If you scroll down to about a day ago, you might be able to observe an emerging behavior from this mod.
EDIT 2: The mod in question moderates a total of 108 Lemmy communities. How deep does this conspiracy run? Is this mod a lost Redditor? More to come!
EDIT 3: The mod has now removed my comment all together, one might assume because it was still receiving upvotes in the 2 hours following my ban. Are there similarities here to Watergate? You be the judge!
EDIT 4: The mod in question has now been removed as a mod of the [email protected] community, as a result of their abuse of power.
EDIT 5: This will be my final update, since as far as I see it, the issue this thread focuses on has been resolved. To quote Beaver herself in a very ironic comment she made directed towards someone else:
It’s also hilarious how they thought they could just ban an instance admin, and when it didn’t work call it abuse.
If you consult the modlog, you can see a point during the hubris at which the mod in question was removed as a mod from the community. It is suspicious, and might suggest they were a mod deemed to be spreading misinformation.
Also they made a post which was being openly hostile to Lemmy.world’s mods, I mean what the fuck?
Yeah that mod was a real piece of work, it’s probably for the best that one of the other mods removed her and her alts from the community, and also is in the process of reversing their malicious actions.
Corpse muncher is a good one. Blood mouth is another. I’ve heard something about cadaver as well, maybe cadaver eater? Can’t remember.
Seriously how fucking old are you (the silly vegans, not the person in replying to, I didnt make that clear)? Does that ever work? It’s just so ridiculously childish and funny.
They always make me laugh because it reminds me of a kid on a playground not really knowing how to throw curse words so comeing up with something like, “poopie buttface!”
Sorry that wasn’t directed at you. The “you” in my rhetorical question was the silly vegan extremists, not you. That was not clear. Go ahead and claim the word and make dinosaur noises. It makes their silliness even funnier and takes away all their power.
EDIT 2: The mod in question moderates a total of 108 Lemmy communities. How deep does this conspiracy run? Is this mod a lost Redditor? More to come!
What was the name of that mod on reddit with 5k communities? I remember they were very well known, but it’s been a long time since having an account there.
It sounds crazy to hear someone mods 5k communities or 108 until you put eyes on them and realize most are dead, functionally dead, or memes. I modded 100+ subreddits on reddit when I was there, the drop in population after about the fifth was massive. After about 15 or so we were at truly inconsequential populations.
I do wonder however if it suggests things about a person, that they moderate that many communities. For instance, is it indicative of power seeking behavior?
Oh boy, it looks like they’re posting the “you should feed your obligate carnivorous pets a fully vegan diet” garbage again.
Edit:
Trying to paint your special diet group as a minority group is kinda fucking offensive. People get murdered, raped, beaten, abused, fired, divorced, jailed, tortured, sent to re-education camps, and so on, for being black, or LGBT, or Hispanic, or Muslim, or whatever. Vegans though? No. Unlike the other examples, vegans don’t get murdered for something you were born with; they don’t have entire continents who want to murder them. They just get ridiculed, and tbh, nowadays most of the ridicule is due to their garbage attitudes and nothing to do with the diet itself.
I was curious, so I had a look, seems like it still leads to violence in some occurences
A Florida man was recently arrested for allegedly stabbing his cousin after a heated debate about whether whole cow’s milk or almond milk is superior.
The debate over whether to consume animal products, like meat and dairy, or go entirely plant-based (vegan) is a hot-button issue, often filled with vitriol and name-calling online and in real life.
I don’t think that counts as targeted hate crime or whatever. He wasn’t stabbed for veganism, he was stabbed from the heated argument, which by trigger happy dumbos like these could have been about anything.
Yeah, but c’mon, that’s Floridaman. He’s a meth head who’d murder someone because he wanted to fuck an alligator and thought he needed a human sacrifice to do it.
I’m not a vegan or even a vegetarian, but even I can see that my vegetarian friends get questioned uncomfortably all the time for their diet choice. When you do something differently, you inevitably get bullied.
I used to be a vegetarian for a decade and then a pescetarian before apathy fully set in and I saw how pointless it all is.
Vegans and vegetarians can be some of the most judgemental gatekeeping assholes out there. Many of them aren’t, but the ones that are militant and overbearing are the worst and only push others from their cause. Those ones desperately want to feel better than others, so become borderline eating disordered to elevate themselves to some holy god level in their minds because they eat beans and lentils.
They aren’t in the same class as minorities. They choose to eat the diet they do. And no one can visibly tell they are vegetarian/vegan until they tell others they are.
They are not in the same situation as minorities, but if they stay true to their ideals, they get bullied just like minorities. The fact there are assholes among them just like in any other group of people changes nothing.
Getting bullied is not the same as being a “MINORITY”. White kids who are not minorities in North America but get bullied all the time in school.
Not eating flesh of a mammal or fish etc doesn’t mean you are a “minority”. Like I said, I’ve experienced life as a veggie. Is it annoying? The stupid questions, the comments people make? Yes. But I’ve never had a cop pull me over and worry about whether I’ll die that day because I don’t eat beef. Or worry, walking down the street, alone at night as a single woman, if I’ll be assaulted because I don’t eat chicken. Non-meat-eaters aren’t minorities in the sense that they are discriminated against in the idea that the word “minority” conjures up.
They deal with, at most, someone tricking them into eating meat. Which I’ve had done. It felt violating and offensive but wasn’t any sort of level as someone who is an actual “minority” in our continent.
As I think about it though, the word minority now mosty means an ethnical minority. But when mentioning women - although discriminated against, they’re not a minority in the original sense at all - there is usually the same number of women and men, the problems lie elsewhere. In this sense of the word, vegans are a minority in our society. They could be compared to religious minorities, I guess. It’s a choice, but a choice based on ethical foundations, so going against this choice is unthinkable for those people without being untrue to themselves and betraying what they believe in.
Okay, I can really understand what you are trying to say.
I feel like there needs to be a different or new word for this kind of experience maybe? Because choosing to abstain from a food group or what have you doesn’t make your minority in the sense most of us think of, even if it’s technically correct. And we don’t want to minimize what true minorities go through when our food choices in this case our truly our own choice.
