There’s definitely a long way to go, but as more people start using Linux adoption is likely to accelerate. You’re more likely to switch if you know someone personally who already uses it and can help you get over the initial hurdles, and the more people who use it the more attention it’ll get from hardware and software vendors, making them more likely to support Linux directly instead of so much relying on compatibility layers and reverse-engineered drivers.
No. Its using https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/ as the source, where the 3 percent is from the desktop category.
Overall android has the biggest market share at 40% with windows as a runnerup at 28%.
Windows looks qute consistent to me. Android has a dip though, which could be caused by usage patterns, looking at the previous years the peak of phone usage is around summer. It could also be changes between browser versions and to some extend extensions for those browsers (firefox allows for extensions on mobile).
Pffft windows is the most unconsistant looking pile of UI trash in the world, they can’t even stack up with Gnome and windows is on most pc’s. Their design is ugly and when u go into settings u have win 10 and old win 7 ui elements in their “new windows 11 system”
Pfft so glad I wiped windows from my PC for a better and more stream lined OS
Looking at that sudden increase in OS X usage, I assume its related to the M1 chip?
Although I still wouldn’t touch apple with a 6foot pole. People love to shit on Microsoft, at least they tend to treat their staff well. Everyone seems to have forgotten that Apple fitted nets at their Foxconn factory.
I can als troubleshoot any OS except stuff made by the fruit business as everything is hidden behind secret button combinations and lock outs.
Could definitely be that the OS X is seeing more users due to M1. It could also be that this type of user is just more active on the internet recently, statcounter mesures total amount of visits and not unique visitors.
I’m using macOS on an M1Pro MacBook Pro as a middle way between Windows and Linux. I’m also over 30 and I can’t stay I don’t like a profesional looking nice design and great materials/build quality. I had a really bad experience when I bought a new Lenovo gaming laptop 2 years ago with Ubuntu
Linux. The trackpad and graphics card were not working due to driver issues. I think I also had to compile a kernel module…Full Disk Encryption I feel is also finicky. I always forget …is it LUKS on LVM or the other way around. btrfs was still not straightened out.
Does anyone think this number can be more than what’s being reported? If I am not wrong, some Linux users are very privacy concerned and probably might not like to scream to the world that they are using Linux, it can’t be 1% or anything like that, but I reckon it’s greater than 0.1% of desktop users
Everything adds a little. Another thing happening are the newer Windows versions requiring stupidly high minimum requirements, pushing people with older machines into alternatives.
I wouldn’t be able to live in gnu/linux full time without wine and proton. It just wouldn’t happen since gaming is a huge part of what I do on my computer.
Steam Deck honestly convinced me to move my desktop over to Linux.
I’m still dual-booting, but I only go into Windows if something struggles too much over Proton (looking at you Satisfactory). I’ve been daily driving KDE Neon for about 2 months without issues.
Plasma is a great desktop environment, too. Usually the desktop environments were what chased me away - GNOME was slow sometimes and always felt… off, Cinnamon doesn’t like multiple desktops despite claiming to, with the maintainers refusing to even acknowledge the problems, XFE is… XFE, and historically Plasma was always super crashy and bloated.
Valve’s been funding the KDE guys to make Plasma better and it really shows. Plasma feels like a modern desktop that can compete with Windows directly - and honestly beats Windows with how bad Windows 11 has become. (Last time I was in Windows it took the Windows 11 Start Menu a full 20 seconds to open - but don’t worry, it had time to serve me an ad for Xbox Game Pass.)
I’ve seen at least one article of Valve funding some work on kwin for a short time, but nothing of them funding the actual desktop. Do you know of any sources for that?
Yeah, I can’t find the source I originally read it from (I think it was on the KDE subreddit from a KDE dev there), but they gave a talk about it recently. I’ve only skimmed the talk but they do speak pretty heavily about KDE collaborating with Valve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0gEIeFgDX0
Cool, gave it a look. Didn’t know the firewall settings page came about because of collaboration with them. Didn’t see anything about funding, but I hope they are.
You basically described me exactly when I switched. Switched to Endeavour OS Nov2021 and I’ve been so happy with the change. Steam Deck was definitely my inspiration and reason I chose an arch based distro with KDE(I’d also always preferred kde from my previous Linux forays). I game everyday, and at this point I consider myself Linux proficient. I rarely need to look up commands. Other than games I rarely need to use any non native software, but when I do running it through Bottles usually works. Next step is to finally upgrade my aging 1070ti to an AMD card.
