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Lemmy search isn’t great, or I’m too new, and can’t tell if this has been posted here before.
A warning to those that haven’t looked at this list…. It’s a time vacuum. A “few minutes” of browsing it will translate to hours lost and family members on the verge of reporting you as missing.
In this analogy, GitHub would be the library and the awesome list would be the recommended by the librarian section. If my librarian stopped curating that section and just filled it with a specific type of book no matter the quality I would stop browsing their curated section.
Are you disagreeing with them and saying OP list contains only curated awesome projects?
Do you really need 13 blog platforms? By that point, don’t I have to do another analysis and curation to decide what to use? With the generic descriptions that seem to be copy-paste from the projects descriptions, where’s the descriptive and usefulness-assessment of curation? If one of the 13 is “Extra-awesome, extra-lightweight blog engine.” - why are there even others if it’s “extra awesome”? What does that even mean?
I really just don’t understand why we feel the need to be pedantic on the linguistics of a list of resources someone found to be (subjectively, and inherently) “awesome”
All 13 blog platform could be awesome and you’d want all 13 on the list because while all awesome, they’re awesome in different ways. They each have different workflows even which is something that’s really important to someone writing blogs. Do you want a WYSIWYG editor? Do you prefer Markdown? Do you want a static site generator? All these things are awesome and each fit a distinct use case.
awesome-selhosted maintainer here. This critique comes up often (and I sometimes agree…) but it’s hard to properly “fix”:
Any rule that enforces some kind of “quality” guideline has to be explicitly written to the contribution guidelines to not waste submitters’ (and maintainers) time.
As you can see there are already minimal rules in place (software has to be actively maintained, properly documented, first release must be older than 4 months, must of course be fully Free and Open-source…). Anything more is very hard to word objectively or is plain unfair - in the last 7 years (!) maintaining the list I’ve spent countless hours thinking about it.
For example, rejecting new projects because an existing/already listed one effectively does the same thing would give an unfair advantage to older projects, effectively “locking out” newer ones. Moreover, you will rarely find two projects that have the exact same feature set, workflow, release frequency, technical requirements… and every user has different needs and requirements, so yeah, users of the list are expected to do some research to find the best solution to their particular needs.
This is of course, less true for some categories (why are there so many pastebins??). But again, it’s hard to find clear and objective criteria to determine what deserves to be listed and what does not.
If we started rejecting projects because “I don’t have a need for it” or “I already use a somewhat equivalent solution and am not going to switch”, that would discard 90% of entries in the list (and not necessarily the worst ones). I do check that projects being added are in a “production-ready” state and ask more questions during reviews if needed. But it’s hard to be more selective than we already are, without falling in subjective “I like/I don’t like” reasoning (let’s ban all Nodejs-based projects, npm is horrible and a security liability. Let’s also ban all projects that are so convoluted and impossible to build and install properly that Docker is the only installation option. Follow my thoughts?)
Also, Free Software has always been very fragmented, which is both a strength and a weakness. The list simply reflects that.
Another idea I contemplated is linking each project to a “review” thread for the software in question. But I will not host or moderate such a forum/review board, and it will be heavily brigaded by PR departments looking to promote their companies software.
A HTML version is coming out soon (based on the same data) that will hopefully make the list easier to browse.
I am open to other suggestions, keeping in mind the points above…
250+ self hostable apps
1268 exactly.
You can help cleaning up the list of unmaintained projects by working on this issue
Do you think it’s fair to say that one size does not fit all, so a giant list of self hosted options for people to choose from, is itself awesome?
The benefit of self hosting boils down to being able to make your own choices. Having a full list of options to choose from and make your own decision fits this community better (for better or worse) than someone else curating that thing for you.
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A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don’t control.
Rules:
Be civil: we’re here to support and learn from one another. Insults won’t be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.
No spam posting.
Don’t duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.
Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).
Can we link to this in the selfhosted ‘about’ section (sidebar)?
A warning to those that haven’t looked at this list…. It’s a time vacuum. A “few minutes” of browsing it will translate to hours lost and family members on the verge of reporting you as missing.
Haha! I lost at least an hour this morning. And plan on losing more later…
He’s not kidding. I’ve lost everything!
Found it. Please enjoy!
https://www.voidtools.com/
Haha! I lost at least an hour this morning. And plan on losing more later…
I was already sold, you don’t need to keep pitching more reasons to check it out.
I miss the days when awesome lists were curated to actually have awesome stuff instead of being a list of 250+ self hostable apps.
