I’m so sorry to hear what you’re dealing with. I think the most important thing we can try to take from the pains, is to try treating others better than we were treated, despite how difficult it might be.
I mean it could be worse. In an alternate timeline, you could be living in world where the nazis built nukes first and America becomes a fascist puppet state.
There are also many developing countries in the world. Not saying it justifies the current state of the US, but to put it in perspective, a lot of people still want to come to the US. As an immigrant, I do not wish to go back to my former country, I mean, unless war breaks out or the US becoming a dictatorship or something, but its already too late for me. Once I gotten my US citizenship, my former country revoked my old citizenship.
I keep on having this debate with my dad. He’s 73 and I’m 37. One night he was like “people from your generation want to buy a ‘starter home’ and a vacation home, and then a few years later buy a bigger home!” and I was like “no one in my generation is even thinking about buying a vacation home when they can barely make a livable wage in a lot of fields.” Teachers make about $25/hour (about 35-40k/year) and they deal with tons of shit from the faculty, state, and students themselves. I was making $112k/year working in IT and could barely afford to live by myself in or close to Manhattan.
The (boomer) generation holds bizarrely strong biases, it could be they subconsciously they do it to avoid admitting they’ve screwed their kids with their political votes, or more likely they simply only care about getting their own and aren’t thinking far enough ahead to realize their being snookered and driving the bus off a cliff.
I worked for Disney+ (got laid off about a month ago) as a Linux Systems Engineer, so it’s not like I worked for a small company doing Windows desktop support. It is a significant amount of money, but the taxes screwed me, I’d only see about 85k of it, couple that with 10% tax on everything and the increased prices of living in the most expensive city in the US and it’s not as much as you think it is. About 60% of my monthly income went to rent and bills.
What at-home stuff can you do to maintain your teeth? Brushing and flossing twice a day just doesn’t cut it. Brown stuff still eventually builds up around the edges and right above the gum line (although it does take quite a few years). Being obsessive about dental hygiene only delays the buildup and is not sustainable on its own. I may be able to afford dentist appointments now but by the way society is headed, that may not be the case 10 years from now or even next month.
I like Communism, but stalinist communism isn’t a utopia just because it’s communism
I do wish people would respect the ideals of communism more however, it’s ridiculous to think that letting the people with all the money, land, and resources (i.e capital) should also have all the power
Oh please, you had to shit left and right about Stalin or Lenin or communism in general, for months at a time, to be even sent to prison, let alone the Gulag. Gulag was for political prisoners, not some shmuk with a bottle of vodka shouting that Stalin is a pussy.
On the other hand, if you so much as whispered that you’re a US communist during the cold war, you’re on the CIA watch list, that’s for sure.
The US has a massive racialized prison industrial complex. 25% of the world’s prison population. It’s The New Jim Crow. And that’s all before Guantanamo.
Good luck. The USSR collapsed 30+ years ago and was in decline since 50+ years ago. The odds of that person having actually lived through anything other than shock therapy or revisionism are small.
Your parents almost certainly voted to restrict the supply of housing so they could artificially inflate their houses value and retire off of their house.
The causes of the housing shortage are known. We can change it.
You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’ mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi’ his belt.
It a little hard to blame them since they were sold the end of pensions and rise of the 401k. Which the bottom 60% of the country has close to zero of and then they can’t make a living wage because the shareholders demand a greater return every year.
That’s what I’m saying, I’m 32. Idk people keep saying they can’t afford afford a house, it’s called priorities. Most kids want a nice car before getting a house.
True. I want a nice car before getting a house. How the fuck else will I get to my job to pay for my car and house? And by “nice” I mean “won’t break down on the way to my job.” very few of my friends have ever bought a new car.
It’s hard to overstate how different the standards were back then. Much of the housing that was built pre-1940 has been demolished, but if you find an average neighborhood still around from that era, you’ll find tiny 2 bedroom houses in which parents raised often 3 or more kids, and this was the middle class norm. In the US, the average person has way more living space today than back then
I’m 37, say that to my 1 BR apartment me and my fiance live with. I don’t m kw the square footage but maybe 800-900?