But it is definitely a different experience when someone finds out you choose not to eat the type of food they do. They take it so personally you are not eating meat. I actually had the same issues when I was doing Atkins ages ago, which is mostly protein based. People questioning my food choices because it wasn’t what they they eat and they took it as a personal judgement against them.
The modlog should at least contain an identifier of the mod. Maybe not a link to their account but something that can be tracked across communities. To see who is abusing their power.
I’m pretty it’s Beaver. I’m now banned (and I appear to be blocked by Beaver as well) and I’m pretty sure the only recent direct interaction I’ve had with the community was downvoting the recent articles about how vegan diets are okay for carnivorous pets.
Modlog does contain the info, it’s just not displayed on the website. You can get the full data from lemmy API
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Nice… thanks. I had indeed just checked the website. I think it should then just be on the website. Especially if they are exposing votes then open this up too.
Most people aren’t vegan, so vegans are a minority. That’s not difficult to understand, so we have to assume you’re reading in bad faith. Stop it please.
Edit: veganism isn’t a diet either. Quite easy to find this out if you even stick the word into a search engine.
This might be a language barrier thing, but in most english-speaking countries when you use the term “minority” to refer to a group of people, that typically refers to a group who is a minority based on race, sex, ethnicity, gender or some other inherent trait. You might say, “a small community” to refer to a group within a group, but you wouldn’t say, “a minority community” for that unless you were trying to imply that the community in question was a racial, ethnic, gender, or other form of minority.
While you have a point, my immediate reaction was, “oh cool, now they’re trying to do it too” (I’ve seen tankies claim the same shit). When I probe my brain to try and figure out why that was a response, the result is my brain telling me that I’m hearing some kind of dog whistle but it won’t go into more detail about what makes that statement sound like a dog whistle.
Tbh, considering how unhinged they’re behaving (though at this point I think they’re doing it for shits and giggles), I wouldn’t be surprised if they truly meant it that way; it honestly wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen someone on here try to claim something like that. I suppose that doesn’t mean they intended to mean it that way, now I’m curious if anyone else had a similar interpretation. I’m used to hearing people referring to racial, or gender, or ethnic minorities when they say something like, “I’m part of a misunderstood minority group”; and I know I’ve heard people from other english-speaking countries (other than the US) do it as well.
I have seen the word used in both ways, though I think that in this case the user was intending to use it to imply oppression, rather than simply meaning that they do not have a lot of users.
No, English is my first language, and all I’m saying is that you could’ve interpreted it the other way, which is plausible at the end of the day, and it’d be true, which is what it means to read something charitably/in good faith.
There are certainly vegan diets. People who still eat animal produce may still be interested in vegan alternatives without becoming vegan or vegetarian. And I don’t think being part of a small community of a certain life choice isn’t really making you a minority in the political sense (I assume that’s what the minority part is trying to imply here, that there’s some sort of entitlement for a minority protection).
Also, promoting vegan diets for carnivorous pets is indeed animal abuse and should not be defended or promoted. That’s typically a telltale sign of veganazis, which are generally a terrible thing even for actual vegans as they put the whole lifestyle into a bad light with their overly aggressive rhetoric and disinformation.
Yes, and there are Muslim diets I’m sure, but Islam isn’t a diet either, for example. Just stick “veganism” into your search engine of choice and the credible sources won’t call it a diet.
And I don’t think being part of a small community of a certain life choice isn’t really making you a minority in the political sense
I’m arguing that they may not have meant that. The criticism should be “that’s clumsy wording because it sounds like you mean minority in a political sense” or “surely you don’t mean…” rather than “you’re comparing yourself to (minorities in the political sense) and therefore vegans are bad”.
Also, …
Honestly, I suspect your willingness to assume the worst of what a vegan’s said, and that you bring up a minority view even amongst vegans out of context, betrays a prejudgment that plays as much, if not more, of a role as how aggressively some vegans argue in how you’re approaching the whole thing.
Yes, and there are Muslim diets I’m sure, but Islam isn’t a diet either, for example. Just stick “veganism” into your search engine of choice and the credible sources won’t call it a diet.
And there’s surely people who are looking for traditional Muslim food without wanting to convert to Islam as well. Muslim’s would probably treat people curious about their food less hostile than those vegans would.
I suspect your willingness to assume the worst of what a vegan’s said
You can suspect that I assume the worst of any sort of human, especially when they constantly argue in bad faith and with hostile rhetoric. That being said, I don’t approach vegans at all. I just observe the constant self righteous shit flinging they do from the outside, or get unwillingly caught up in it because they can’t help but attack people even outside of their little radicalized bubbles.
But then you’re willingly admitting that you don’t speak to enough vegans to have an informed idea of their ethos, which is something I wouldn’t readily admit even if I did it. Not sure what your first point has to do with the matter at hand though.
Not speaking to veganazis isn’t the same as not speaking to vegans. Normal vegans I have no issues talking to.
My first point is about the community that’s about vegan food shunning those interested in vegan food because they’re unwilling to talk to people who eat animal produce.
I think you’re going on a bit of a tangent I’m not interested in, sorry, but otherwise I’m not really following, and if you say things like “veganazis” it just reminds me of when people used to write “feminazis”.
To put the shoe on the other foot, how would it sound to you if someone on the Carnivore diet, or on the Atkins diet called themselves a minority?
It just doesn’t make sense, because dietary choices, are just that, choices. While actual minorities, like POCs and LGBTQ people, are born the way they are. They don’t have any choices in the matter.
Don’t get me wrong, dietary choices can be a super serious matter, and I am not saying that people aren’t discriminated against for them. I just think its wrong to call someone a minority based on any sort of dietary choice, at least in the same context that minority is usually used.
Religion, by itself, is normally not a qualifier when we refer to minorites, as that word normally implies an ethnic or racial minority. However, there are some religions with ethnicities tied to them, e.g. Jewish people, and Muslims, so the line can definitely become a bit blurred.
