what is the website again that we can check which games are supported in Linux and which aren’t?
it’s literally the only thing holding me back from switching but I need to triple check to make sure all good… don’t have any extra devices I can duel boot from ATM so it would be a full 100% switch
There’s definitely a long way to go, but as more people start using Linux adoption is likely to accelerate. You’re more likely to switch if you know someone personally who already uses it and can help you get over the initial hurdles, and the more people who use it the more attention it’ll get from hardware and software vendors, making them more likely to support Linux directly instead of so much relying on compatibility layers and reverse-engineered drivers.
No. Its using https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/ as the source, where the 3 percent is from the desktop category.
Overall android has the biggest market share at 40% with windows as a runnerup at 28%.
Windows looks qute consistent to me. Android has a dip though, which could be caused by usage patterns, looking at the previous years the peak of phone usage is around summer. It could also be changes between browser versions and to some extend extensions for those browsers (firefox allows for extensions on mobile).
Pffft windows is the most unconsistant looking pile of UI trash in the world, they can’t even stack up with Gnome and windows is on most pc’s. Their design is ugly and when u go into settings u have win 10 and old win 7 ui elements in their “new windows 11 system”
Pfft so glad I wiped windows from my PC for a better and more stream lined OS
Looking at that sudden increase in OS X usage, I assume its related to the M1 chip?
Although I still wouldn’t touch apple with a 6foot pole. People love to shit on Microsoft, at least they tend to treat their staff well. Everyone seems to have forgotten that Apple fitted nets at their Foxconn factory.
I can als troubleshoot any OS except stuff made by the fruit business as everything is hidden behind secret button combinations and lock outs.
Could definitely be that the OS X is seeing more users due to M1. It could also be that this type of user is just more active on the internet recently, statcounter mesures total amount of visits and not unique visitors.
I don’t think people know how big of a feat this is. This list could be full of “gaming laptop grandmas” or casual macbook users who just use it for word/excel.
No shame in either of that, the first one is quite cool but I think that 3% is a lot, especially by a metric that actively includes non tech savvy people
I’m using macOS on an M1Pro MacBook Pro as a middle way between Windows and Linux. I’m also over 30 and I can’t stay I don’t like a profesional looking nice design and great materials/build quality. I had a really bad experience when I bought a new Lenovo gaming laptop 2 years ago with Ubuntu
Linux. The trackpad and graphics card were not working due to driver issues. I think I also had to compile a kernel module…Full Disk Encryption I feel is also finicky. I always forget …is it LUKS on LVM or the other way around. btrfs was still not straightened out.
Steam Deck honestly convinced me to move my desktop over to Linux.
I’m still dual-booting, but I only go into Windows if something struggles too much over Proton (looking at you Satisfactory). I’ve been daily driving KDE Neon for about 2 months without issues.
Plasma is a great desktop environment, too. Usually the desktop environments were what chased me away - GNOME was slow sometimes and always felt… off, Cinnamon doesn’t like multiple desktops despite claiming to, with the maintainers refusing to even acknowledge the problems, XFE is… XFE, and historically Plasma was always super crashy and bloated.
Valve’s been funding the KDE guys to make Plasma better and it really shows. Plasma feels like a modern desktop that can compete with Windows directly - and honestly beats Windows with how bad Windows 11 has become. (Last time I was in Windows it took the Windows 11 Start Menu a full 20 seconds to open - but don’t worry, it had time to serve me an ad for Xbox Game Pass.)
I’ve seen at least one article of Valve funding some work on kwin for a short time, but nothing of them funding the actual desktop. Do you know of any sources for that?
Yeah, I can’t find the source I originally read it from (I think it was on the KDE subreddit from a KDE dev there), but they gave a talk about it recently. I’ve only skimmed the talk but they do speak pretty heavily about KDE collaborating with Valve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0gEIeFgDX0
Cool, gave it a look. Didn’t know the firewall settings page came about because of collaboration with them. Didn’t see anything about funding, but I hope they are.
You basically described me exactly when I switched. Switched to Endeavour OS Nov2021 and I’ve been so happy with the change. Steam Deck was definitely my inspiration and reason I chose an arch based distro with KDE(I’d also always preferred kde from my previous Linux forays). I game everyday, and at this point I consider myself Linux proficient. I rarely need to look up commands. Other than games I rarely need to use any non native software, but when I do running it through Bottles usually works. Next step is to finally upgrade my aging 1070ti to an AMD card.
Just wait until you hit your head on a cabinet door and wake up with a sudden craving for tiling window managers. Before you know it you’ll have a customized WM config written in Haskell that you’ll forget how to edit after a few months
I wouldn’t be able to live in gnu/linux full time without wine and proton. It just wouldn’t happen since gaming is a huge part of what I do on my computer.
Everything adds a little. Another thing happening are the newer Windows versions requiring stupidly high minimum requirements, pushing people with older machines into alternatives.
