Just looking at my list of subscribed communities… There are a lot on lemmy.ml.
They’re toast if Mali yoinks the domain name.
This seems really, really bad for Lemmy…
I also bailed on mas.to, and made my own single-user instance…
If you do use Docker, Mastodon seems to be a prime example of where you shouldn’t use the : latest tag and autoupdate with something like Watchtower.
I initially installed with :latest a few days ago and it gave me 4.1.3 (the actual latest version had been 4.1.4 for quite awhile at that point). I saw other people mention that they “updated” to a 3.x release via :latest recently.
Just setup my own Masto server for myself. My initial thought was, “Crap, I can’t follow anything by hashtag anymore,” since I’m the only user and nothing would get pulled in by federation.
Then I learned about using https://relay.fedi.buzz to create a whole bunch of relays based on hashtags. And now it’s pretty much perfect for how I use it.
My federation feed is just stuff I like, and my server doesn’t get filled with random crap from federating with hundreds of full-ass servers like typical relays give you.
So, this article claims that moderation should be secret, so trolls can’t find sneaky ways to get around it.
But in my opinion, having moderation be completely secret allows moderators to mold the discussion to be exactly what they want it to be. That’s bad when it’s done by big corporations, and it’s also bad when it’s done by a handful of volunteer moderators on a website like Lemmy.
But have you actually tried it? Here’s a sample. Go take a look. (EDIT: My link is worthless unless you are logged in to mas.to. Go look up username [email protected] in your Mastodon client of choice)
It’s a completely unmanageable firehose of comments, spewed only in chronological order.
Honestly, the link between incompatible types of social media like Lemmy and Mastodon could be severed in my opinion, because it’s mostly just novel with little benefit.
It surprises me how many people apparently just dive right into to “All” feed. There’s waaaaayyy too much stuff I really don’t care about getting blasted into my eye-holes doing that.
It’s even more surprising when people claim they view the All feed on Mastodon. I mean… a good chunk of that is just bots barfing data that’s not even remotely related to me.
To me, “All” isn’t much better than letting The Algorithm pick what I read on Twitter/Reddit/Facebook/etc. Gross.
I probably agree. It’s also unlikely, given that the entire reason many of us are here is that Reddit didn’t want anyone having ad-free access to their site.
Unless, they only did it for the express reason to eat Lemmy, then slink back into their hole. I think Lemmy is much more EEE-susceptible than Mastodon.
But it’s literally the one time you’ve done so. Because it’s probably a royal pain to make it happen.
I can technically eat soup with a fork. It won’t be easy… or pretty. Much like I can force Mastodon to happen here on Lemmy.
I’d much rather use a spoon/app that was intended for the purpose I’m using it for.
Honestly, maybe the incompatible protocols should just be severed from each other.
It’s novel that Mastodon can technically talk to Lemmy. But why? It’s such a hassle to make it happen – and the results are so messy.
If you want Mastodon to happen on Lemmy, it just ends up being easier to post a URL to a Mastodon post than it is to try and use the “official” federated methods. Just like people could post a link to a tweet or Facebook post.
Ugh. I thought this whole thing seemed fishy. It was way too quick of a pivot from the lemmy.world Android mods being upset about the new /c barging in and trying to hoover away their members… to them happily handing everything over and closing the doors.
Just goes to show how insidious the behind-the-scenes of Reddit mod drama really is/was. And a shame that it’s just getting dragged over to Lemmy.
Yep. On one hand, I’d be super-concerned if Reddit decided they were federating with Lemmy. Reddit would create /c’s on their instance for all of their /r’s and completely torpedo all of the existing Lemmy communities.
Mastodon is just users though. You don’t generally see users in your feed unless you actively follow them – or if you decide to drink from the firehose and go look at the All feed. And it’s not like Meta can “take over” Mastodon hashtags like Reddit could take over communities. Hashtags are server agnostic.
And unless you sign up on their server, I honestly don’t see how Meta can pilfer more data than they already can by just scraping public servers.
Just please don’t let Meta diddle the ActivityPub protocols. They need to adapt to the protocols. Nobody should be adapting the protocols to them.
I was mostly talking about the direction the comments went in this post.
But yeah, there are multiple calls for .world to defed Threads. And I’m not really sure what that’s even supposed to prevent or accomplish.
On Lemmy, individual people don’t really matter that much. You’re following topics & communities.
You can technically do the same on Mastodon, but the weird stigma people just can’t shake against #hashtags hinders it somewhat. Like it or not, Mastodon/Twitter/Threads-type content – much like email – is very person-focused.
I read it. And one thing I definitely agree is that Meta shouldn’t be allowed to make changes to ActivityPub protocols, themselves, that make it easier for them to do bad stuff.
And while you, personally, might not be inciting the pitchfork mobs, they’re out there. There was a post last night where lemmy.ml announced that they already blocked Threads. People were definitely out to get lemmy.world in those comments for not making the same announcement.
How exactly is Threads going to EEE Lemmy?
I can totally see arguing this re: Mastodon. But there are some serious hoops that need to be jumped through for a user to even be able to see Mastodon-type content as a Lemmy post. Doing Mastodon on Lemmy feels like eating soup with a fork. You can technically do it with enough time and effort, but should you?
Pitchfork mobs going after Lemmy admins because they haven’t already blocked Threads makes me think that maybe the mob doesn’t really know what it is they’re against, besides just “corporations bad”.
My work uses zScaler for its Internet web filters. zScaler has everything *.ml blocked.
So yeah, it’s fairly well-known to be sketchy.