Jewish people are a minority in most places because of their ethnicity, not their religion. Muslims are often referred to as minorities in most places, because most Muslims are ethnically related, at least as far as the Western world is concerned.
Some also reuse the word minority interchangably to refer to religious minorities, political minorities, etc, which further blurs the line, but the most common use of the word is in reference to race or ethnicity.
Again, veganism isn’t a diet (this is painfully easy to find out if you just quickly look it up!) and if you interpret minority in a literal sense, it’s true and relevant because it’s easy to be overwhelmed by the majority if you’re in the minority, which is what the person posting seems to be worried about.
I understand that Veganism is more than just a diet. Its a lifestyle, culture, pledge to a certain set of morals, etc. It can be as important as religion is to a devout religious person.
A person on the Carnivore diet can make the same point. A person that subscribes to a political identity could also make your same point. This slippery slope leads to Nazis being able to call themselves minorities, because technically, Naziism is a culture, too, albeit a terrible one, and they are very thankfully in the minority of political beliefs.
Yeah I’m not vegan, but if vegans want to be insufferable in vegan spaces I think that’s ok. That’s where it’s supposed to be. If you want to be anti vegan in those spaces you’re an asshole for it
Which Hamid has made just as bad as beaver did here, but I guess at least he’s transparent about ban hammering and comment removals. He’s insufferable and is the instance mod, not just community mod.
It is starting to look like the only place a vegan community mushroom can grow and flourish is on an even bigger pile of shit. It’s a little crass to say, but it ought to tell you something when the most defederated and blocked instances is where your group hangs out.
I just want to read vegan recipes and see like minded people discuss a topic in a civilized way, you know, like basically every other community.
Yeah being around tankies just isn’t worth it, also it’s not like you’ll escape this kind of drama there anyway, they likely have drama this bad or worse there.
It’s one of those things where once you go full jerk, it gets attention. Unavoidable really, unless instance admins want to totally ban “drama” communities, which would just end up as posts on instances that don’t ban drama communities :)
Preemptive banning is a perfect example of prime drama.
For the record, I think you contribute a lot to Lemmy, and I really appreciate it. OP’s being melodramatic because blocking a community chock full of content they’d rather not see on their personalized feed (and isn’t hateful, illegal, etc.) isn’t good enough for them. I guess they also need to troll and police different perspectives and how many posts they comprise on this great fedi platform. That’s good for Lemmy /s. Someone should post a PSA about blocking communities that don’t break rules but just aren’t one’s cup of tea. The behaviour helps Lemmy grow and stay diverse. For similar reasons, lemmynsfw (ie, the main porn/adult instance) removed downvotes: because minority communities (eg, rarer kinks) were being downvoted into oblivion - stifling growth and frustrating community members and mods - by people downvoting stuff they didn’t like on their feed versus blocking it
I wanna add that I like your community, I like how you stood up to that rogue admin, I like when you annoy carnists, I like your ban of OP, and I also like that c/fediverselore has posts like this. This community is a tool for calling out mod decisions, and some of those decisions will be good ones that don’t need calling out. It’s still better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
I mean, it is a valid point to be brought up. A year ago when I joined Lemmy, one of the first advices I’ve read for new people starting out is to block communities they don’t want to see posts from - for whatever reason it may be.
What happened to that stance? I feel like if it were any other subject than veganism, people wouldn’t bat an eye. I’m not out here arguing that being vegan is like being part of a minority, but there sure as hell is a lot of vegan bashing on reddit. On Lemmy too, it seems
There’s also voting to voice what you want to see in a community. If you block every community that has content you don’t like, there won’t be anything left.
I see what you mean. However, I think downvoting to curate a community’s contents shows that you are an active participant in the community which many of the people who drive-by downvote usually aren’t
The memes we’re referring to seem to have resulted in an increase in moderation action. Is this inadvertent, or were the posts intended to drive up or surface critical commentary?
Do you have examples? That modlog is a bit busy as you know, I’m not going to go through it
And what’s the problem with voting on public posts on a public forum?
What’s the problem with banning on a public forum?
There was a post yesterday about vote manipulation by bots (https://feddit.org/post/2795018 ), if people just downvote the vegan content without contributing, it’s not that far from that.
Or maybe it just comes from them seeing downvotes as “non relevant to the community” and not “disagree”, hence getting rid of people who use it the other way.
I’m really not sure to get why it’s such a big deal. You got banned from a small community on Lemmy.
Were you going to participate to this type of community? Then create another one and post there, if yours is better moderated, people will come to yours (my experience in the past on a different topic)
Were you not going to engage with that type of content? Then move on. I’m not interested in US politics, if all the US politics communities would ban me that would be fine, I would just move on.
It’s not the vegan posts people are down voting, but there’s been a huge amount of “memes” that do not contribute to the vegan discussion but just try to divide the community
They are probably trying to identify people who would rather downvote or post cheeky comments (see OP) rather than block the community, or not interact with it
Most people only interact with votes; not comments. If the rule is “No downvoting” make it an official rule and stop banning people under the pretense of breaking rule 5.
With the current thread on [email protected] how “communities should allow everyone to interact if they are not private”, the likelihood of someone else creating the same thread as this one with “look at those authoritarian mods who ban everyone” is quite high
At this point we should turn Rule 5 into it’s own joke. Bad vibes? Rule 5. I don’t like you? Rule 5. I’m having a bad day? Rule 5. The great servers need a sacrifice? Rule 5. Bitching about Rule 5? Believe it or not, Rule 5.
Justified ban imo. You weren’t there to discuss veganism as a vegan, you were there for drama. It’s not spam when they make a lot of posts to their own community. Unless the content is hateful, the correct response is to block.
It’s not spam when they make a lot of posts to their own community.
I disagree. I see this often from lemmynsfw or various meme communities where some users tend to just dump 5-10 or even more threads. Neither Lemmy nor mbin really uses algorithms to prevent communities from showing up more than once, so you’ll always get the full load of those submissions spammed into your feed.
And no, blocking the entire community is not a valid solution when you do not inherently disagree with it.
