I just read this point in a comment and wanted to bring it to the spotlight.
Meta has practically unlimited resources. They will make access to the fediverse fast with their top tier servers.
As per my understanding this will make small instances less desirable to the common user. And the effects will be:
Meta can and will unethically defedrate from instances which are a theat to them. Which the majority of the population won’t care about, again making the small instances obsolete.
When majority of the content is on the Meta servers they can and will provide fast access to it and unethically slow down access to the content from outside instances. This will be noticeable but cannot be proved, and in the end the common users just won’t care. They will use Threads because its faster.
This is just what i could think of, there are many more ways to be evil. Meta has the best engineers in the world who will figure out more discrete and impactful ways to harm the small instances.
Privacy:
I know they can scrape data from the fediverse right now. That’s not a problem. The problem comes when they launch their own Android / iOS app and collect data about my search and what kind of Camel milk I like.
My thoughts:
I think building our own userbase is better than federating with an evil corp. with unlimited resources and talent which they will use to destroy the federation just to get a few users.
I hope this post reaches the instance admins. The Cons outweigh the Pros in this case.
We couldn’t get the people to use Signal. This is our chance to make a change.
I’m not sure you understand me. What I wanted to say is that if APIs and protocols would be copyrightable, and SCO and Oracle would’ve won their respective lawsuits, the world would look so different (in regards to Free and Open Source Software) I’m not completely sure if Fediverse would be a thing.
I think the solution is for each instance to decide whether to federate with Threads or not.
The only way an attempt to coopt the Fediverse wouldn’t happen world be if the project failed. If this system is going to work, major players will want to participate, and they’ll want to accrue power and dominate over the system. Creating tools to establish boundaries and checks is fundamentally the point, so I think we should all strive to understand and contribute to the development and administration of institutions we like. And if we do that, and also compel our governments to impose regulations on big tech they WILL come up against limits to their power.
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I see your panic and raise you a “what’s the solution?”
Defederate the big corps immediately.
Activity Pub needed to integrate privacy protection into its licence.
At this point there is nothing we can do.
No. That would’ve been a much worse disaster. It is a good thing that APIs and protocols aren’t licensable/copyrightable.
Have fun with a data scraping, corporate run fediverse then.
I’m not sure you understand me. What I wanted to say is that if APIs and protocols would be copyrightable, and SCO and Oracle would’ve won their respective lawsuits, the world would look so different (in regards to Free and Open Source Software) I’m not completely sure if Fediverse would be a thing.
Instead of one with actual police, lesser of two evils
Keep it separate, mass de-federate. The biggest lemmy instance has to make a stance.
Agree unfortunately lemmy.world is refusing to release their position on this.
I anticipate they will federate and I will have to leave.
Meta is dangerous.
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I have opposite take on this. For me, it would be nice to interact with normie friends while we use our favorite service
I’ll raise your “what’s the solution” with a “lets avoid the problem entirely”.
Prevention is better than cure.
I think the solution is for each instance to decide whether to federate with Threads or not.
The only way an attempt to coopt the Fediverse wouldn’t happen world be if the project failed. If this system is going to work, major players will want to participate, and they’ll want to accrue power and dominate over the system. Creating tools to establish boundaries and checks is fundamentally the point, so I think we should all strive to understand and contribute to the development and administration of institutions we like. And if we do that, and also compel our governments to impose regulations on big tech they WILL come up against limits to their power.