I fired up Dragon Age: Origins today to scratch the itch (I swore I had it somewhere but couldn’t find it) and in a blink of an eye I had already played for four hours straight
And that was enough for me lol I got shit to do and the gaming experience feels different these days. Still enjoyable, though, and god what a throwback
I am replaying Dragon Age: Origins right now also! Same experience for me. I’m trying to watch all dialogue scenes also and let them play out without skipping.
I turn around and a few hours has passed without me even knowing…
Im on lunch with my deck sitting next to me in it’s bag. I just don’t have the energy anymore after work. Hell part of it is every time I get into a game I have to stop to let my dogs out or in and then that steals enjoyment as now I’m watching and waiting for them instead of being immersed. It sucks.
I worked in games for a number of years, so on top of being exhausted coming home, it was near impossible to not fall into work mode when I tried playing games for fun.
Got into making games as a hobby a few years back and it basically made it impossible to play games like I used to. Took a while to separate those parts of my brain.
It definitely takes an active effort to enjoy games when it’s also your work. What worked for me was finding the weird niche stuff that didn’t resemble the stuff I worked on at all. I imagine if you’re a developer that it could also help get the creative juices flowing too.
I relate hard. Multiple times before, I’ve spent hours and hours scouring the internet for a download link to a game, or even a tool or library needed to make it work. I’ll open the folder at 99%, ready to install 0.05 seconds after it’s downloaded. I’ll launch the game just to make sure it runs okay on my system, then give it a little whirl, and even then, it’s rare I’ll ever see beyond the tutorial, if that.
I remember when grinding diablo was something you did because you liked killing endless hordes of monsters. It wasn’t because the game told you to do it.
Also crazy being a fan of 1 and 2 when they were new and having fans of 3 and 4 telling you this and that were always part of the series, clearly showing they have only ever played Diablo 3 and 4 because they’re always things that were first introduced in 3 and were the things that fans prior to 3 criticized when it came out.
@Pavr@nandeEbisu, a nice alternative of Diablo is Eternium, free to play (not pay to win, only options to buy cosmetic parts in the game menu, not needed for advantages in the game), for PC (mouse and keyboard) and optimized also for mobile and tablets with Touchscreen (gestics). Advances are synced between PC and Mobile. Singleplayer. https://store.steampowered.com/app/981600/Eternium/
And also in the Appstore in Android https://www.eterniumgame.com
Diablo is cancer tbh. Mindless grinding, zero skill. The only challenge is creating a nice build but that requires grinding and anyone can copy it from a YouTuber and learn to use it in a few minutes.
Many genres can be called trash for different reasons, lol. I hate rhytm\reaction games, from dancing and playing instruments to fromsoft titles. It’s just I’m not build to enjoy them. But I love Diablo and would try to explain why.
Besides art direction of old Bliz and Matt Uleman’s OST, I like these series for… them being a task in optimization. Some games like building and management simulators are straightforward about it, but there it only shows in the endgame of diabloids. You are to think of theoretical ways of bettering your build, but also inventing the best way to farm X things in the least time possible to make it. I haven’t topped the ladder too many times for looking up others’ builds and copying them steals half of enjoyment from experimenting with it. It touches the same buttons in me as rewriting code for better performance does, and the only downside is me, a meatbag, executing it line by line, that you called mindless for a reason. I just reiterate through my idea before I see the predicted outcome.
That sort of enjoyment also surfaces in other games, like old shooters and RPGs, where I find ways to abuse the system and benefit from it. It’s a casual version of what speedrunners are into. Finding the best\fastest way to do X, but only for you to test and observe.
God of War, Dark Souls, Elden, The Witcher… All of these games have a system to optimiza your character without the need to grind for hours non-stop. Armored Core will also have a complex build system for the mechas.
The problem with Diablo for me is that it is just that, just building a character that hits hard. If you have a good build, everything is waaay too easy unless you are going into dungeons 20 levels above yours. And even then, it doesn’t feel rewarding because killing the enemies isn’t hard, it just takes too long. Like, it was taking me 10 seconds to kill a basic minion, and even that felt better than going into a dungeon and obliterating everything.