There is no way these are all awesome. Call it the giant list of self hosted apps or something that actually makes sense.
It’s covers a pretty wide range of topics hence the bigger number…
Either way, would you refuse a library because it had too many books or would you use a searching/organizational system to locate what you want
I would expect an „awesome-books“ list to not include every book ever written.
In this analogy, GitHub would be the library and the awesome list would be the recommended by the librarian section. If my librarian stopped curating that section and just filled it with a specific type of book no matter the quality I would stop browsing their curated section.
If
Again, large size doesn’t necessarily equate to being washed out…
Are you disagreeing with them and saying OP list contains only curated awesome projects?
Do you really need 13 blog platforms? By that point, don’t I have to do another analysis and curation to decide what to use? With the generic descriptions that seem to be copy-paste from the projects descriptions, where’s the descriptive and usefulness-assessment of curation? If one of the 13 is “Extra-awesome, extra-lightweight blog engine.” - why are there even others if it’s “extra awesome”? What does that even mean?
See my reply above (https://lemmy.world/comment/1592102), that’s exactly what is hard to determine objectively.
Yep, you do.
I really just don’t understand why we feel the need to be pedantic on the linguistics of a list of resources someone found to be (subjectively, and inherently) “awesome”
Grumpy cat energy begone
All 13 blog platform could be awesome and you’d want all 13 on the list because while all awesome, they’re awesome in different ways. They each have different workflows even which is something that’s really important to someone writing blogs. Do you want a WYSIWYG editor? Do you prefer Markdown? Do you want a static site generator? All these things are awesome and each fit a distinct use case.
I agree with your point, interesting to see people downvoting without commenting.
awesome-selhosted maintainer here. This critique comes up often (and I sometimes agree…) but it’s hard to properly “fix”:
Any rule that enforces some kind of “quality” guideline has to be explicitly written to the contribution guidelines to not waste submitters’ (and maintainers) time.
As you can see there are already minimal rules in place (software has to be actively maintained, properly documented, first release must be older than 4 months, must of course be fully Free and Open-source…). Anything more is very hard to word objectively or is plain unfair - in the last 7 years (!) maintaining the list I’ve spent countless hours thinking about it.
For example, rejecting new projects because an existing/already listed one effectively does the same thing would give an unfair advantage to older projects, effectively “locking out” newer ones. Moreover, you will rarely find two projects that have the exact same feature set, workflow, release frequency, technical requirements… and every user has different needs and requirements, so yeah, users of the list are expected to do some research to find the best solution to their particular needs.
This is of course, less true for some categories (why are there so many pastebins??). But again, it’s hard to find clear and objective criteria to determine what deserves to be listed and what does not.
If we started rejecting projects because “I don’t have a need for it” or “I already use a somewhat equivalent solution and am not going to switch”, that would discard 90% of entries in the list (and not necessarily the worst ones). I do check that projects being added are in a “production-ready” state and ask more questions during reviews if needed. But it’s hard to be more selective than we already are, without falling in subjective “I like/I don’t like” reasoning (let’s ban all Nodejs-based projects, npm is horrible and a security liability. Let’s also ban all projects that are so convoluted and impossible to build and install properly that Docker is the only installation option. Follow my thoughts?)
Also, Free Software has always been very fragmented, which is both a strength and a weakness. The list simply reflects that.
Another idea I contemplated is linking each project to a “review” thread for the software in question. But I will not host or moderate such a forum/review board, and it will be heavily brigaded by PR departments looking to promote their companies software.
A HTML version is coming out soon (based on the same data) that will hopefully make the list easier to browse.
I am open to other suggestions, keeping in mind the points above…
1268 exactly.
You can help cleaning up the list of unmaintained projects by working on this issue
And a lot of the best options per category are at the bottom of the list.
As I replied above, “best” is subjective.
But yes, alphabetical ordering is not always the most adapted.
Do you think it’s fair to say that one size does not fit all, so a giant list of self hosted options for people to choose from, is itself awesome?
The benefit of self hosting boils down to being able to make your own choices. Having a full list of options to choose from and make your own decision fits this community better (for better or worse) than someone else curating that thing for you.
Missing at least these:
Nice list, but could have more. :)
It’s github. Submit a PR
https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#web-servers -> https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin#web
Listed at https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#dns
This is still a good one to repost because it can otherwise get buried in the mix. I have this site bookmarked.
I wish this had some top picks or „GOAT“ list like the piracy megathread.