To add onto that, on the Jerboa app (not sure about other apps), if I try to click on an image in a comment, it just minimizes the comment. I’d love to be able to click on pictures in comments, as well, and have the thumbnail expand.
Connect does this too. It’s dumb. There’s not even a contextual long press option to open externally or anything. I’m sure it’ll come eventually, but it sucks as it is right now.
Most pirated content is pornography. While I do consider those performers and creators “artists,” the victims of piracy are the corporations and production companies that sell pornography. This is an industry rife with corruption and exploitation. The artists actually benefit from the, ahem, exposure, and the same can be said for television, movie, and music industries. Artists want people to pay to experience their art, but artists are better able to sell their art when the artist is well known. GoT was the most pirated TV show at it’s peak popularity, and the creatos said it was better for viewership than winning an Emmy.
Yes, piracy is analogous to stealing, semantics notwithstanding. But when art is a commodity, the capitalist, not the artist, is the primary beneficiary.
When you purchase a movie or show you’re still not paying digital artists. You’re paying some corporation who cooks their books to make profit disappear so they can keep it all for themselves. Have you not been following the writer/actor strike currently happening?
Using commercial software without paying for it is, in general, stealing.
But here are a bunch of things that are not stealing:
Using commercial software on a country other than where it was made available for sale
Using commercial software after the vendor no longer wants you to
Using commercial software in ways the vendor doesn’t like, such as on a device the vendor doesn’t approve of
Using commercial software on multiple devices, provided you use it on only one of them at a time
Making a backup copy of commercial software so you don’t lose it if the original copy is lost
Giving others a copy of commercial software that is no longer available for sale
Modifying commercial software to make it more enjoyable, such as by removing user-hostile misfeatures
Reverse engineering commercial software to learn how it works
Note that several of these items (such as cracking cheat protection in a multiplayer game) enable you to use commercial software in a way that unfairly harms others (such as cheating in a multiplayer game). That’s not stealing, but it is wrong in other ways.
I don’t know man. Where I live the law says it’s not stealing. It says: legal to share, illegal to share for profit. On other words: legal to share, illegal to sell.
It’s a lot earlier when you realize that everyone else is going to treat this world like a smash and grab regardless of what you do. These companies included especially.
The way I see it is that piracy IS stealing. Not of the digital items but of the income that they potentially would have had.
But I just don’t give a fuck
The word “potentially” is doing a lot of work there.
In many cases of piracy, the result of not pirating the work would not have been more income for the rights holder, it would have been the person just not acquiring a copy of the work at all.
I’m sorry, but I read your comment and didn’t find it interesting. I’ll have to sue you for the incredible things that I could’ve potentially done in these 10 seconds you stole from me, like buying a winning lottery ticket. /s
In that way, taxes can steal income from me that I potentially would’ve had if they didn’t exist, and if I could then spend that income on another service now the taxes stole it from that service
I honestly don’t care about the legality. Plus I come from a country where we have way bigger issues to deal with than piracy.
All I care about is coming up with ways to make sure my friends watch some of the stuff I recommend to them. Best way is still going “hey, check out this cool new show. Yes it’s on saltyflix”
that is exactly where i am at as well, battling with absurdly high inflation is already hard enough i can’t pay for bajillion different streaming services or non indie games
I am proud of pirating and I don’t get why people who also pirate would have a problem with that. Like you think it’s wrong and do it anyway, but think people who don’t think it’s wrong are cringe somehow? What’s wrong with standing up for what you believe in?
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To add onto that, on the Jerboa app (not sure about other apps), if I try to click on an image in a comment, it just minimizes the comment. I’d love to be able to click on pictures in comments, as well, and have the thumbnail expand.
Connect does this too. It’s dumb. There’s not even a contextual long press option to open externally or anything. I’m sure it’ll come eventually, but it sucks as it is right now.
This one gets me every time.
I think it’s just imgflip rn cause imgur and catbox links work
It’s literally not stealing though :)
ITT: people trying to find legal loopholes to try and justify not paying digital artists for thier work
Lol “digital artists.”