I was about 10 when my mom was this age, my middle class parents owned a veritable mansion by today’s standards in a suburban CO town. I think it was 4 bedrooms - one for mom and dad, one for me, one for my brother, and an office/den.
I can’t afford a small 2 bedroom in my city. Hell I can barely afford 1. I wish two bedrooms now were the price they were back then (inflation adjusted of course).
Check out some small towns if you want to see pre war homes. I almost bought a craftsman but ended up with a house built sometime around 1900 (the documents I’ve seen list varying dates) it got an expansion in the 40s and a detached garage in the early 50s, and at some point someone enclosed the porches creating some nice mud rooms and the main floor bathroom appears to have been redone around the 80s or 90s.
My in-laws lived in a 19th century log cabin which had seen several expansions and renovations over the many decades it stood. Ultimately that was it’s downfall though as some old electrical wire caught fire and as it burned the fire just got stuck deep in the layers of wall and ultimately had to be knocked down in order to put out the fire
Most prewar homes that are still standing have seen many expansions and updates and as such are just teaming with character and charm
Ooh until you check the prices of a manufactured home (trailer / caravan) and find out how unaffordable they are. Bonus you can’t get a traditional mortgage for one.
Also only a few companies will insure them. I think Foremost and State Farm were my only two choices. It wasn’t something I considered when I bought my run down double wide manufactured home.
The house I grew up in was a Sears house. Chimneys were stacked stones from where they dug the basement, put together with simple mortar. Concrete was used inside to create the fireplace beds (basement and main floor). Not very complicated to do really.
There is some science and math to ensuring a good draw so the smoke goes up and out and doesn’t get stuck inside. I imagine the instructions from Sears provided some relatively safe rules of thumb to achieve this
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I’m so sorry to hear what you’re dealing with. I think the most important thing we can try to take from the pains, is to try treating others better than we were treated, despite how difficult it might be.
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I mean it could be worse. In an alternate timeline, you could be living in world where the nazis built nukes first and America becomes a fascist puppet state.
It could be even worse than that, Martians could have invaded, turning us all into slave labor and food stock.
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!
Ah yes, I love living in the world where the only thing that could be worse than reality is literal fascist dystopia
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Wait until 2024…
There are also many developing countries in the world. Not saying it justifies the current state of the US, but to put it in perspective, a lot of people still want to come to the US. As an immigrant, I do not wish to go back to my former country, I mean, unless war breaks out or the US becoming a dictatorship or something, but its already too late for me. Once I gotten my US citizenship, my former country revoked my old citizenship.
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I keep on having this debate with my dad. He’s 73 and I’m 37. One night he was like “people from your generation want to buy a ‘starter home’ and a vacation home, and then a few years later buy a bigger home!” and I was like “no one in my generation is even thinking about buying a vacation home when they can barely make a livable wage in a lot of fields.” Teachers make about $25/hour (about 35-40k/year) and they deal with tons of shit from the faculty, state, and students themselves. I was making $112k/year working in IT and could barely afford to live by myself in or close to Manhattan.
The (boomer) generation holds bizarrely strong biases, it could be they subconsciously they do it to avoid admitting they’ve screwed their kids with their political votes, or more likely they simply only care about getting their own and aren’t thinking far enough ahead to realize their being snookered and driving the bus off a cliff.
$112k/yr is a crazy amount of money; I also work in IT in a pretty high up position, I wish I even made half that…
I worked for Disney+ (got laid off about a month ago) as a Linux Systems Engineer, so it’s not like I worked for a small company doing Windows desktop support. It is a significant amount of money, but the taxes screwed me, I’d only see about 85k of it, couple that with 10% tax on everything and the increased prices of living in the most expensive city in the US and it’s not as much as you think it is. About 60% of my monthly income went to rent and bills.
