Sweetie

Ew.

Dude. Just fucking stop. This is going way beyond into pretty disgusting territory.

Edited to add: Your “response” is noted. Not into the casual sexism, and I find it extremely odd that you had no idea about goat. Just going to go ahead and save myself the headache now and block.

point is it wasn’t always a dog whistle

It was used to describe indigenous people of Africa and America to promote eugenics (at least to the 19th century).

It was popularized by the Nazis as a specifically far right term, to describe anything that didnt meet Nazi ideals.

When its used to discuss culture (art, religion, etc) or traits of a person (sexuality, race, gender expression, etc), its a really blatant dog whistle.

Like everything, context matters, but it absolutely has been one for a very long time.

Its more that it does effectively nothing.

You don’t even need to run an instance to see vote history. ActivityPub federates all activity across, and lemmy does not obfuscate in any way.

Any real change to address this would have to be done much lower than whether or not lemvotes sees it.

LOL sure thing bud.

… you all do know that goat specifically says they just like riling people up, right?

And you’re just gobbling down the nonsense and getting riled up?

With claims of things that go directly against the rules of the instance?

This is some weird ass shit stirring going on. Enjoy your manufactured drama folks.

Its still extremely visible, that does just about nothing, FYI.

I firmly believe hamid is just using alts these days, so… Give it time?

They might ban you preemptively, actually.

I’m just saying you have a readily available tool at your fingertips, which you could use rather than just complain about the existence of a community you apparently haven’t even seen.

You could just block them you know.

I have no interest in communities dedicated to female celebrities. When they started cropping up, I blocked them (well until I found out it was mostly one user creating the communities and then posting to them, so I just blocked them, but… Same result).

Its pretty easy, about two clicks typically.

I’m fairly certain I don’t need to spend hours investigating individual actions to be a part of the fediverselore community.

So yeah, we can stop right there.

Not the mod, but if you’ve ever down voted with no other interaction, my guess would be that. Or timing of a downvote coinciding with a bunch of others from other accounts, again as a singular downvote.

There is a tool which will coord down votes across multiple accounts, which is helping some trolls - notably the anti-AI trolls mentioned - coordinate mass down votes to try to avoid detection.

I would hope so, but as we know many people dont read past a headline/title.

I’m just sharing how it reads when you put it in quotes. Like if I said:

Boy those people are “smart”

Wouldn’t exactly come across like a compliment. So having it in quotes in the title reads, to me, like you’re being dismissive rather than trying to differentiate users who got caught up, likely due to timing of their downvote, or down votes being their only interactions with a community.

Which, I will point out, takes some effort when its a small community, even on Lemmy.

Except there are plenty who are doing the trolling, and the quotes are dismissive of it entirely. Despite you noting that there are in your other comment.

When did MigratingApe do any anti-AI trolling?

I have no idea, nor do I care to investigate how a mod handles things on a small community.

Here are a few things we do know:

• There are trolls harassing AI comms
• Most of them come through and downvote heavily, or…
• using a readily available tool to coordinate across multiple accounts, mass downvote. Appearing as a single downvote per account.
• Some people mod multiple small communities, and will ban across all of them. Best idea? Eh, maybe not, but its their comm. People can always make another, thats kind of a major point of Lemmy isn’t it?

The fact that there are people, such as yourself, getting so riled up over being banned from a community they claim to not have any interest in is also odd. Why would being banned from a community you dont care about even matter?

But let’s not pretend there aren’t trolls when there clearly are. This also isn’t the first time this sort of thing has happened.

Some people are just shitty. Banning and blocking are handy tools for that.

people are already talking in these comments about a reason to block all of dbzer0 as a result, which I think was exactly the kind of intended response for this to generate.

Probably their goal, yes.

except that it was made by one of the trolls

Yep, I’m aware of the posts, I just wanted to point out two things - that they were deleted so no longer a good reference, and the quotes around anti-AI trolls - which as you say, there absolutely are, and were in that original thread you linked - comes across as dismissing the idea that they exist.

The latest anti-AI alt made purely to harass Mystic seems to be banned and their content removed, so the links are broken, FYI.

Edit: Also your quotes around anti-AI trolls - which they literally are - is definitely putting a spin on the reality here. Makes me think your ban was entirely appropriate.

Nonstop

That account is only a few hours old though, so seems a bit fishy.

Seems like a brand new account, might be someone pretending to be them? Idk.

This is a person who was totally fine with marginalized people getting hurt or worse.

Don’t waste sympathy on someone like that.

Hamid is just an asswipe, there are no good reasons to be concerned with.

Good riddance.

Also LOL.

Yup, also mentioned in those threads (pretty much all of them I’ve seen that aren’t on .ml).

Piefed being the most often mentioned.

The context of the post is 2 days ago, in a post about Lemmy dev being in need of donations.

Many people have expressed their lack of interest in supporting the devs, due to transphobia and other issues.

So its not so much drama from 9 months ago (reference/link text of post) as it is the continuation as seen in a post 2 days ago (image shown in this post).

I had no idea that was built into piefed, that’s great!

App-based is… Not great IMO, it needs to be part of the base or its just not viable.

Honestly I think this speaks to the value of having user-level blocking of instances rather than defederation. Maybe one day that will be incorporated into Lemmy (or similar).

Holy crap!

Some of those comments could seem like an extreme joke of conservative beliefs, but when you take the rest of the comments they actually believe it - that’s a terrifying level of far right nutso.

Look in the general direction of the same gender?

Believe it or not, also gay.

Well, spoke to soon. I was banned for being ‘uncivil’ on the .world vegan community for calling out this same behavior, and hoping the community ended up somewhere other than on that particular instance.

Sooo… yeah I’m keeping the block. Maybe expanding to some mods there would be sensible.

Edit: There, all set now.

I’ll have to unblock, so I can do that later on, sure. Working so not paying much attention to Lemmy at the moment.

Edit: Sorry, my mistake, not a mod. An admin on the instance recommended / linked to in the side bar.

When some of those mods are perfectly fine with lgbtq persecution, and make it out like vegans have it worse, or dont care because they wouldn’t have to see it personally…

I’m just going to go ahead and consider it a toxic shithole. Worst part? Different mod, but they seem to be all over the same vegan communities, so none of them become worthwhile.

I personally don’t care if they ban me since I’ve blocked the communities anyway. Just unfortunate as I really enjoy seeing some of the recipes, as there are a decent number of them that are gluten free (which I need to be).