Today being the 23rd anniversary of the premiere of Firefly, I am both, doing a rewatch of the series as it aired should have aired, and started a new community for discussion of the show and related spin-off media.
I love Sheperd Book. I don’t think we ever got an explanation for why he had an effectively “no questions asked” pull with the Alliance, and I kind of like that.
I would absolutely have loved more of the show and the world, but some aspects I think are better with no big resolution or explanation. Keeps the series and setting alive in my imagination.
I won’t spoil it here, but there is an explanation if you go searching for it. It has been a long time, but I believe the comic in question was called A Shepherd’s Tale.
I will say that as with most things the mystery is more fun than the truth.
There were apparently several comic book series done in the Firefly universe. I don’t know whether they’re considered canon or what. I have not read them.
Serenity is a line of comic books published by Dark Horse Comics from 2005 to 2017. It is a canonical continuation of Joss Whedon’s Firefly television series and the 2005 film Serenity, which are all part of the Firefly media franchise.[1] It was not an ongoing series; rather, it consisted of a number of miniseries and one-shots, released sporadically.
Starting in 2018, Boom! Studios began publishing its own line of Firefly comics.
Firefly was an ongoing line of comic books published by Boom! Studios from 2018, set in the universe of the Firefly media Franchise. Written by Greg Pak and illustrated by Dan McDaid, this series submerges into the themes of family, loyalty, identity, and redemption focusing on the early experiences of Malcom Reynolds during the war that shaped his future as captain of the Serenity.[1] It is a canonical continuation of Joss Whedon’s Firefly television series, the 2005 film Serenity, and Dark Horse Comics’ Serenity comics, which are all part of the Firefly media franchise.[2]
That might provide more canon material, if you’re on the hunt for some.
Yes, I know of the world community, but since it is devoid of any recent content I would rather start a community on a different instance than having yet another community on world.
rather start a community on a different instance than having yet another community on world
Yeah, moving off-world is great for Lemmy overall. It would be great if we could get a pinned post on [email protected] redirecting folks to [email protected]. Otherwise, new Lemmings who join .world might see the .world community, assume Lemmy has no Firefly userbase, and leave.
The original pilot / first episode, Serenity (not to be confused as the movie of the same name), is an hour and a half long and sets up a ton of context for the rest of the show.
Instead, Fox aired the second episode, The Train Job, as a pilot.
Serenity was ultimately aired as a series finale / 11th episode, the show was cancelled before he three remaining episodes were aired.
If you haven’t seen Firefly, I strongly recommend that you start with the Serenity Episode. You’ll know by the end whether or not this show is for you.
Fox aired the second episode, The Train Job, as a pilot
Okay, yeah, that seems really dumb. When I watched the series (on Disney+), I’m pretty sure Serenity was first. That’s the one that starts with Shepherd Book walking around the shipyard, correct?
Opening scene is the battle of Serenity Valley, it cuts away to the crew collecting illegal salvage and having a close call with the Alliance, they pick up Shephard and Simon as passengers / commuters on Persephone which I think is the scene you’re referring to.
It is weird, I agree. Since I have seen everything multiple times it is not a big deal to me. I will revise my plan in case anyone else is planning to watch with me.
To me, Dollhouse always had a bit of a predatory vibe about it. It almost felt like a “hey, want to know what it feels like to watch a snuff film” vibe…and I don’t mean videos of people simply dying.
The other big 3, Buffy, Angel, Firefly, all felt pretty good to me. Progressive for the time.
Between the Joss factor and the fact that the heroes are obviously based on “lost cause” confederates, who today are all racists hicks, it’s hard to watch now. But it’s soooo well made.
All these years later and I’m still so pissed about how fox handled the show. Truly one of the great injustices of the century.
I still can’t get over how hilarious the scene of Mal fucking with Simon about Kaylee being dead was. The cut to them laughing was so perfect. The editing was so masterful in the show.
Couldn’t let this post go by without posting the “The Ballad of Serenity”. Looks like it’s possible to upload embedded audio-only stuff in posts on Lemmy instances via using an external host; it’ll accept embedded webm with audio.
Hmm. Sorry about that. I can see it in Firefox via your home instance’s Web UI, but it’s possible that there’s some other frontend or client that can’t handle it.
