware ads.
@noodlejetski @rambos
ClamAV
Sophos
Rootkit Hunter
Comodo
ClamTk
F-PROT
Chkrootkit
and as far as I’m aware, about 0 of those are preinstalled on major distros, which is what I was answering.
@noodlejetski no distro will pre install a AV… 🤣🤣
which, again, is what I was answering.
@noodlejetski I’m using mastadon I don’t see the conversation flow like on lemmy.world. time to use jerboa. Try “>” next time to show it’s a quote, the post didn’t read like that.
>Like this
I am using chevrons for quotes in the initial comment.
I would say for Linux to ust use uBO+FF and to not blindly copy terminal commands from the internet or to run random files with root. As many other comments have said there’s clamAV to scan for Windows viruses but since Linux is far less prone to viruses (due to Linux viruses being quite uncommon), I think you’re good without one.
My paranoid me has no concerns in regards to Linux but I am running pyload in an LXC under proxmox to download you know what for my Windows PC.
So before using the files I would like to have them checked.
Therefore I just finished my setup.
Debian 12 LXC unprivileged, running pyload through openvpn tunnel. clamav does daily checks in the download directory and sends me an email if anything is found.
Windows defender is more than enough. On Linux, you don’t need one, but there’s clamAV, which scan for windows viruses.
There are still viruses for Linux to watch out for, but they are much rarer to come by, so I don’t have an antivirus on my Linux machine.
Rootkits?
Rootkits still can exist for Linux, but because there are more Windows users and thus more to be gained from a Windows virus of any sort, it would be pretty hard to find a rootkit for Linux.
In my opinion windows defender is worse than not using an antivirus at all because of the false sense of security. I’m sure that the guy who got his Bitcoin stolen from downloading fake OBS software has windows defender enabled like everybody else.
I’m not suggesting you go out of your way to disable defender, but exercise common sense and good security practices instead of relying on any antivirus. Download software from package managers (winget, scoop, chocolatey) instead of from Google and always read the megathread for getting “other stuff”. Install an adblocker on your browser and block as much 3rd party and Javashit as is practical. Don’t use the administrator account as your main account. Sandbox your programs if you’re feeling extra paranoid. Always back up everything important somewhere else. Use TRON script (r/tronscript) to clean up your computer in case you get infected.
However always keep in mind no strategy is 100% safe, but a little common sense goes a long way.
If we’re talking about common sense, then admitting to getting your bitcoin stolen by downloading fake OBS software probably isn’t the way to start off the comment. That’s not Windows Defender’s fault, that one was all on you, and can happen with most anti-virus if you’re not paying attention to what you’re doing.
Windows Defender is enough. On your web browser you need uBlock origin. This means you need to use Chrome or Firefox as your web browser. *edit: Don’t bother with Chrome. Use Firefox. Someone replied to me with convincing reasons to just skip Chrome altogether.
Edge also supports uBlock Origin, but because it’s Chromium-based it faces the same issues as Chrome regarding Manifest V3.
U can also set Edge to bing as a search engine. Idk if Bing will shut down ad blockers. For me it works fine.
This means you need to use Firefox, Chrome is crippling adblockers.
This person doesn’t seem to know what they’re doing, given the question, so I went for two options. I haven’t been using Chrome. Good call and thanks for correcting me. Google just gets more evil by the day, doesn’t it? I’ll edit my comment. Thanks again.
Yeah there’s a pretty fundamental conflict of interest in an advertising company controlling most of the world’s browsers.
Funny how it started out as a search tool. It used to be handy, even better than Yahoo! LOL
From the 1998 paper titled “The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine” by Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page:
Sounds pretty interesting! Might read a bit more next time when im bored in class
Yeah, that’s why literacy is so important now. Not just literacy, but high levels of literacy, the kind that require a high level of research ability. Otherwise, we have the internet of today, and it will not stop until people start putting value on literacy and critical thinking skills. Today’s average user is just not competent enough to sift through all the trash and find the important stuff. That high school English class that forced you to write a research paper? Didn’t prepare you enough. That high school English class needed to do better. Turn you into a research machine.
Don’t worry, that person also left out the part that Google pushed that particular chrome update out indefinitely.
Remember back in the day when their in-house motto or whatever was literally “do no evil”?
Thanks, your “edit” made me laugh hehe. Im using both, personal firefox and work chrome.
you don’t need antivirus with linux.
there are next to no linux viruses. there is a bit of malware, but mostly targeted at servers. just don’t excessively download and execute random stuff. and don’t type things like “rm -rf /” into your console, if people tell you to. use your package manager where you can.
(most linux antivirus is used in like email-servers to scan mail before sending them out, so the windows clients don’t get infected. antivirus on linux is seldomly/never(?) used to protect the linux itself.)
Also never copy and paste a command line you see online, it can hide nasty things.
And if you don’t understand it and you do find yourself needing to do some terminal stuff chatgpt can be helpful breaking down what is going on.
In my experience the most effective antivirus is common sense
Thx. Thats what I have, but didnt update for a while 🤣
I don’t bother but I do run an online scanner every now and again such as eset antivirus or malwarebytes if I’m feeling paranoid.
I’d also try to memorise every file in my startup but I used to write trojans, password crackers, and other dodgy programs myself when I was teaching myself how to program.
Personally I never went further than dll injection so I might be living in the past. The last virus to wreck one of my systems was pespaces 95 way back in the 95/98 days
I’d say memorising your startup or at least screenshooting it is key.
No.
Just have backups of your data. If i get infected, I wipe and nuke from orbit anyway, I don’t trust that antivirus will remove everything.
I don’t bother but I do run an online scanner every now and again such as eset antivirus or malwarebytes if I’m feeling paranoid.
I’d also try to memorise every file in my startup but I used to write trojans, password crackers, and other dodgy programs myself when I was teaching myself how to program.
Personally I never went further than dll injection so I might be living in the past. The last virus to wreck one of my systems was pespace way back in the 95 days
I’d say memorising your startup or at least screenshooting it is key.
Thx all. Im using ublock and im not clicking random download links, but Ill check virustotal and clamav Cheers
Windows defender has significant protections in place, it’s quite good.