Fair enough! I got offered a job at Nintendo once, probably should’ve taken it in retrospect :(
Yeah, big companies are good but also kinda suck because they lay you off at the drop of a hat as soon as they don’t make as much as they expect.
Depends where you live too
Yeah, in Manhattan that’s like middle class. Making that in a rural or suburban area and you’d be considered wealthy.
What at-home stuff can you do to maintain your teeth? Brushing and flossing twice a day just doesn’t cut it. Brown stuff still eventually builds up around the edges and right above the gum line (although it does take quite a few years). Being obsessive about dental hygiene only delays the buildup and is not sustainable on its own. I may be able to afford dentist appointments now but by the way society is headed, that may not be the case 10 years from now or even next month.
I know. I wish we lived in a communist dystopia.
I lived in USSR. No you do not.
It’s ok. You didn’t. You lived in red fascism.
That would be the “dystopia” part.
I was being sarcastic. I don’t want to live in ANY dystopian system.
Wow that must have been so cool, everyone working together for the common good, no more greed or selfishness.
I like Communism, but stalinist communism isn’t a utopia just because it’s communism
I do wish people would respect the ideals of communism more however, it’s ridiculous to think that letting the people with all the money, land, and resources (i.e capital) should also have all the power
If only there exist a country that could balance the incentives of capitalism and the socialist good of communism hmm.
Could you please elaborate what was so bad back then?
Gulag
The US have Guantanamo, you don’t see them shitting on ther country for it.
How many US citizens who simply orally disagreed with US policy are jailed in Guantanamo?
Oh please, you had to shit left and right about Stalin or Lenin or communism in general, for months at a time, to be even sent to prison, let alone the Gulag. Gulag was for political prisoners, not some shmuk with a bottle of vodka shouting that Stalin is a pussy.
On the other hand, if you so much as whispered that you’re a US communist during the cold war, you’re on the CIA watch list, that’s for sure.
You could be a communist in US (and in many other parties). You could not be in any party other than communist in USSR and be free.
And under Stalin, if you shout that Stalin is a pussy, yes you were going to be arrested.
EVERYONE shits on them for it, including US citizens.
And shitting about it didn’t actually close it down, did it 😒.
Are you from the former ussr? Straight talk for a second.
Anyone with half a brain shits on Guantanamo
And what exactly have you done about that?
What does that have to do with what you originally said?
What exactly do you expect us to do? Storm Cuba ourselves? The US government doesn’t have a habit of doing what I tell it to.
The US has a massive racialized prison industrial complex. 25% of the world’s prison population. It’s The New Jim Crow. And that’s all before Guantanamo.
Good luck. The USSR collapsed 30+ years ago and was in decline since 50+ years ago. The odds of that person having actually lived through anything other than shock therapy or revisionism are small.
Or just a classic socialist democracy would do fine. Doesn’t even need to be dystopian just you know like what they have in Norway and shit.
Your parents almost certainly voted to restrict the supply of housing so they could artificially inflate their houses value and retire off of their house.
The causes of the housing shortage are known. We can change it.
Son, one of these days, this will all be yours!
< gestures at crumbling 1985 tract home in car-dependent community >
Check out the guy with the brand new house!
Luxury. Some day, you’ll have 13 zoomers living in a shoebox in the middle of the road…
You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’ mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi’ his belt.
We were evicted from our paper bag in a septic tank. We had to go live in a lake!
Sounds like it could be a Dylan Moran bit.
A bit older - it’s from the Monty Python “4 Yorkshiremen” sketch.
Ahhh. Thanks. I love Monty Python but haven’t seen all their work.
It a little hard to blame them since they were sold the end of pensions and rise of the 401k. Which the bottom 60% of the country has close to zero of and then they can’t make a living wage because the shareholders demand a greater return every year.
You’re right. It’s basically every Americans dream to buy a house, and sell it for a massive profit.
I bought a house at 31…
And how old are you, what is your socio-economic background lol? It’s kind of relevant if youre arguing the meme.
