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Moderators don’t “own” the communities they host. They’re just taking responsibility for the space.

The problem is that, as encoded, moderators do “lease” the space from admins. There isn’t a system built into Lemmy where qualified users can demote moderators. Hell, the Lemmy devs implemented Reddit’s ranking based on time seniority.

The only difference between Reddit and Lemmy is that Lemmy admins aren’t held to the policy of relative non interference that Reddit holds itself to.


Afaik there is no issue about this yet

There have been issues with it, with don’t somewhat popular instances becoming ghost towns because of admin actions. Part of the problem is that Lemmy out of the box doesn’t really allow for anything other than one benevolent dictator.

anyway we lack development resources to implement everything

This is open source. There should be a published plan on development and a call for help to the community. If development can’t transfer to a model where multiple groups develop different parts of the development plan, Lemmy isn’t going to be able to grow.


I’m not saying that admins don’t require control. What I’m saying is that there isn’t an ability to distribute admin and mod duties on Lemmy in a more granular sense. There is only one admin head or one mod head and that can lead to mod issues the same that Reddit had.


I feel like relying on benevolent dictators only to run communities isn’t the best option.



But it is.

Lemmy isn’t set up to create a set of fairly moderated communities with buy-in from users. It is set up so anyone can be a dictator on their own server.


I’ve had cases where I got Hexbear dogpiled, so my comment got deleted. However, the mods still kept the dogpiling comments and I was still getting responses because obviously hexbear was brigading.


And it sucks when the address has all of these 9’s in it.


If lemmy has effectively said “go dev it” why hasn’t beehaw paid developers to handle the requests?

Because Beehaw is evaluating whether doing so is a good idea or not, and a lot of that goes into whether Beehaw believes that Lemmy is a platform that can continue to fit its needs. So Beehaw is evaluating several options:

  • Fund development within the Lemmy ecosystem.
  • Fork Lemmy to get full control over development and fund the fork.
  • Design and build a new platform from scratch.
  • Do nothing.

Based on what was written, Beehaw admins seem to be leaning towards option 3 given the current quality of the existing code and lack of confidence in Lemmy devs.

And this kind of high level concept development is typical of organizations when choosing to spend money. It isn’t just a choice between spending money to fund development or not.


I don’t think that Lemmy provides everything that Beehaw wants in a platform, but I also don’t think Lemmy devs have planned out what a federated platform should look like.

But then I don’t see the Beehaw team trying to get around work. They have effectively been told by the dev team to build the resources they want to see on Lemmy, and so they are evaluating whether to put those dev hours into the existing platform or a new one.


It is decentralized in that there isn’t one group of admins, but a set of them across the platform who can run their instances as they see fit.

And you can effectively kick off an instance from Lemmy by mass defederation.


I get why a decentralized model was created; we’ve seen issues pop up with Reddit due to a centralization of power. However, this current implementation of a decentralized system is showing major problems at a fraction of the scale Reddit showed and the devs seem incapable of enacting meaningful change to fix this.


I read it and it sounded like general frustration while trying to be civilized. They laid out the reasons why the platform was failing them while noting things that were within and outside their control. For things outside their control, they listed the thought processes in how to overcome them. I thought they did a good job in communicating their issues.

But my response was to your reaction. You can’t write a critical piece like they wrote without coming off as whiny to a part of the user base.


Yeah. The Reddit migration, small at it was, brought an order of magnitude more people to the platform, and it has shown Lemmy is not ready for prime time. It is also showing that the devs may not be the best at leading this kind of development effort due to inexperience.

Relooking at the idea of the fedeverse may be needed, and the group at Beehaw seem knowledgeable enough on how a Reddit like system should work that they could probably do a better job designing one.


That’s what happens when you criticize something.



That you’re going straight to nuclear at 1 is troubling. You may need to get some professional help for that.


It is a new way communities can work. Before, it was always an outside entity that ran admin. Now, it can be community led instead.

Of course, what that actually means and the drama that can come from that is unique to Lemmy.


If you were a boomer, I can see it making sense. They got a radically subsidized upbringing, decently strong economic protections when starting to work, and generally did ok in that economic system.

Then, when in a position to pay it forward, they said no.


Yeah. It is good for posting accomplishments you do at work and maybe some industry thoughts.


My profession generally encourages a LinkedIn presence. You don’t need to participate, but it helps in people knowing who you are.


He already had a submarine episode.


A lot of people are bad at it, so don’t take it as a personal failing.


Yeah. I was telling someone that Twitch Plays Pokemon is over 9 years old.


A few things:

  1. It is common for people to change in their late 20’s. Goals change, people change. It is fine that you are closer with a different group of people.

  2. You can be friends with people in different industries; you just need to find some sort of common ground. If you can’t find any common ground, then it is common for friendships to drift apart.

  3. A lot of people don’t like being corrected. I get that you want things to be right, but it can be an insufferable personality trait in friendships while it is necessary in your profession. You have to learn when it is ok to let incorrect things go if it won’t hurt anyone.



So sad you can’t watch this in the native Flash it belongs in.


This meme is old enough to drink. If you experienced it live, you’re kind of old.




Scooter Bruan only owns the copyright to the recordings; Taylor owns the copyright to her songs. So, Taylor just has to pay herself.


From reading between the lines of what Taylor has said, it seems like the new ones get played because IHeartRadio would prefer to keep Taylor happy than some skeevy music producer. Why would a major radio or streaming service want to alienate one of the most popular artists to save some money on streaming rights?

Also, a lot of Taylor’s fans are ride or die. I could see them actively choosing their streaming services or radio stations based on what version gets played by default.