EDIT: The vanilla Web UI for Lemmy and PieFed can handle it. Eternity (Android), Interstellar (Android), mlmym (Web), Photon (Web), Voyager (Web), and Alexandrite (Web) cannot. Mbin (using fedia.io) is missing a ton of comments in this thread, including that one, for whatever reason.
I literally finally started watching it two weeks ago. I thought I maybe wouldn’t enjoy it because it’s been overhyped by everyone online, turns out it’s been hyped just about right, love the show.
Edit: So we actually finished it yesterday! What a shit way to end the series, can’t wait to watch the movie now.
I’ve seen it when I was a kid, though I don’t remember much and I haven’t had any context.
Yeah I like Nathan Fillion and I thought Firefly was pretty good, but I didn’t get the internet hype lol. I didn’t connect as much with the characters and space setting. It’s like Buffy but for boys?? I mean I enjoyed the Whedon writing but was missing all the hotties, the whole high-school-is-hell (being a young adult is hell too!), the supernatural universe, the 90s/Y2K fashion. And of course the lovely Sarah Michelle Gellar😆
When it aired initially I missed a few episodes, I worked an hour away from home and we closed on Friday night the same time it aired. I first saw the 3rd or 4th episode felt kind of lost. Several years later I caught it on sci-fi or something and really got into it.
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I love Sheperd Book. I don’t think we ever got an explanation for why he had an effectively “no questions asked” pull with the Alliance, and I kind of like that.
I would absolutely have loved more of the show and the world, but some aspects I think are better with no big resolution or explanation. Keeps the series and setting alive in my imagination.
I won’t spoil it here, but there is an explanation if you go searching for it. It has been a long time, but I believe the comic in question was called A Shepherd’s Tale.
I will say that as with most things the mystery is more fun than the truth.
There were apparently several comic book series done in the Firefly universe. I don’t know whether they’re considered canon or what. I have not read them.
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Apparently yes.
Wikipedia: Serenity (comics)
Wikipedia: Firefly (Boom! Studios comics)
That might provide more canon material, if you’re on the hunt for some.
How can it be canon to both the show and the movie? The movie wasn’t in the same canon as the show.
How so? I don’t recall any canon breaks, but it has been a long time.
How Simon broke River out is pretty significantly different, that’s the biggest one. A few other small things.
And I refuse to consider “Serenity” canon for other obvious reasons.
The Jubile Early episode is peak television.
Watching that dude on early Law and Order episodes is a joy. He’s an amazing actor.
I was so sad when i watched the last episode (it had been over for a while but i had only recently found the show and binged it). Its so good
There is a movie as well.
I also play a lot of eve online, and the ships engine looks a lot like the capacitor meter in the game 😁
To be fair, that one made me even more sad.
and some pretty great comics
Serenity
You’re aware of [email protected], as you recently posted there. Would you consider consolidating the two communities?
I don’t think that the Firefly Lemmy userbase is large enough or divided enough to necesitate two communities.
Current moderator @[email protected] is AWOL for 2 years.
@[email protected], would you consider transferring [email protected] to @[email protected]?
Yes, I know of the world community, but since it is devoid of any recent content I would rather start a community on a different instance than having yet another community on world.
Yeah, moving off-world is great for Lemmy overall. It would be great if we could get a pinned post on [email protected] redirecting folks to [email protected]. Otherwise, new Lemmings who join .world might see the .world community, assume Lemmy has no Firefly userbase, and leave.
I just crossposted this post there
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I think that’s a different SciFi series…
It most definitely is. But it seemed appropriate here.
Indeed it does.
Uh
As it aired? Boo. That order is weird. Dvd order is better.
What are the differences?
The original pilot / first episode, Serenity (not to be confused as the movie of the same name), is an hour and a half long and sets up a ton of context for the rest of the show.
Instead, Fox aired the second episode, The Train Job, as a pilot.
Serenity was ultimately aired as a series finale / 11th episode, the show was cancelled before he three remaining episodes were aired.
If you haven’t seen Firefly, I strongly recommend that you start with the Serenity Episode. You’ll know by the end whether or not this show is for you.