What I mean to say is I didn’t enjoy a stay. My comment was made in a manner I would have made in any other community that popped up on All, that was serving up terrible meme after terrible meme. I wasn’t there to do anything.
If you were never a member of the community, then you’ve lost nothing from being banned, and the mod was right to decide that your comment wasn’t a good faith contribution from a member of the community.
Increasingly I believe communities should be able to hide from All. I step into places without realizing it too. They want an echo bunker, not a public sidewalk
To expand:
c/veganism isn’t actually a place to discuss the merits or news about vegan topics, or recipes.
It’s a place for vegans, and only vegans, to share likeminded opinions on their world view. This is not unique to this community.
Being a non vegan, and sharing a non vegan opinion there is not what they want. They find it offensive, and nearly bannable in general.
Ultimately, that’s ok, it’s their community.
The problem comes in when their posts land on All, where anyone sees it and feels invited to read and comment and vote. (Which I believe they are). So a mechanism to keep them off All would be useful to discourage people “walking by”
And I would say with such a rule, places shouldn’t have a rule 5 style rule AND be found on All. It should be either or. If you expose yourself to the public (to expand traffic), you.have to be thick skinned enough to handle public banter, which will not align with the community core.
I’m interested and I’m cutting down on animal sourced food, but they are aggressive, ignorant and overall annoying, so I blocked them some days ago. I’m not sure what their goal is. Gatekeeping veganism so that nobody considers it?
There are plenty of other spaces where vegans can respond to “plants feel pain” and “but what about lions” a million times a day, but that gets old pretty quick. The goal is to have a space where vegans can just interact amongst themselves, which necessarily requires some degree of gatekeeping
Then shouldn’t their space be private, so they don’t show up on all? They are begging for downvotes with how nasty their memes are. I understand their point, but i am sure that my understanding is much better reserved for non jerks.
I don’t know, don’t have an instance. If it’s not just an option to still be federated but to opt out of having community posts being featured in all then maybe they should defederate with all of the other ones so they can post terrible things about the people they hate behind everyone else’s backs. Or they can just accept that when someone (even a mod) posts something antagonistic, it’s going to get down votes.
I seriously doubt that vegan posts showing off durian jerky, or even posts about how long cows could live if the meat industry didn’t slaughter them at peak profit efficiency, would be downvoted that much.
I understand what you’re saying, but I still think they could do without being such assholes about it. But I don’t have to interact with them and blocking is easy, so be it what it is.
I’m not sure if you saw the recent community update, but things have died down at /c/vegan. Up to you, but posts will probably be leaning more informative and less antagonistic now that the situation has been resolved.
The users at lemmy.world basically already drove the mods in that community to suggest vegan communities on other instances to basically not have to put up with the rest of lemmy.world. It’s a dead community walking and the whole ordeal convinced me to block .world. I’ve seen less content, but damn has my experience on Lemmy gotten a whole lot better.
You’ll probably never see this, but I applaud you. Isn’t that the whole point of the fediverse? You can control who and what you see, and if you ever change your mind you can easily undo it. (And I get it, everybody needs a safe space sometimes.)
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]
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The poster must have a credible post and comment history before submitting a piece of history. This is to avoid sock-puppetry and witch hunts.
The usual instance-wide rules also apply.
Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)
Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.
Includes lore like how a instance got it’s name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc
(New) This sub’s intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don’t get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama
Now I’m wondering if all the other drama surrounding her was actually her fault…
Good job assassinating your own character, I guess, Beavs.
meatsplained lmao
It’s also hilarious how they thought they could just ban an instance admin, and when it didn’t work call it abuse.
If you consult the modlog, you can see a point during the hubris at which the mod in question was removed as a mod from the community. It is suspicious, and might suggest they were a mod deemed to be spreading misinformation.
Also they made a post which was being openly hostile to Lemmy.world’s mods, I mean what the fuck?
Yeah that mod was a real piece of work, it’s probably for the best that one of the other mods removed her and her alts from the community, and also is in the process of reversing their malicious actions.
I unironically love the terms “meatsplained” and especially “carnist.”
On my next date I’ma say: “I’m a Carnist… RAWR” and then click my teeth. Clear test for taking or leaving.(edit: this was a stupid thing to say.)Corpse muncher is a good one. Blood mouth is another. I’ve heard something about cadaver as well, maybe cadaver eater? Can’t remember.
Seriously how fucking old are you (the silly vegans, not the person in replying to, I didnt make that clear)? Does that ever work? It’s just so ridiculously childish and funny.
Carnist Bloodmouth sounds like an Ork name.
They always make me laugh because it reminds me of a kid on a playground not really knowing how to throw curse words so comeing up with something like, “poopie buttface!”
They so damned silly.
You’re right, I’m honestly embarassed.
Sorry that wasn’t directed at you. The “you” in my rhetorical question was the silly vegan extremists, not you. That was not clear. Go ahead and claim the word and make dinosaur noises. It makes their silliness even funnier and takes away all their power.
You’d be surprised how often that happens when people find out you don’t eat meat.
It’s, like, a lot.
oh, good point… OK I won’t do it, thanks for the tip!
Correction: it was silly, and so I loved it 😂 (Maybe I misunderstood, I just wanted to advocate for it being okay to be silly:-)
Buffy or Firefly?
What was the name of that mod on reddit with 5k communities? I remember they were very well known, but it’s been a long time since having an account there.
They’re not worth mentioning
I do not recall, but they must have received a very large paycheck each month!
IIRC it was more that they paid to be a mod. Someone had money to burn.
Could have been any of a few dozen.
That being said, there were a couple that were automod only mods. They’d get added to help set up and maintain automod, and never do anything else.
It sounds crazy to hear someone mods 5k communities or 108 until you put eyes on them and realize most are dead, functionally dead, or memes. I modded 100+ subreddits on reddit when I was there, the drop in population after about the fifth was massive. After about 15 or so we were at truly inconsequential populations.
I do wonder however if it suggests things about a person, that they moderate that many communities. For instance, is it indicative of power seeking behavior?