Maybe I could enjoy building a character if I didn’t need to spend hours and hours grinding to level up and to get the right items with the right affixes. The grinding is just a torture, I feel I’m wasting my time.
Honestly, I’m shit at clicking right buttons at the right time, so I’m biased :)
But other than that, I don’t feel like I’m needed there. My inputs doesn’t change the flow of the kino that much, they are either correct or incorrect, and I’m either allowing it to continue or being a boulder stopping it from going on. GoW, another GoW, Uncharted and now TLoU for me are benchmarks of gfx and user experience possible on next gen consoles, but they aren’t as interactive as old rpgs and sandboxes I am a fan of. And they are gated behind my inability to react when timings are tight. I dropped some games because it wasn’t fun or wasn’t fair. You can google car chases in Yakuza games – and see many people dropping the game because this sequence was unbearable.
For I don’t really hate this mechanic in games, I only really enjoy it when I know it’d follow my input. As I love some heat actions in Yakuza series – after pressing Y with a weapon to start the animation, you know then you are to mash B to bash your enemy’s head against the obstacle repeatedly, and that feels like an organic response to what I press.
I’m fucking drunk rn but I hope I satisfied your curiosity with that wall of text.
Yeha, those games are kinda like a choreography, you’re not totally free to do whatever you want. You’re very restricted in what you can do and usually you have 1 or 2 options when you need to react.
Based on your input, you should give Breath of the Wild a try. It’s a game in which creativity is the only limit. I didn’t enjoy it that much because the combat is too easy, but then I saw what people can do when they get creative. It’s really insane. I completed the game playing like a noob, never expected those things to be remotely possible, because nobody tells you what to do. Nobody tells you “here’s how you do this insane combo”. People just piece the mechanics together. I guess that’s the beauty of Nintendo in general
Accepting that basic bitch games are actually great helped me a lot. They’re fun and have shitloads of people playing them for a reason. Looking at you Fortnite and Diablo 4.
Also line up your installed game icons in the order they should be played in on the desktop helped a lot. If I’m not sure what to play I load whatever is furthest on the left. First row is single player games. Second row is multiplayer games.
It’s currently Dave the Diver, Diablo 4, and Osu! is permainstalled these days.
Yea there seems to be so much to do that I spend all my time wondering what to do next, only to find that its not that fun and then spending more time traveling to somewhere else
I’m having a lot less fun with totk than I did with botw 😞. It’s like combination of too many quests, too many caves and being forced to build stuff all the time. I just want to climb mountains, glide, find cool weapons and do shrines. I also hate not having the shrine radar like in botw. I feel like I’m roaming blindly and getting 1 shot by enemies all the time
I believe I would have had a better time with Botw if there was a god mode. I just want to explore the world and climb stuff, not having to fight super strong enemies.
I actually do have a set list of stuff that I want to do before beating the game, and getting all the Shrines is on that list. That’s partially why it’s taking so long.
I relate hard. Multiple times before, I’ve spent hours and hours scouring the internet for a download link to a game, or even a tool or library needed to make it work. I’ll open the folder at 99%, ready to install 0.05 seconds after it’s downloaded. I’ll launch the game just to make sure it runs okay on my system, then give it a little whirl, and even then, it’s rare I’ll ever see beyond the tutorial, if that.
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I fired up Dragon Age: Origins today to scratch the itch (I swore I had it somewhere but couldn’t find it) and in a blink of an eye I had already played for four hours straight
And that was enough for me lol I got shit to do and the gaming experience feels different these days. Still enjoyable, though, and god what a throwback
Damn. I loved that game so much. I miss old BioWare RPGs.
I am replaying Dragon Age: Origins right now also! Same experience for me. I’m trying to watch all dialogue scenes also and let them play out without skipping.
I turn around and a few hours has passed without me even knowing…
Finally successful enough to buy systems, buy every system, never play anything.
Im on lunch with my deck sitting next to me in it’s bag. I just don’t have the energy anymore after work. Hell part of it is every time I get into a game I have to stop to let my dogs out or in and then that steals enjoyment as now I’m watching and waiting for them instead of being immersed. It sucks.
I worked in games for a number of years, so on top of being exhausted coming home, it was near impossible to not fall into work mode when I tried playing games for fun.