Most pirated content is pornography. While I do consider those performers and creators “artists,” the victims of piracy are the corporations and production companies that sell pornography. This is an industry rife with corruption and exploitation. The artists actually benefit from the, ahem, exposure, and the same can be said for television, movie, and music industries. Artists want people to pay to experience their art, but artists are better able to sell their art when the artist is well known. GoT was the most pirated TV show at it’s peak popularity, and the creatos said it was better for viewership than winning an Emmy.
Yes, piracy is analogous to stealing, semantics notwithstanding. But when art is a commodity, the capitalist, not the artist, is the primary beneficiary.
Lol what? Artists can’t pay rent with exposure
Well then they better talk to the people who hired them not us.
When you purchase a movie or show you’re still not paying digital artists. You’re paying some corporation who cooks their books to make profit disappear so they can keep it all for themselves. Have you not been following the writer/actor strike currently happening?
No one in this thread is trying to justify piracy. Everyone in this thread is rightfully saying that the comparison to theft is wrong.
That’s it.
If no one loses anything they never had in the first place it is not stealing
This meme is stealing.
You wouldn’t download a meme.
You wouldn’t shitpost in the policeman’s helmet
Luckily I’m behind 7 proxies
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Nicholas Cage heavily breathing about all the people simultaneously stealing the declaration of independence
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Jokes on you I just downloaded those pictures and if you want them back you must give me 1 million upvotes
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Using commercial software without paying for it is, in general, stealing.
But here are a bunch of things that are not stealing:
Note that several of these items (such as cracking cheat protection in a multiplayer game) enable you to use commercial software in a way that unfairly harms others (such as cheating in a multiplayer game). That’s not stealing, but it is wrong in other ways.
Its still not theft by legal means.
I’m just here to see where everyone else is placed on the chart.
I don’t know man. Where I live the law says it’s not stealing. It says: legal to share, illegal to share for profit. On other words: legal to share, illegal to sell.
And where would that be?
EU.
Well…Where he lives… /shrug
Talk about blowing smoke up your own ass.
Or you could just not give a flying fuck about the moral and ethical aspects and go on with your life.
Or you could understand that you are doing nothing wrong and don’t drink the corporate Kool aid
Live the unexamined life? But then who will pay attention to me?
It’s a lot earlier when you realize that everyone else is going to treat this world like a smash and grab regardless of what you do. These companies
includedespecially.Which is why I think it is probably more immoral to play by their rules. But in the end I pirate cause I’m poor.
Exactly, it is not like they are paying devs extra, they get the same whether the game is sold good or bad. CEOs keep the money.
The way I see it is that piracy IS stealing. Not of the digital items but of the income that they potentially would have had. But I just don’t give a fuck
The word “potentially” is doing a lot of work there.
In many cases of piracy, the result of not pirating the work would not have been more income for the rights holder, it would have been the person just not acquiring a copy of the work at all.
I’m sorry, but I read your comment and didn’t find it interesting. I’ll have to sue you for the incredible things that I could’ve potentially done in these 10 seconds you stole from me, like buying a winning lottery ticket. /s
In that way, taxes can steal income from me that I potentially would’ve had if they didn’t exist, and if I could then spend that income on another service now the taxes stole it from that service
“Potential” revenue is completely bullshit.
I potentially have 20 billions of income but my greedy employer doesn’t pay it to me!
Thats not how shit works.
I honestly don’t care about the legality. Plus I come from a country where we have way bigger issues to deal with than piracy.
All I care about is coming up with ways to make sure my friends watch some of the stuff I recommend to them. Best way is still going “hey, check out this cool new show. Yes it’s on saltyflix”
that is exactly where i am at as well, battling with absurdly high inflation is already hard enough i can’t pay for bajillion different streaming services or non indie games
I’m living in one of those countries. I still use a vpn, but I don’t anyone here does besides me.
But the way I look at it is, the people so make these things are also so rich out at least have higher incomes than I do by a significant amount.
Why are you asking me for money? Don’t you have enough?
I feel so stupid: what’s saltyflix lol
Haha, it’s just a play on my user name and netflix
I am proud of pirating and I don’t get why people who also pirate would have a problem with that. Like you think it’s wrong and do it anyway, but think people who don’t think it’s wrong are cringe somehow? What’s wrong with standing up for what you believe in?