Oh boy, it looks like they’re posting the “you should feed your obligate carnivorous pets a fully vegan diet” garbage again.
Edit:
Trying to paint your special diet group as a minority group is kinda fucking offensive. People get murdered, raped, beaten, abused, fired, divorced, jailed, tortured, sent to re-education camps, and so on, for being black, or LGBT, or Hispanic, or Muslim, or whatever. Vegans though? No. Unlike the other examples, vegans don’t get murdered for something you were born with; they don’t have entire continents who want to murder them. They just get ridiculed, and tbh, nowadays most of the ridicule is due to their garbage attitudes and nothing to do with the diet itself.
I was curious, so I had a look, seems like it still leads to violence in some occurences
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-do-angry-vegans-meat-eaters-fight-so-much-2020-2?op=1
I don’t think that counts as targeted hate crime or whatever. He wasn’t stabbed for veganism, he was stabbed from the heated argument, which by trigger happy dumbos like these could have been about anything.
Yeah, but c’mon, that’s Floridaman. He’s a meth head who’d murder someone because he wanted to fuck an alligator and thought he needed a human sacrifice to do it.
Whoa now! Don’t tarnish the good name of alligator fuckers like that!
Alligator lovers
Hey, the lovers are okay in my book too
Yeah vegans should not consider themselves as a minority.
The ANIMALS are the minority group. Not YOU. The entitlement speaks to an ego trip and is a vicious representation of the cause.
They should have their platform removed because they are hurting the image of the vegan movement
This is coming from a vegan btw
relevant xkcd
To be fair, minority in the sense that there is a power imbalance between us humans, the majority, and domesticated animals, the minority.
I’m not a vegan or even a vegetarian, but even I can see that my vegetarian friends get questioned uncomfortably all the time for their diet choice. When you do something differently, you inevitably get bullied.
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I used to be a vegetarian for a decade and then a pescetarian before apathy fully set in and I saw how pointless it all is.
Vegans and vegetarians can be some of the most judgemental gatekeeping assholes out there. Many of them aren’t, but the ones that are militant and overbearing are the worst and only push others from their cause. Those ones desperately want to feel better than others, so become borderline eating disordered to elevate themselves to some holy god level in their minds because they eat beans and lentils.
They aren’t in the same class as minorities. They choose to eat the diet they do. And no one can visibly tell they are vegetarian/vegan until they tell others they are.
They are not in the same situation as minorities, but if they stay true to their ideals, they get bullied just like minorities. The fact there are assholes among them just like in any other group of people changes nothing.
Getting bullied is not the same as being a “MINORITY”. White kids who are not minorities in North America but get bullied all the time in school. Not eating flesh of a mammal or fish etc doesn’t mean you are a “minority”. Like I said, I’ve experienced life as a veggie. Is it annoying? The stupid questions, the comments people make? Yes. But I’ve never had a cop pull me over and worry about whether I’ll die that day because I don’t eat beef. Or worry, walking down the street, alone at night as a single woman, if I’ll be assaulted because I don’t eat chicken. Non-meat-eaters aren’t minorities in the sense that they are discriminated against in the idea that the word “minority” conjures up. They deal with, at most, someone tricking them into eating meat. Which I’ve had done. It felt violating and offensive but wasn’t any sort of level as someone who is an actual “minority” in our continent.
I didn’t want to say it was the same. Just that they do get bullied.
Yeah sorry if I got a bit heated in my response. Maybe I misunderstood your point.
As I think about it though, the word minority now mosty means an ethnical minority. But when mentioning women - although discriminated against, they’re not a minority in the original sense at all - there is usually the same number of women and men, the problems lie elsewhere. In this sense of the word, vegans are a minority in our society. They could be compared to religious minorities, I guess. It’s a choice, but a choice based on ethical foundations, so going against this choice is unthinkable for those people without being untrue to themselves and betraying what they believe in.
Okay, I can really understand what you are trying to say. I feel like there needs to be a different or new word for this kind of experience maybe? Because choosing to abstain from a food group or what have you doesn’t make your minority in the sense most of us think of, even if it’s technically correct. And we don’t want to minimize what true minorities go through when our food choices in this case our truly our own choice. But it is definitely a different experience when someone finds out you choose not to eat the type of food they do. They take it so personally you are not eating meat. I actually had the same issues when I was doing Atkins ages ago, which is mostly protein based. People questioning my food choices because it wasn’t what they they eat and they took it as a personal judgement against them.
The modlog should at least contain an identifier of the mod. Maybe not a link to their account but something that can be tracked across communities. To see who is abusing their power.
I’m pretty it’s Beaver. I’m now banned (and I appear to be blocked by Beaver as well) and I’m pretty sure the only recent direct interaction I’ve had with the community was downvoting the recent articles about how vegan diets are okay for carnivorous pets.
They went batshit with the meme posting last night and the threads were mostly shitting on them. They are full tilt.
Yup just checked, banned.
Yeah, beaver is a bit batshit lol
Modlog does contain the info, it’s just not displayed on the website. You can get the full data from lemmy API
Example:
Nice… thanks. I had indeed just checked the website. I think it should then just be on the website. Especially if they are exposing votes then open this up too.
Yeah it’s weird it just says ‘mod’ or ‘admin’ instead of the username
It’s because people abused mods who banned them and such. I kinda get it.
Transparency for thee…
Yeah…
The info is there. You can tell who it is by using the filters (e.g. logs filtered on me as the user that were modded by beaver: https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&modId=7121342&userId=36)
It’s a pain in the ass but it works.
Thunder shows the mod for each modlog action.
Most people aren’t vegan, so vegans are a minority. That’s not difficult to understand, so we have to assume you’re reading in bad faith. Stop it please.
Edit: veganism isn’t a diet either. Quite easy to find this out if you even stick the word into a search engine.
This might be a language barrier thing, but in most english-speaking countries when you use the term “minority” to refer to a group of people, that typically refers to a group who is a minority based on race, sex, ethnicity, gender or some other inherent trait. You might say, “a small community” to refer to a group within a group, but you wouldn’t say, “a minority community” for that unless you were trying to imply that the community in question was a racial, ethnic, gender, or other form of minority.