Okay, yeah, that seems really dumb. When I watched the series (on Disney+), I’m pretty sure Serenity was first. That’s the one that starts with Shepherd Book walking around the shipyard, correct?
That is how it is on Hulu, I wager it is the same on D+
Opening scene is the battle of Serenity Valley, it cuts away to the crew collecting illegal salvage and having a close call with the Alliance, they pick up Shephard and Simon as passengers / commuters on Persephone which I think is the scene you’re referring to.
It is weird, I agree. Since I have seen everything multiple times it is not a big deal to me. I will revise my plan in case anyone else is planning to watch with me.
Just finished up a rewatch the other day actually. God do I love that show. Need to go watch Serenity now I guess.
You are a big damn hero!
Time for some thrilling heroics!
Great show, will forever be stained by joss whedon
What’d he do again?
General all around shitbag, but particularly abusive towards female staff and cast members. There’s some horror stories out there
That’s too bad, I hope he grew as a person since the 90s, I really liked Dr Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog
It won’t, don’t know who this whedon dude is(and don’t care) but their irl actions can’t do anything to the show.
Yeah came to say the same. His shows are forever tainted and I say that as a fan of Buffy, Firefly even Dollhouse.
Everyone used to hype Buffy and the cast had to bite their tongue, now they’re honest about what a nightmare it was working with that creep
To me, Dollhouse always had a bit of a predatory vibe about it. It almost felt like a “hey, want to know what it feels like to watch a snuff film” vibe…and I don’t mean videos of people simply dying.
The other big 3, Buffy, Angel, Firefly, all felt pretty good to me. Progressive for the time.
Between the Joss factor and the fact that the heroes are obviously based on “lost cause” confederates, who today are all racists hicks, it’s hard to watch now. But it’s soooo well made.
It will, but I think of his shows this one bears the least of his stain.
Shiny!
All these years later and I’m still so pissed about how fox handled the show. Truly one of the great injustices of the century.
I still can’t get over how hilarious the scene of Mal fucking with Simon about Kaylee being dead was. The cut to them laughing was so perfect. The editing was so masterful in the show.
Couldn’t let this post go by without posting the “The Ballad of Serenity”. Looks like it’s possible to upload embedded audio-only stuff in posts on Lemmy instances via using an external host; it’ll accept embedded webm with audio.
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This is still my ringtone.
For anyone else that this is not working, https://tidal.com/browse/track/76208807?u
Hmm. Sorry about that. I can see it in Firefox via your home instance’s Web UI, but it’s possible that there’s some other frontend or client that can’t handle it.
EDIT: The vanilla Web UI for Lemmy and PieFed can handle it. Eternity (Android), Interstellar (Android), mlmym (Web), Photon (Web), Voyager (Web), and Alexandrite (Web) cannot. Mbin (using fedia.io) is missing a ton of comments in this thread, including that one, for whatever reason.
I literally finally started watching it two weeks ago. I thought I maybe wouldn’t enjoy it because it’s been overhyped by everyone online, turns out it’s been hyped just about right, love the show.
Edit: So we actually finished it yesterday! What a shit way to end the series, can’t wait to watch the movie now.
I’ve seen it when I was a kid, though I don’t remember much and I haven’t had any context.
Welcome to the ship beratna.
I could never get into it. But everyone I know that’s into it is cool. And Nathan is cool. I’m not sure why it didn’t click with me.
Yeah I like Nathan Fillion and I thought Firefly was pretty good, but I didn’t get the internet hype lol. I didn’t connect as much with the characters and space setting. It’s like Buffy but for boys?? I mean I enjoyed the Whedon writing but was missing all the hotties, the whole high-school-is-hell (being a young adult is hell too!), the supernatural universe, the 90s/Y2K fashion. And of course the lovely Sarah Michelle Gellar😆
Series didn’t click, but I liked Serenity.
Oh yeah, I forgot! I totally agree! The movie was good.
Kind of the opposite for me. I wanted more of the series. Serenity felt a bit forced, like they were trying to cram too much into a movie.
When it aired initially I missed a few episodes, I worked an hour away from home and we closed on Friday night the same time it aired. I first saw the 3rd or 4th episode felt kind of lost. Several years later I caught it on sci-fi or something and really got into it.