I think it’s a combination of the steam deck, people learning that Linux isn’t really that hard, and Microsoft breaking there reputation by spitting out windows 11 when they promised that windows 10 would be the last, and windows 11 having higher requirements so people with older computers is now looking at alternatives and the people who haven’t switched to 11 being stressed about windows 12 comming, and then therefore searching for alternatives
Windows 11 got worse than Windows 10 in my opinion. But I somehow prefer to use Windows 11 Ameliorated (Enshitificated from Microsoft services) for VR gaming only. Rest is just Arch Lunix
For me 2016 was year of linux desktop since than i started using linux. And if i see linux in the wild it is very often Ubuntu 16.04 with that beautifull Unity DE.
I think it’s Proton plus how un-userfriendly Windows has become, I know atleast 2 people who switched on their desktop because they could avoid Windows 11 while still playing their steam library, And handful a more who are looking into doing the same when Win10 goes EOL.
For everyday browser workflows I’m not sure why anyone would use anything else. Microsoft literally only keeps windows relevant by making sure pptx will never be standards compliant. Other than gaming, that’s literally the only thing forcing me to use windows or macOS these days. Company requirements to have native PowerPoint.
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The SteamDeck has been a huge gamechanger (pun intended!). All video games work now.
what is the website again that we can check which games are supported in Linux and which aren’t?
it’s literally the only thing holding me back from switching but I need to triple check to make sure all good… don’t have any extra devices I can duel boot from ATM so it would be a full 100% switch
There is protondb and winehq
I also like areweanticheatyet
many thanks!!
ProtonDb and lutris
If game devs would allow the anticheat workarounds valves has already added to proton, we would be golden
I feel bad, I’m using wsl.
At this rate, Linux domination will be unavoidable by checks calculations 2993!
Growth follows an S shaped curve, so (should) be sooner
That’s true. I wonder what the threshold rate of adoption is for the ‘S’ to start
And you know what? this might actually be true. Where do we buy shares ?
There’s definitely a long way to go, but as more people start using Linux adoption is likely to accelerate. You’re more likely to switch if you know someone personally who already uses it and can help you get over the initial hurdles, and the more people who use it the more attention it’ll get from hardware and software vendors, making them more likely to support Linux directly instead of so much relying on compatibility layers and reverse-engineered drivers.
2193 factorial, yeah maybe
Is Android included?
most likely no
Makes sense
No. Its using https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/ as the source, where the 3 percent is from the desktop category.
Overall android has the biggest market share at 40% with windows as a runnerup at 28%.
Yeah I should have known that android has a way higher percentage
What’s with the weird dip in windows usage and uptick in “unknown” usage?
Windows looks qute consistent to me. Android has a dip though, which could be caused by usage patterns, looking at the previous years the peak of phone usage is around summer. It could also be changes between browser versions and to some extend extensions for those browsers (firefox allows for extensions on mobile).
Pffft windows is the most unconsistant looking pile of UI trash in the world, they can’t even stack up with Gnome and windows is on most pc’s. Their design is ugly and when u go into settings u have win 10 and old win 7 ui elements in their “new windows 11 system” Pfft so glad I wiped windows from my PC for a better and more stream lined OS
I’m talking about the data on the website i referred to. Not the UI of windows, i don’t even use windows.
Ignore my ramblings
Maybe some builds of Windows erroneously counting as “unknown” then correcting?
Looking at that sudden increase in OS X usage, I assume its related to the M1 chip? Although I still wouldn’t touch apple with a 6foot pole. People love to shit on Microsoft, at least they tend to treat their staff well. Everyone seems to have forgotten that Apple fitted nets at their Foxconn factory.
I can als troubleshoot any OS except stuff made by the fruit business as everything is hidden behind secret button combinations and lock outs.
Could definitely be that the OS X is seeing more users due to M1. It could also be that this type of user is just more active on the internet recently, statcounter mesures total amount of visits and not unique visitors.
I don’t think people know how big of a feat this is. This list could be full of “gaming laptop grandmas” or casual macbook users who just use it for word/excel.
No shame in either of that, the first one is quite cool but I think that 3% is a lot, especially by a metric that actively includes non tech savvy people
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I use arch btw.
I’m using macOS on an M1Pro MacBook Pro as a middle way between Windows and Linux. I’m also over 30 and I can’t stay I don’t like a profesional looking nice design and great materials/build quality. I had a really bad experience when I bought a new Lenovo gaming laptop 2 years ago with Ubuntu Linux. The trackpad and graphics card were not working due to driver issues. I think I also had to compile a kernel module…Full Disk Encryption I feel is also finicky. I always forget …is it LUKS on LVM or the other way around. btrfs was still not straightened out.
Does this have anything to do with the prevalence of the Steam Deck?
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Steam Deck honestly convinced me to move my desktop over to Linux.
I’m still dual-booting, but I only go into Windows if something struggles too much over Proton (looking at you Satisfactory). I’ve been daily driving KDE Neon for about 2 months without issues.
Plasma is a great desktop environment, too. Usually the desktop environments were what chased me away - GNOME was slow sometimes and always felt… off, Cinnamon doesn’t like multiple desktops despite claiming to, with the maintainers refusing to even acknowledge the problems, XFE is… XFE, and historically Plasma was always super crashy and bloated.