What about “vocal minority”?
While you have a point, my immediate reaction was, “oh cool, now they’re trying to do it too” (I’ve seen tankies claim the same shit). When I probe my brain to try and figure out why that was a response, the result is my brain telling me that I’m hearing some kind of dog whistle but it won’t go into more detail about what makes that statement sound like a dog whistle.
Tbh, considering how unhinged they’re behaving (though at this point I think they’re doing it for shits and giggles), I wouldn’t be surprised if they truly meant it that way; it honestly wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen someone on here try to claim something like that. I suppose that doesn’t mean they intended to mean it that way, now I’m curious if anyone else had a similar interpretation. I’m used to hearing people referring to racial, or gender, or ethnic minorities when they say something like, “I’m part of a misunderstood minority group”; and I know I’ve heard people from other english-speaking countries (other than the US) do it as well.
I have seen the word used in both ways, though I think that in this case the user was intending to use it to imply oppression, rather than simply meaning that they do not have a lot of users.
No, English is my first language, and all I’m saying is that you could’ve interpreted it the other way, which is plausible at the end of the day, and it’d be true, which is what it means to read something charitably/in good faith.
There are certainly vegan diets. People who still eat animal produce may still be interested in vegan alternatives without becoming vegan or vegetarian. And I don’t think being part of a small community of a certain life choice isn’t really making you a minority in the political sense (I assume that’s what the minority part is trying to imply here, that there’s some sort of entitlement for a minority protection).
Also, promoting vegan diets for carnivorous pets is indeed animal abuse and should not be defended or promoted. That’s typically a telltale sign of veganazis, which are generally a terrible thing even for actual vegans as they put the whole lifestyle into a bad light with their overly aggressive rhetoric and disinformation.
Yes, and there are Muslim diets I’m sure, but Islam isn’t a diet either, for example. Just stick “veganism” into your search engine of choice and the credible sources won’t call it a diet.
I’m arguing that they may not have meant that. The criticism should be “that’s clumsy wording because it sounds like you mean minority in a political sense” or “surely you don’t mean…” rather than “you’re comparing yourself to (minorities in the political sense) and therefore vegans are bad”.
Honestly, I suspect your willingness to assume the worst of what a vegan’s said, and that you bring up a minority view even amongst vegans out of context, betrays a prejudgment that plays as much, if not more, of a role as how aggressively some vegans argue in how you’re approaching the whole thing.
And there’s surely people who are looking for traditional Muslim food without wanting to convert to Islam as well. Muslim’s would probably treat people curious about their food less hostile than those vegans would.
You can suspect that I assume the worst of any sort of human, especially when they constantly argue in bad faith and with hostile rhetoric. That being said, I don’t approach vegans at all. I just observe the constant self righteous shit flinging they do from the outside, or get unwillingly caught up in it because they can’t help but attack people even outside of their little radicalized bubbles.
But then you’re willingly admitting that you don’t speak to enough vegans to have an informed idea of their ethos, which is something I wouldn’t readily admit even if I did it. Not sure what your first point has to do with the matter at hand though.
Not speaking to veganazis isn’t the same as not speaking to vegans. Normal vegans I have no issues talking to.
My first point is about the community that’s about vegan food shunning those interested in vegan food because they’re unwilling to talk to people who eat animal produce.
I think you’re going on a bit of a tangent I’m not interested in, sorry, but otherwise I’m not really following, and if you say things like “veganazis” it just reminds me of when people used to write “feminazis”.
To put the shoe on the other foot, how would it sound to you if someone on the Carnivore diet, or on the Atkins diet called themselves a minority?
It just doesn’t make sense, because dietary choices, are just that, choices. While actual minorities, like POCs and LGBTQ people, are born the way they are. They don’t have any choices in the matter.
Don’t get me wrong, dietary choices can be a super serious matter, and I am not saying that people aren’t discriminated against for them. I just think its wrong to call someone a minority based on any sort of dietary choice, at least in the same context that minority is usually used.
Religion is a choice, does that make religious minorities not minorities? It’s a strongly held ethical belief system.
Religion, by itself, is normally not a qualifier when we refer to minorites, as that word normally implies an ethnic or racial minority. However, there are some religions with ethnicities tied to them, e.g. Jewish people, and Muslims, so the line can definitely become a bit blurred.
Jewish people are a minority in most places because of their ethnicity, not their religion. Muslims are often referred to as minorities in most places, because most Muslims are ethnically related, at least as far as the Western world is concerned.
Some also reuse the word minority interchangably to refer to religious minorities, political minorities, etc, which further blurs the line, but the most common use of the word is in reference to race or ethnicity.
Again, veganism isn’t a diet (this is painfully easy to find out if you just quickly look it up!) and if you interpret minority in a literal sense, it’s true and relevant because it’s easy to be overwhelmed by the majority if you’re in the minority, which is what the person posting seems to be worried about.
It’s still a CHOICE. No one is born vegan; it’s a position that someone arrives at.
So is religion, theoretically at least.
I agree with you. Unfortunately, the law does not. The law privileges religion as though it was inherent and immutable.
I understand that Veganism is more than just a diet. Its a lifestyle, culture, pledge to a certain set of morals, etc. It can be as important as religion is to a devout religious person.
A person on the Carnivore diet can make the same point. A person that subscribes to a political identity could also make your same point. This slippery slope leads to Nazis being able to call themselves minorities, because technically, Naziism is a culture, too, albeit a terrible one, and they are very thankfully in the minority of political beliefs.
The difference being that nazis actually should be overwhelmed by the majority.
this vegan drama is dumb as shit
the top three vegan communities by users are hexbear, .ml, .world
hexbear has news, opinions, questions from a vegan pov
.ml has similar
.world has a lot of shitty memes
if you are looking for a serious vegan comm go to hexbear or ml. if you are looking for shitty memes go to .world
if you are not a vegan and just want to lolpost ‘but bacon is delicious’ keep it to your fucking self
Yeah I’m not vegan, but if vegans want to be insufferable in vegan spaces I think that’s ok. That’s where it’s supposed to be. If you want to be anti vegan in those spaces you’re an asshole for it
Ok but maybe then you pick a space that isn’t on a open federated social media platform designed for open conversation?
