due to the previously communicated defamation campaign by quokk.au, which was later followed by defederation by them after we requested them to remove their censure, we have now defederated from quokk.au.
One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.
We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.
If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations.
The ban is completely justified but I think for a different reason. The comment is advocating for a forced one state solution with a Palestinian majority. This is antisemitic and the only people who want this ending hate Jews.
I’m not conflating jews with Zionists. anti Semitism is by definition “hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a cultural, racial, or ethnic group” calling for the destruction of Isreal the Jewish peoples(ethnic group) homeland meets that definition.
Its like if I said let’s destroy Africa and remove all the people and you said whoa dude thats fucked up and anti african then then I said, I’m not being anti African im just against the people living in Africa not all Africans live in Africa you know.
It doesnt make sense to only want to destroy isreal and expect that to be isolated from the rest of the Jews. 99% of Jews are not going to be OK with half their population getting displaced and going back to being a minority population everywhere while its becoming more and more socially acceptance to hate them.
This is so dumb. “no one is calling for the destruction of the jewish people, they were merely calling for the destruction of the place where 50% of jews are currently living but its totally fine because some live in other countries” AND I was talking about ethnicity not religion you muppet. But even if I was purely talking about jews (all inclusive" my statement still stands.
There is a good solution and one state is the worst outcome. We should be pushing for a Palestinian state. Its a longshot since trump is in right now but its the most realistic aim and the best outcome overall.
I’ve already responded to your claims, you’re lying and saying Israel = Jewish people. There’s nothing else much to say there while you hold such a antisemitic view.
As for the question it directly relates. Are you capable of recognizing why dismantling a racist colonial state in favour of self-determination is a beneficial act?
Isreal is a group of ethnically jewish people. Calling for the destruction of a Jewish ethnic group is anti Semitic by definition. It doesnt matter if there are other Jewish groups over seas.
I live in a colonial state, you live in a colonial state. No I do not think “dismantling” a country is a beneficial act. This is how history played out.
Are you hitting me with the “Jews push multi culturalism around the world but not in Isreal” meme that literal nazis use?
There are plenty of non multi cultural places and I dont think thats a reason for them to be destroyed. Secondly i dont think isreal or Jews push multi culturalism on the rest of the world.
No youre not. You said multiculturalism for thee but not for “me” the me being isreal. The EU and US have no relevancy unless youre trying to suggest they’re controlled by isreal.
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The ban is completely justified but I think for a different reason. The comment is advocating for a forced one state solution with a Palestinian majority. This is antisemitic and the only people who want this ending hate Jews.
You realize you’re being antisemitic by equating Zionists with Jews, right?
Most Jews are not zionists. And most Zionists are Christian.
I’m not conflating jews with Zionists. anti Semitism is by definition “hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a cultural, racial, or ethnic group” calling for the destruction of Isreal the Jewish peoples(ethnic group) homeland meets that definition.
Its like if I said let’s destroy Africa and remove all the people and you said whoa dude thats fucked up and anti african then then I said, I’m not being anti African im just against the people living in Africa not all Africans live in Africa you know.
It doesnt make sense to only want to destroy isreal and expect that to be isolated from the rest of the Jews. 99% of Jews are not going to be OK with half their population getting displaced and going back to being a minority population everywhere while its becoming more and more socially acceptance to hate them.
No one was calling for destruction of Jewish people. You are outright lying.
Israel is a state, a political entity.
Jewish people are people, and live in many different states.
The two things are not at all synonymous.
This is so dumb. “no one is calling for the destruction of the jewish people, they were merely calling for the destruction of the place where 50% of jews are currently living but its totally fine because some live in other countries” AND I was talking about ethnicity not religion you muppet. But even if I was purely talking about jews (all inclusive" my statement still stands.
There is a good solution and one state is the worst outcome. We should be pushing for a Palestinian state. Its a longshot since trump is in right now but its the most realistic aim and the best outcome overall.
Why do Zionists always have to warp and distort reality to justify their ethno-nationalism fantasies.
Question, do you think it was good or bad that Rhodesia was replaced by Zimbabwe?
You can’t stand on a single point
I’ve already responded to your claims, you’re lying and saying Israel = Jewish people. There’s nothing else much to say there while you hold such a antisemitic view.
As for the question it directly relates. Are you capable of recognizing why dismantling a racist colonial state in favour of self-determination is a beneficial act?
Isreal is a group of ethnically jewish people. Calling for the destruction of a Jewish ethnic group is anti Semitic by definition. It doesnt matter if there are other Jewish groups over seas.
I live in a colonial state, you live in a colonial state. No I do not think “dismantling” a country is a beneficial act. This is how history played out.
Multiculturalism for thee but not for me 🤡
Are you hitting me with the “Jews push multi culturalism around the world but not in Isreal” meme that literal nazis use?
There are plenty of non multi cultural places and I dont think thats a reason for them to be destroyed. Secondly i dont think isreal or Jews push multi culturalism on the rest of the world.
I am hitting you with: Us and EU regimes been shilling multiculturalism as a good thing for everyone except for Israel, they deserve an ethno state
You made an asinine claim that there can’t be a Multicultural one state solution which is foundational to the current genocide rhetoric
No youre not. You said multiculturalism for thee but not for “me” the me being isreal. The EU and US have no relevancy unless youre trying to suggest they’re controlled by isreal.
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Get a job
Ironic coming from a Tankie
How exactly is that ironic? Seems like you don’t know what that word means
I’ll explain because you are clearly stupid.
Its ironic because tankies are stereotypically unemployed. So there is ironic in seeing them telling other people to get jobs.
Israel is old fiction and needs to be removed from the map. I don’t see the problem with restoring East Palestine and kicking out Zionist scum.
What do you think defines borders?
When zionists ever respectes any borders?