Just wait until you hit your head on a cabinet door and wake up with a sudden craving for tiling window managers. Before you know it you’ll have a customized WM config written in Haskell that you’ll forget how to edit after a few months
I think it’s a combination of the steam deck, people learning that Linux isn’t really that hard, and Microsoft breaking there reputation by spitting out windows 11 when they promised that windows 10 would be the last, and windows 11 having higher requirements so people with older computers is now looking at alternatives and the people who haven’t switched to 11 being stressed about windows 12 comming, and then therefore searching for alternatives
Is it possible to cheat those anti cheats with a VM? Been trying to switch to Fedora but still contemplating if proton could run everything I need without too many bugs and issues.
Newer linux games on steam are compiled to run in containers in the same way as a flatpak. They could break it a security patch would break some vague hack in de game, but these should be minimal. These containers are only released ever other year and keep being supported so there isn’t really any serious compatible problem there. The first Linux games on steam like team fortress 2 ran partially on the system libraries and that caused lots of problems, especially when these get older.
With the snipperred Linux desktop, containers are the only viable solution.
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At this rate, Linux domination will be unavoidable by checks calculations 2993!
Growth follows an S shaped curve, so (should) be sooner
That’s true. I wonder what the threshold rate of adoption is for the ‘S’ to start
There’s definitely a long way to go, but as more people start using Linux adoption is likely to accelerate. You’re more likely to switch if you know someone personally who already uses it and can help you get over the initial hurdles, and the more people who use it the more attention it’ll get from hardware and software vendors, making them more likely to support Linux directly instead of so much relying on compatibility layers and reverse-engineered drivers.
2193 factorial, yeah maybe
And you know what? this might actually be true. Where do we buy shares ?
Is Android included?
No. Its using https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/ as the source, where the 3 percent is from the desktop category.
Overall android has the biggest market share at 40% with windows as a runnerup at 28%.
What’s with the weird dip in windows usage and uptick in “unknown” usage?
Windows looks qute consistent to me. Android has a dip though, which could be caused by usage patterns, looking at the previous years the peak of phone usage is around summer. It could also be changes between browser versions and to some extend extensions for those browsers (firefox allows for extensions on mobile).
Pffft windows is the most unconsistant looking pile of UI trash in the world, they can’t even stack up with Gnome and windows is on most pc’s. Their design is ugly and when u go into settings u have win 10 and old win 7 ui elements in their “new windows 11 system” Pfft so glad I wiped windows from my PC for a better and more stream lined OS
I’m talking about the data on the website i referred to. Not the UI of windows, i don’t even use windows.
Ignore my ramblings
Maybe some builds of Windows erroneously counting as “unknown” then correcting?
Yeah I should have known that android has a way higher percentage
Looking at that sudden increase in OS X usage, I assume its related to the M1 chip? Although I still wouldn’t touch apple with a 6foot pole. People love to shit on Microsoft, at least they tend to treat their staff well. Everyone seems to have forgotten that Apple fitted nets at their Foxconn factory.
I can als troubleshoot any OS except stuff made by the fruit business as everything is hidden behind secret button combinations and lock outs.
Could definitely be that the OS X is seeing more users due to M1. It could also be that this type of user is just more active on the internet recently, statcounter mesures total amount of visits and not unique visitors.
most likely no
Makes sense
I feel bad, I’m using wsl.
I’m using macOS on an M1Pro MacBook Pro as a middle way between Windows and Linux. I’m also over 30 and I can’t stay I don’t like a profesional looking nice design and great materials/build quality. I had a really bad experience when I bought a new Lenovo gaming laptop 2 years ago with Ubuntu Linux. The trackpad and graphics card were not working due to driver issues. I think I also had to compile a kernel module…Full Disk Encryption I feel is also finicky. I always forget …is it LUKS on LVM or the other way around. btrfs was still not straightened out.
@SchrodingersPat yay
@SchrodingersPat we will finally show up in pie charts lets go
Meanwhile, the servers, containers, and phones are all running some flavor of *nix. But yeah, nice to have a little toehold in desktop-land, I guess.
It’s been a bit of a struggle, but I switched my media server over in December and I will never go back to Windows.
Does anyone think this number can be more than what’s being reported? If I am not wrong, some Linux users are very privacy concerned and probably might not like to scream to the world that they are using Linux, it can’t be 1% or anything like that, but I reckon it’s greater than 0.1% of desktop users
It will happen sooner or later
3% of all computers is pretty damn significant.
Of all computers Linux as kernel is probably well above 90%. Here they are talking about desktop OS, that is a small part of all computers
Just a technicality, but Linux makes out 3% of the Desktop OS market share. The percentage is rather different when looking at “all computers”.