There is also [email protected], their own instance
Which Hamid has made just as bad as beaver did here, but I guess at least he’s transparent about ban hammering and comment removals. He’s insufferable and is the instance mod, not just community mod.
It is starting to look like the only place a vegan community mushroom can grow and flourish is on an even bigger pile of shit. It’s a little crass to say, but it ought to tell you something when the most defederated and blocked instances is where your group hangs out.
I just want to read vegan recipes and see like minded people discuss a topic in a civilized way, you know, like basically every other community.
Not worth being near tankies.
Yeah being around tankies just isn’t worth it, also it’s not like you’ll escape this kind of drama there anyway, they likely have drama this bad or worse there.
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I mean, it was kinda inevitable lol.
It’s one of those things where once you go full jerk, it gets attention. Unavoidable really, unless instance admins want to totally ban “drama” communities, which would just end up as posts on instances that don’t ban drama communities :)
Preemptive banning is a perfect example of prime drama.
In case you weren’t aware: that was the full jerk.
For the record, I think you contribute a lot to Lemmy, and I really appreciate it. OP’s being melodramatic because blocking a community chock full of content they’d rather not see on their personalized feed (and isn’t hateful, illegal, etc.) isn’t good enough for them. I guess they also need to troll and police different perspectives and how many posts they comprise on this great fedi platform. That’s good for Lemmy /s. Someone should post a PSA about blocking communities that don’t break rules but just aren’t one’s cup of tea. The behaviour helps Lemmy grow and stay diverse. For similar reasons, lemmynsfw (ie, the main porn/adult instance) removed downvotes: because minority communities (eg, rarer kinks) were being downvoted into oblivion - stifling growth and frustrating community members and mods - by people downvoting stuff they didn’t like on their feed versus blocking it
I wanna add that I like your community, I like how you stood up to that rogue admin, I like when you annoy carnists, I like your ban of OP, and I also like that c/fediverselore has posts like this. This community is a tool for calling out mod decisions, and some of those decisions will be good ones that don’t need calling out. It’s still better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
That’s it, I’m banning you from my acquaintances.
Trump could amp the rage: ‘they dont eat cats and dogs, they feed them vegan!’
Welcome, and thank you for joining us.
What are your motivations behind posting these memes? Are they not slightly provocational?
Not a vegan, but what’s the point from the other side?
It seems like non vegan people downvote the posts from that community without contributing at all, and then are surprised they get banned
If you guys are willing to debate vegan topics, why not create a !vegandebate and post content there?
Or just block the community and move on
Are you just gonna copy and paste the same comment?
I mean, it is a valid point to be brought up. A year ago when I joined Lemmy, one of the first advices I’ve read for new people starting out is to block communities they don’t want to see posts from - for whatever reason it may be.
What happened to that stance? I feel like if it were any other subject than veganism, people wouldn’t bat an eye. I’m not out here arguing that being vegan is like being part of a minority, but there sure as hell is a lot of vegan bashing on reddit. On Lemmy too, it seems
There’s also voting to voice what you want to see in a community. If you block every community that has content you don’t like, there won’t be anything left.
I see what you mean. However, I think downvoting to curate a community’s contents shows that you are an active participant in the community which many of the people who drive-by downvote usually aren’t
I don’t know, seems reasonable advice
You have to appreciate their efficiency.
You’re the OP, I guess you deserved to have it too
Well I suppose I have to block the community now, or else it’s gonna be all awkward.
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The memes we’re referring to seem to have resulted in an increase in moderation action. Is this inadvertent, or were the posts intended to drive up or surface critical commentary?
It was clearly purposeful.
Let’s give them a chance to speak, please.
They deleted that account. Maybe they’ll use one of their sock puppets?
Honestly, what a loser. Couldn’t stand the heat of their own kitchen.
Bad mods causing drama ending up on fediverse drama. More news at 11.
Probably your conscience letting you know it was wrong.
Was that your goal? Just to stir up shit?
Not a vegan, but what’s the point from the other side?
It seems like non vegan people downvote the posts from that community without contributing at all, and then are surprised they get banned
If you guys are willing to debate vegan topics, why not create a !vegandebate and post content there?
Or just block the community and move on
And what about those commenting on good faith?
And what’s the problem with voting on public posts on a public forum?
I’d love to see vegan content, not … whatever meme shitshow that community has become.
We can always ask for better.
Do you have examples? That modlog is a bit busy as you know, I’m not going to go through it
What’s the problem with banning on a public forum?
There was a post yesterday about vote manipulation by bots (https://feddit.org/post/2795018 ), if people just downvote the vegan content without contributing, it’s not that far from that.
Or maybe it just comes from them seeing downvotes as “non relevant to the community” and not “disagree”, hence getting rid of people who use it the other way.
I’m really not sure to get why it’s such a big deal. You got banned from a small community on Lemmy.
I’m not doing your homework for you.
Participating in a conversation ain’t homework. And if you don’t want to have a conversation, don’t bother replying.
It’s not the vegan posts people are down voting, but there’s been a huge amount of “memes” that do not contribute to the vegan discussion but just try to divide the community
They are probably trying to identify people who would rather downvote or post cheeky comments (see OP) rather than block the community, or not interact with it
Most people only interact with votes; not comments. If the rule is “No downvoting” make it an official rule and stop banning people under the pretense of breaking rule 5.
With the current thread on [email protected] how “communities should allow everyone to interact if they are not private”, the likelihood of someone else creating the same thread as this one with “look at those authoritarian mods who ban everyone” is quite high
You mean this?
https://lemmy.ca/post/28856687
At this point we should turn Rule 5 into it’s own joke. Bad vibes? Rule 5. I don’t like you? Rule 5. I’m having a bad day? Rule 5. The great servers need a sacrifice? Rule 5. Bitching about Rule 5? Believe it or not, Rule 5.