Got into making games as a hobby a few years back and it basically made it impossible to play games like I used to. Took a while to separate those parts of my brain.
It definitely takes an active effort to enjoy games when it’s also your work. What worked for me was finding the weird niche stuff that didn’t resemble the stuff I worked on at all. I imagine if you’re a developer that it could also help get the creative juices flowing too.
Ouch
watching gaming streams is a good solution
I’m like this with League. I can’t stand playing sometimes but I still enjoy watching
I relate hard. Multiple times before, I’ve spent hours and hours scouring the internet for a download link to a game, or even a tool or library needed to make it work. I’ll open the folder at 99%, ready to install 0.05 seconds after it’s downloaded. I’ll launch the game just to make sure it runs okay on my system, then give it a little whirl, and even then, it’s rare I’ll ever see beyond the tutorial, if that.
This hits hard
My manager talked me into buying Diablo IV since I was into DnD.
I don’t know why people play games that require grinding when there are so many better options.
I remember when grinding diablo was something you did because you liked killing endless hordes of monsters. It wasn’t because the game told you to do it.
Also crazy being a fan of 1 and 2 when they were new and having fans of 3 and 4 telling you this and that were always part of the series, clearly showing they have only ever played Diablo 3 and 4 because they’re always things that were first introduced in 3 and were the things that fans prior to 3 criticized when it came out.
I enjoy Diablo. What are some better alternatives? Diablo 4 is my first rpg
I highly recommend Last Epoch!
@Pavr @nandeEbisu, a nice alternative of Diablo is Eternium, free to play (not pay to win, only options to buy cosmetic parts in the game menu, not needed for advantages in the game), for PC (mouse and keyboard) and optimized also for mobile and tablets with Touchscreen (gestics). Advances are synced between PC and Mobile. Singleplayer.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/981600/Eternium/
And also in the Appstore in Android
https://www.eterniumgame.com
Grim dawn is worth checking out.
Why? KINGMAKER AND BALDURS GATE ARE RIGHT THERE DUDE
Diablo is cancer tbh. Mindless grinding, zero skill. The only challenge is creating a nice build but that requires grinding and anyone can copy it from a YouTuber and learn to use it in a few minutes.
Many genres can be called trash for different reasons, lol. I hate rhytm\reaction games, from dancing and playing instruments to fromsoft titles. It’s just I’m not build to enjoy them. But I love Diablo and would try to explain why.
Besides art direction of old Bliz and Matt Uleman’s OST, I like these series for… them being a task in optimization. Some games like building and management simulators are straightforward about it, but there it only shows in the endgame of diabloids. You are to think of theoretical ways of bettering your build, but also inventing the best way to farm X things in the least time possible to make it. I haven’t topped the ladder too many times for looking up others’ builds and copying them steals half of enjoyment from experimenting with it. It touches the same buttons in me as rewriting code for better performance does, and the only downside is me, a meatbag, executing it line by line, that you called mindless for a reason. I just reiterate through my idea before I see the predicted outcome.
That sort of enjoyment also surfaces in other games, like old shooters and RPGs, where I find ways to abuse the system and benefit from it. It’s a casual version of what speedrunners are into. Finding the best\fastest way to do X, but only for you to test and observe.
God of War, Dark Souls, Elden, The Witcher… All of these games have a system to optimiza your character without the need to grind for hours non-stop. Armored Core will also have a complex build system for the mechas.
The problem with Diablo for me is that it is just that, just building a character that hits hard. If you have a good build, everything is waaay too easy unless you are going into dungeons 20 levels above yours. And even then, it doesn’t feel rewarding because killing the enemies isn’t hard, it just takes too long. Like, it was taking me 10 seconds to kill a basic minion, and even that felt better than going into a dungeon and obliterating everything.
Maybe I could enjoy building a character if I didn’t need to spend hours and hours grinding to level up and to get the right items with the right affixes. The grinding is just a torture, I feel I’m wasting my time.
As I feel my time wasted playing souls-likes :)
Yeha, it’s fine. Everyone is allowed to have preferences. Why do you feel games like God of War are a waste of time?