You could have almost all these things with minimum wage back in the days of this meme. Today min wage barely gets you a roof and a bus pass.
I’m almost 40 and on the verge of buying my first house. Most of it has to do with moving to Europe and funding works a bit different here.
That’s what I’m saying, I’m 32. Idk people keep saying they can’t afford afford a house, it’s called priorities. Most kids want a nice car before getting a house.
True. I want a nice car before getting a house. How the fuck else will I get to my job to pay for my car and house? And by “nice” I mean “won’t break down on the way to my job.” very few of my friends have ever bought a new car.
I have an 06 tacoma with over 430k miles still running great, and my wife and I got a new 2020 camry that year. It’s doable just prioritize.
I dunno why you keep getting down voted… Some people be sour
Idk bro, some people be hating lol
What was your socio-economic background?
I’m lower to middle class, married, have a kid now. I’m a vet tech, so I don’t make much money
So nice of insurance companies to decide that our teeth, eyes, and minds aren’t part of our bodies.
They have to keep profits up and shareholders happy, so they have to see how much more blood they can get from us turnips.
I’m actually surprised this memes instance is actually funny. Yeah i come from red**t
“Kids these days are all gum, no gumption”
Thank you for bringing humor to an otherwise bleak post!
-Abraham Lincoln (for real)
John Wilkes Booth was a real dick. I’m glad he enjoyed some absurdist escape during his life.
My grandparents ordered their house from Sears and grandpa and my great uncles built it over a summer weekend.
Damn thing still standing and is now I think on a historical register.
But today… we can do the same thing. You want a single or double wide?
It’s hard to overstate how different the standards were back then. Much of the housing that was built pre-1940 has been demolished, but if you find an average neighborhood still around from that era, you’ll find tiny 2 bedroom houses in which parents raised often 3 or more kids, and this was the middle class norm. In the US, the average person has way more living space today than back then
I’m 37, say that to my 1 BR apartment me and my fiance live with. I don’t m kw the square footage but maybe 800-900?
I was about 10 when my mom was this age, my middle class parents owned a veritable mansion by today’s standards in a suburban CO town. I think it was 4 bedrooms - one for mom and dad, one for me, one for my brother, and an office/den.
I can’t afford a small 2 bedroom in my city. Hell I can barely afford 1. I wish two bedrooms now were the price they were back then (inflation adjusted of course).
Check out some small towns if you want to see pre war homes. I almost bought a craftsman but ended up with a house built sometime around 1900 (the documents I’ve seen list varying dates) it got an expansion in the 40s and a detached garage in the early 50s, and at some point someone enclosed the porches creating some nice mud rooms and the main floor bathroom appears to have been redone around the 80s or 90s.
My in-laws lived in a 19th century log cabin which had seen several expansions and renovations over the many decades it stood. Ultimately that was it’s downfall though as some old electrical wire caught fire and as it burned the fire just got stuck deep in the layers of wall and ultimately had to be knocked down in order to put out the fire
Most prewar homes that are still standing have seen many expansions and updates and as such are just teaming with character and charm
Ooh until you check the prices of a manufactured home (trailer / caravan) and find out how unaffordable they are. Bonus you can’t get a traditional mortgage for one.
Also only a few companies will insure them. I think Foremost and State Farm were my only two choices. It wasn’t something I considered when I bought my run down double wide manufactured home.
I always wondered how they made the chimneys. Wood construction is fairly straightforward. But masonry seems like another beast.
The house I grew up in was a Sears house. Chimneys were stacked stones from where they dug the basement, put together with simple mortar. Concrete was used inside to create the fireplace beds (basement and main floor). Not very complicated to do really.
There is some science and math to ensuring a good draw so the smoke goes up and out and doesn’t get stuck inside. I imagine the instructions from Sears provided some relatively safe rules of thumb to achieve this
So untrue, just put it downpayment on a 30 yr fixed loan for some dentures.
Damn. You got me there. :D
Feels like we’re already nearing Mad Max with a dash of Blade Runner for an appetizer.