Rule 5
Where’s his brother? I could have sworn there were two angry beavers…
Edit: NM totally missed the mod in question’s name.
Justified ban imo. You weren’t there to discuss veganism as a vegan, you were there for drama. It’s not spam when they make a lot of posts to their own community. Unless the content is hateful, the correct response is to block.
I disagree. I see this often from lemmynsfw or various meme communities where some users tend to just dump 5-10 or even more threads. Neither Lemmy nor mbin really uses algorithms to prevent communities from showing up more than once, so you’ll always get the full load of those submissions spammed into your feed.
And no, blocking the entire community is not a valid solution when you do not inherently disagree with it.
I was never there, I was merely passing through All.
The OP literally shows a screenshot of your comment
What I mean to say is I didn’t enjoy a stay. My comment was made in a manner I would have made in any other community that popped up on All, that was serving up terrible meme after terrible meme. I wasn’t there to do anything.
If you were never a member of the community, then you’ve lost nothing from being banned, and the mod was right to decide that your comment wasn’t a good faith contribution from a member of the community.
Increasingly I believe communities should be able to hide from All. I step into places without realizing it too. They want an echo bunker, not a public sidewalk
To expand:
c/veganism isn’t actually a place to discuss the merits or news about vegan topics, or recipes.
It’s a place for vegans, and only vegans, to share likeminded opinions on their world view. This is not unique to this community.
Being a non vegan, and sharing a non vegan opinion there is not what they want. They find it offensive, and nearly bannable in general.
Ultimately, that’s ok, it’s their community.
The problem comes in when their posts land on All, where anyone sees it and feels invited to read and comment and vote. (Which I believe they are). So a mechanism to keep them off All would be useful to discourage people “walking by”
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Well put.
If outsider opinions are nearly always considered “bad faith”, the situation is a systemic issue with the visibility of the group.
Definitely
And I would say with such a rule, places shouldn’t have a rule 5 style rule AND be found on All. It should be either or. If you expose yourself to the public (to expand traffic), you.have to be thick skinned enough to handle public banter, which will not align with the community core.
Oh man, I am so happy I blocked that community months ago because I just have no interest in it or their diet.
I’m interested and I’m cutting down on animal sourced food, but they are aggressive, ignorant and overall annoying, so I blocked them some days ago. I’m not sure what their goal is. Gatekeeping veganism so that nobody considers it?
There are plenty of other spaces where vegans can respond to “plants feel pain” and “but what about lions” a million times a day, but that gets old pretty quick. The goal is to have a space where vegans can just interact amongst themselves, which necessarily requires some degree of gatekeeping
Take the community private? Have Moral purity test for admission?
They thrive on the nonsense.
Then shouldn’t their space be private, so they don’t show up on all? They are begging for downvotes with how nasty their memes are. I understand their point, but i am sure that my understanding is much better reserved for non jerks.
How does one make a private lemmy community?
I don’t know, don’t have an instance. If it’s not just an option to still be federated but to opt out of having community posts being featured in all then maybe they should defederate with all of the other ones so they can post terrible things about the people they hate behind everyone else’s backs. Or they can just accept that when someone (even a mod) posts something antagonistic, it’s going to get down votes.
I seriously doubt that vegan posts showing off durian jerky, or even posts about how long cows could live if the meat industry didn’t slaughter them at peak profit efficiency, would be downvoted that much.
I understand what you’re saying, but I still think they could do without being such assholes about it. But I don’t have to interact with them and blocking is easy, so be it what it is.
I’m not sure if you saw the recent community update, but things have died down at /c/vegan. Up to you, but posts will probably be leaning more informative and less antagonistic now that the situation has been resolved.
I haven’t seen it, but now I’m curious. Thanks
The users at lemmy.world basically already drove the mods in that community to suggest vegan communities on other instances to basically not have to put up with the rest of lemmy.world. It’s a dead community walking and the whole ordeal convinced me to block .world. I’ve seen less content, but damn has my experience on Lemmy gotten a whole lot better.
Wow, blocking LW is a bold move.
Interesting experience, your feed must indeed be much quieter
You’ll probably never see this, but I applaud you. Isn’t that the whole point of the fediverse? You can control who and what you see, and if you ever change your mind you can easily undo it. (And I get it, everybody needs a safe space sometimes.)
I wondered that myself, does blocking the instance also block comments?
My client does, but I have the option to click through if I think it’s worth it. Connect is the client.
It does not
It’s an echo bunker. Banning anyone who doesn’t whole throatedly support their beliefs is a feature of the community, not a bug. I am banned.
Ahhh no wonder I didn’t see this. I already had Beaver blocked.
Rule 5
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I’m lazy, please help me, what is rule 5
You don’t know about rule 5?
That’s a rule 5 violation.
D:
what will become of me
Paddle’n
:D
The heck is going on?
Dunno. Trouble at the mill.
Mods 108 communities?
What we have here, sir and/or madam, is a Reddit mod. Excessive modding, a smell you can’t quite place, same techniques.
Gotta say: I was hoping we wouldn’t be followed by that type.
Pretty sure the Reddit mods were the biggest group of complainers against Reddits API changes, since they used third party apps in order to mod.
So it stands to reason a ginormous group of them switched to Lemmy and had plenty of free time to mod there as well.
Out of those, less then 10 are active
https://lemmy.ca/u/beaver
There are plenty of LW mods who mod a higher number of active communities
It is inevitable, all lemmy instances will eventually be taken over by supermods that leverage their power to harass.
This vegan fiasco isn’t even the first time but I guarantee you the admins will leave them to powermod the remaining 107 as they see fit.
Well, in this case the person in question couldn’t handle the fallout of their actions, and actually deleted their whole account.
Powermods like that don’t usually have only one account, and since they can mod themselves wherever they go, they usually do.
Nuking an account is just changing skins. The admins have the power to track and fix that, but they won’t.
This has been a problem in Lemmy.ca for a while and I brought this up on [email protected] a while back:
https://lemmy.ca/post/21634180?scrollToComments=true