Honestly, I’m shit at clicking right buttons at the right time, so I’m biased :)
But other than that, I don’t feel like I’m needed there. My inputs doesn’t change the flow of the kino that much, they are either correct or incorrect, and I’m either allowing it to continue or being a boulder stopping it from going on. GoW, another GoW, Uncharted and now TLoU for me are benchmarks of gfx and user experience possible on next gen consoles, but they aren’t as interactive as old rpgs and sandboxes I am a fan of. And they are gated behind my inability to react when timings are tight. I dropped some games because it wasn’t fun or wasn’t fair. You can google car chases in Yakuza games – and see many people dropping the game because this sequence was unbearable.
For I don’t really hate this mechanic in games, I only really enjoy it when I know it’d follow my input. As I love some heat actions in Yakuza series – after pressing Y with a weapon to start the animation, you know then you are to mash B to bash your enemy’s head against the obstacle repeatedly, and that feels like an organic response to what I press.
I’m fucking drunk rn but I hope I satisfied your curiosity with that wall of text.
Yeha, those games are kinda like a choreography, you’re not totally free to do whatever you want. You’re very restricted in what you can do and usually you have 1 or 2 options when you need to react.
Based on your input, you should give Breath of the Wild a try. It’s a game in which creativity is the only limit. I didn’t enjoy it that much because the combat is too easy, but then I saw what people can do when they get creative. It’s really insane. I completed the game playing like a noob, never expected those things to be remotely possible, because nobody tells you what to do. Nobody tells you “here’s how you do this insane combo”. People just piece the mechanics together. I guess that’s the beauty of Nintendo in general
Lol, that was actually pretty coherent.
Like playing game, grinding isn’t that bad if you don’t like the base of the game grinding is going to look like a pain.
I relate to this too much … I’ll play through my library eventually
Right??
Lol no
Yeha sure… Why not.
I hope steam’s still going strong when I retire.
Put your steam account in your will
Accepting that basic bitch games are actually great helped me a lot. They’re fun and have shitloads of people playing them for a reason. Looking at you Fortnite and Diablo 4.
Also line up your installed game icons in the order they should be played in on the desktop helped a lot. If I’m not sure what to play I load whatever is furthest on the left. First row is single player games. Second row is multiplayer games.
It’s currently Dave the Diver, Diablo 4, and Osu! is permainstalled these days.
Hardspace Shipbreaker is hella relaxing if you play it on untimed mode, btw.
That’s why I’m so glad to WFH, it saves both time and energy.
True, I run both PC and mac all weekdays, some times I game and work simultaneously lol
I am still too tired after a day of WFH
Me too…but at least now I sleep a bit more because I don’t have to commute between home and office…
Me when a game is longer than 30 hours or not a FromSoft title
Haha I agree! Fromsoftware games are among the few that are addictive for me even if I’m tried.
Now I’m stuck in TOTK. I want to complete it so I can move on with other games. (I hate leaving single player games unfinished).
This is me trying to finish Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.
I have fallen asleep multiple times playing that game. The stable music is perfect if you’re trying to drift off to sleep. Something about that flute…
Yea there seems to be so much to do that I spend all my time wondering what to do next, only to find that its not that fun and then spending more time traveling to somewhere else
I’m having a lot less fun with totk than I did with botw 😞. It’s like combination of too many quests, too many caves and being forced to build stuff all the time. I just want to climb mountains, glide, find cool weapons and do shrines. I also hate not having the shrine radar like in botw. I feel like I’m roaming blindly and getting 1 shot by enemies all the time
You can get the shrine radar in TotK
I believe I would have had a better time with Botw if there was a god mode. I just want to explore the world and climb stuff, not having to fight super strong enemies.
Continue with Robbie’s questline. You get the shrine sensor and more. I loved the purah pad upgrades in totk.
I actually do have a set list of stuff that I want to do before beating the game, and getting all the Shrines is on that list. That’s partially why it’s taking so long.
I relate hard. Multiple times before, I’ve spent hours and hours scouring the internet for a download link to a game, or even a tool or library needed to make it work. I’ll open the folder at 99%, ready to install 0.05 seconds after it’s downloaded. I’ll launch the game just to make sure it runs okay on my system, then give it a little whirl, and even then, it’s rare I’ll ever see beyond the tutorial, if that.
I feel like my steam library is just an ode to all the game streams I’ve watched.