On Reddit, my karma was always weighted more on the question side than on the comment side. I felt bad for not being a valuable contributor to people’s lives rather than being selfish and always asking things for myself. Lemmy has gotten rid of that point system so now I feel like I can feel free to ask as many questions as I need without having to balance my karma. Also, I have noticed that I participate so much more on this platform than I ever did on Reddit.

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
-12Y

removed by mod

density
link
fedilink
2
edit-2
2Y

hate to break it to you but you have 1512 reputation points

Favrion
creator
link
fedilink
12Y

Is that good or bad?

density
link
fedilink
22Y

idk it was more karma than I ever had. always toiling away in the comments of less popular subreddits.

Currently I have 1737 rep points. It says I joined a month ago and you joined 3 weeks ago so I think you are beating me by a bit. I guess your strategy is working! :D

maegul (he/they)
link
fedilink
English
22Y

Huh … found myself on kbin and found out I also have reputation points.

I hate it! But, this is kinda the messiness of the fediverse at play. There are a few design/platform things which can only be guaranteed within the bounds of your instance, where beyond that it is kinda the wild west of the internet unless instance defederation is done.

density
link
fedilink
12Y

if you could figure out where the point “live” maybe it would be possible to reset them to 0 on a periodic basis.

maegul (he/they)
link
fedilink
English
12Y

Well, the thing about the fediverse is that things don’t live in one place … they’re distributed across the federation. Right now our comments, which are coming from different instances, are being copied over to each other’s instances and live on both instances, as well as every other instance that subscribes to this community.

Platforms can have agreements about doing certain things like deletion when a request for such a thing is sent out, and then rely on defederating from any platform that contravenes those agreements, which is a method that is both messy, unreliable but surprisingly effective, and also, all we have.

As for karma, it seems kbin is keen on it and lemmy not so much. Forming some agreement about karma calculations being opt-in might make sense now that both platforms have matured in their user base sizes.

maegul (he/they)
link
fedilink
English
12Y
Favrion
creator
link
fedilink
12Y

What strategy? lol

density
link
fedilink
22Y

Trying to contribute more

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
-12Y

removed by mod

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
-12Y

removed by mod

southsamurai
link
fedilink
English
222Y

My problem is that I’m not a poster.

I just don’t think of things and then think “oh, I should share this with the world”. If I have a question, I tend to enjoy the process of finding the answer unless it’s game related, so thinking of crowd sourcing an answer rarely occurs to me.

But! While I’m less likely to run across things on lemmy that trigger my gush button because my interests are niche-ish, I tend to be willing to put in effort into such things.

Same with things that trigger my curiosity; if I don’t have info that’s useful, and I want that info, chances are I’ll come back and share what I find and put effort into it.

Lemmy hasn’t caught up with the population sizes of my niche interests enough for my old drive to help or discover to get triggered often though. It will, I’m sure, but it’ll take time now that a solid user base has formed that will spread awareness of the platform organically.

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
-12Y

removed by mod

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
82Y

Asking questions is valuable to an online community though. People need to ask questions so that others can answer, and plenty of them (often myself included) won’t post questions they have and will just search around hoping someone else already did.

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
12Y

I’ve really enjoyed the questions asked here, and I’ve found the communities feedback to be invaluable.

And not all of those questions have been asked by me.

Max-P
link
fedilink
English
7
edit-2
2Y

Lemmy has gotten rid of that point system so now I feel like I can feel free to ask as many questions as I need without having to balance my karma.

Oh we can totally still see that:

Favrion's Karma

If anything it’s even weirder because I can only see your karma from the perspective of the communities we have in common. So even if you do comment a lot on some other community I’m not part of, you’re very post/question heavy from my perspective.

That aside, think of it this way: nobody can comment if there’s nothing to comment on, and nobody’s gonna ask questions or post things if there’s nobody to answer them. Even lurkers that just vote are important for this kind of ecosystem.

I’m just not a big poster, I rarely have questions, I rarely get so wow’d at content that I want to share it with other people. Well I wouldn’t have any content to look at if it wasn’t for all those people that actual post things, and I wouldn’t have questions to answer or comments to share if there wasn’t anyone to post content.

The number exists, and it doesn’t matter.

Did it even really matter on Reddit? I’ve always thought that post karma was a lot more powerful and much easier to get than comment karma. One good post on Reddit and your post karma explodes, that’s much rarer on comments, you just need lots of comments with like 5 upvotes each to very slowly build up that karma.

Mine for comparison:

My Lemmy Karma

Boy am I sparking some interesting conversations on there huh

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
1
edit-2
2Y

It’s not similar between apps, either, even with the same account. If you’re on Android, you can use Voyager and Connect and it’ll show you different numbers. Another thing is that it fluctuates. I see my “karma” on Voyager is around 14 points now, whereas I made a post comment quite recently where I also checked and I had around 40.

So as a karma system, it’s unreliable enough imho that it’s not gonna (or shouldn’t) affect users as much as reddit’s karma system. It’s also another reason why I decided not to switch to kbin.

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
-12Y

removed by mod

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
-12Y

removed by mod

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
-12Y

removed by mod

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
12Y

I had hundreds of thousands of karma on Reddit. I keep forgetting that’s here too. I stopped caring a while ago anyhow.

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
-12Y

removed by mod

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
22Y

As you can see in the docs there is comment_score and post_score attached to every user. But you can always decide to not care about it, and I strongly recommend that

sj_zero
link
fedilink
452Y

It’s surprising how much just keeping track can mess with behavior, eh?

Favrion
creator
link
fedilink
22Y

I suppose so.

@[email protected]
link
fedilink
English
19
edit-2
2Y

No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it meme

(edit: I don’t know why it wasn’t loading, have now uploaded directly to lemmy)

sj_zero
link
fedilink
22Y

10/10 futurama reference

Create a post

A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it’s related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).

If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to [email protected]!

Rules

  • Posts must be on topic.
  • Be respectful of others.
  • Cite the sources used for graphs and other statistics.
  • Follow the general Lemmy.world rules.

Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy

  • 1 user online
  • 134 users / day
  • 2 users / week
  • 158 users / month
  • 647 users / 6 months
  • 0 subscribers
  • 389 Posts
  • 12.9K Comments
  • Modlog