Edit: didn’t see the other comments, sorry for spamming.
Oh yeah, Linux is extremely popular as a server OS. I’d be surprised if ≥60% of all computers weren’t running some offshoot of Linux.
If you include embedded it’s 90+
You mean desktop computers.
Ah gotcha, but still. Damn.
No, you don’t get it. It’s even more impressive, since other categories are already dominated by Linux. Desktop is the last holdout, and it’s changing
Oh wow! My bad, I’m a Linux novice. I just subbed because I’m interested in getting started.
Does this have anything to do with the prevalence of the Steam Deck?
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Proton is wine+dxvk packaged by Valve (pkus a few other libs). The work the wine teams did in thr last decades has been heroic.
Everything adds a little. Another thing happening are the newer Windows versions requiring stupidly high minimum requirements, pushing people with older machines into alternatives.
I wouldn’t be able to live in gnu/linux full time without wine and proton. It just wouldn’t happen since gaming is a huge part of what I do on my computer.
Steam Deck honestly convinced me to move my desktop over to Linux.
I’m still dual-booting, but I only go into Windows if something struggles too much over Proton (looking at you Satisfactory). I’ve been daily driving KDE Neon for about 2 months without issues.
Plasma is a great desktop environment, too. Usually the desktop environments were what chased me away - GNOME was slow sometimes and always felt… off, Cinnamon doesn’t like multiple desktops despite claiming to, with the maintainers refusing to even acknowledge the problems, XFE is… XFE, and historically Plasma was always super crashy and bloated.
Valve’s been funding the KDE guys to make Plasma better and it really shows. Plasma feels like a modern desktop that can compete with Windows directly - and honestly beats Windows with how bad Windows 11 has become. (Last time I was in Windows it took the Windows 11 Start Menu a full 20 seconds to open - but don’t worry, it had time to serve me an ad for Xbox Game Pass.)
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I’ve seen at least one article of Valve funding some work on kwin for a short time, but nothing of them funding the actual desktop. Do you know of any sources for that?
Yeah, I can’t find the source I originally read it from (I think it was on the KDE subreddit from a KDE dev there), but they gave a talk about it recently. I’ve only skimmed the talk but they do speak pretty heavily about KDE collaborating with Valve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0gEIeFgDX0
Cool, gave it a look. Didn’t know the firewall settings page came about because of collaboration with them. Didn’t see anything about funding, but I hope they are.
You basically described me exactly when I switched. Switched to Endeavour OS Nov2021 and I’ve been so happy with the change. Steam Deck was definitely my inspiration and reason I chose an arch based distro with KDE(I’d also always preferred kde from my previous Linux forays). I game everyday, and at this point I consider myself Linux proficient. I rarely need to look up commands. Other than games I rarely need to use any non native software, but when I do running it through Bottles usually works. Next step is to finally upgrade my aging 1070ti to an AMD card.
Just wait until you hit your head on a cabinet door and wake up with a sudden craving for tiling window managers. Before you know it you’ll have a customized WM config written in Haskell that you’ll forget how to edit after a few months
Boot to tty and use tmux
Same! Just switched over to this nifty distro called EndeavourOS… Yeah, I use arch btw 😎
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I think it’s a combination of the steam deck, people learning that Linux isn’t really that hard, and Microsoft breaking there reputation by spitting out windows 11 when they promised that windows 10 would be the last, and windows 11 having higher requirements so people with older computers is now looking at alternatives and the people who haven’t switched to 11 being stressed about windows 12 comming, and then therefore searching for alternatives
Still forever hopeful for the day that making PC games native for Linux is a norm.
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Totally agree. Squad is one of the few few reasons I have a windows install.
Is it possible to cheat those anti cheats with a VM? Been trying to switch to Fedora but still contemplating if proton could run everything I need without too many bugs and issues.
Did you try with KVM and some tweaks to pretend that it is areal world machine?
I have been playing squad on linux without any issues for a while now, I don’t think I even had to do any tinkering.
Oh man, I haven’t tried in a hot bit. Will have to give it a shot again. Thanks!
That’ll happen when glibc stops breaking everything with each new update. That is, never.
Newer linux games on steam are compiled to run in containers in the same way as a flatpak. They could break it a security patch would break some vague hack in de game, but these should be minimal. These containers are only released ever other year and keep being supported so there isn’t really any serious compatible problem there. The first Linux games on steam like team fortress 2 ran partially on the system libraries and that caused lots of problems, especially when these get older.
With the snipperred Linux desktop, containers are the only viable solution.