Valve’s been funding the KDE guys to make Plasma better and it really shows. Plasma feels like a modern desktop that can compete with Windows directly - and honestly beats Windows with how bad Windows 11 has become. (Last time I was in Windows it took the Windows 11 Start Menu a full 20 seconds to open - but don’t worry, it had time to serve me an ad for Xbox Game Pass.)
Same! Just switched over to this nifty distro called EndeavourOS… Yeah, I use arch btw 😎
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I’ve seen at least one article of Valve funding some work on kwin for a short time, but nothing of them funding the actual desktop. Do you know of any sources for that?
Yeah, I can’t find the source I originally read it from (I think it was on the KDE subreddit from a KDE dev there), but they gave a talk about it recently. I’ve only skimmed the talk but they do speak pretty heavily about KDE collaborating with Valve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0gEIeFgDX0
Cool, gave it a look. Didn’t know the firewall settings page came about because of collaboration with them. Didn’t see anything about funding, but I hope they are.
You basically described me exactly when I switched. Switched to Endeavour OS Nov2021 and I’ve been so happy with the change. Steam Deck was definitely my inspiration and reason I chose an arch based distro with KDE(I’d also always preferred kde from my previous Linux forays). I game everyday, and at this point I consider myself Linux proficient. I rarely need to look up commands. Other than games I rarely need to use any non native software, but when I do running it through Bottles usually works. Next step is to finally upgrade my aging 1070ti to an AMD card.
Just wait until you hit your head on a cabinet door and wake up with a sudden craving for tiling window managers. Before you know it you’ll have a customized WM config written in Haskell that you’ll forget how to edit after a few months
Boot to tty and use tmux
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I wouldn’t be able to live in gnu/linux full time without wine and proton. It just wouldn’t happen since gaming is a huge part of what I do on my computer.
Proton is wine+dxvk packaged by Valve (pkus a few other libs). The work the wine teams did in thr last decades has been heroic.
Everything adds a little. Another thing happening are the newer Windows versions requiring stupidly high minimum requirements, pushing people with older machines into alternatives.
I think it’s a combination of the steam deck, people learning that Linux isn’t really that hard, and Microsoft breaking there reputation by spitting out windows 11 when they promised that windows 10 would be the last, and windows 11 having higher requirements so people with older computers is now looking at alternatives and the people who haven’t switched to 11 being stressed about windows 12 comming, and then therefore searching for alternatives
Windows 10 is just that shitty
That’s why I use Windows 11.
Windows 11 got worse than Windows 10 in my opinion. But I somehow prefer to use Windows 11 Ameliorated (Enshitificated from Microsoft services) for VR gaming only. Rest is just Arch Lunix
Wait, no, go back
Thus marking the 30th year of the linux desktop.
For me 2016 was year of linux desktop since than i started using linux. And if i see linux in the wild it is very often Ubuntu 16.04 with that beautifull Unity DE.
I think mostly thanks to Steam Deck. I have one, and it is probably one of the best gaming device I ever bought.
I think it’s Proton plus how un-userfriendly Windows has become, I know atleast 2 people who switched on their desktop because they could avoid Windows 11 while still playing their steam library, And handful a more who are looking into doing the same when Win10 goes EOL.
Only thing preventing me from switching is the fact games with anti-cheat are pretty much fucked on Linux unfortunately
The only game I wasn’t able to play while trying Linux was Rust.
Most EasyAntiCheat games seem to work if the dev gives a shit and I was able to play Battlefield 4 and 1 with Punkbuster fine.
I only play old low CPU/GPU demanding games :-)
For everyday browser workflows I’m not sure why anyone would use anything else. Microsoft literally only keeps windows relevant by making sure pptx will never be standards compliant. Other than gaming, that’s literally the only thing forcing me to use windows or macOS these days. Company requirements to have native PowerPoint.
I am a Linux Student User, they gove me a presentation to do, and I simply used the PowerPoint Online Tool.
Of course, it might lack some features, but for an assignment every once and a while, was perfectly fine.
For the rest I always use Libre Office to complete my assignments, and convert the file to PDF afterward.
This only counts web users, so probably actually underrepresented deck users (cause who’s browsing the web on their deck)
Also doesn’t count Firefox users
Isn’t that the main browser for like, most Linux users?
3% of all computers is pretty damn significant.
Just a technicality, but Linux makes out 3% of the Desktop OS market share. The percentage is rather different when looking at “all computers”.
Edit: didn’t see the other comments, sorry for spamming.
Oh yeah, Linux is extremely popular as a server OS. I’d be surprised if ≥60% of all computers weren’t running some offshoot of Linux.
If you include embedded it’s 90+
Of all computers Linux as kernel is probably well above 90%. Here they are talking about desktop OS, that is a small part of all computers
You mean desktop computers.
Ah gotcha, but still. Damn.
No, you don’t get it. It’s even more impressive, since other categories are already dominated by Linux. Desktop is the last holdout, and it’s changing
Oh wow! My bad, I’m a Linux novice. I just subbed because I’m interested in getting started.
LMAO! I was thinking of this exact idea when I saw that.
I laughed way too loud.