Maybe. I’m finding the Lemmy content and platform features lacking personally. Some of my favorite subs don’t have an analogue here, and the clones here are significantly smaller and therefore have less content. I see great potential though, which is why I think “stealing” content is a sound strategy to grow. I find it interesting also, because there are two reasons people use Reddit: The content and the platform. One of those things isn’t actually owned by Reddit. So Lemmy has the distinct advantage in that there is already a good platform in place, and all the good content of Reddit (and half of it’s value) can be moved over here.
I just checked Lemmy stats - how is it possible that we lost 400 000 users recently? If people check it out and leave for good, wouldn’t that still be counted in the user base?
On top of the other explanations, it’s natural that many, if not most, who decide to check out alternatives don’t stick around for various reasons.
They might not have found the right instance for them (or even realized they were supposed to).
They might not care enough about the new state of reddit to leave, after all.
The communities that kept them on reddit in the first place may not exist here so they have no incentive to stick around.
The bugs, growing pains, quirks, and rough UX might have outweighed perceived benefits.
They may have been put off by the model or culture for whatever personal/ideological reasons.
They might still be using fediverse platforms but isolated by fediblocks or by their own choice.
They may or may not reconsider in the future, or their usage of the internet may have changed entirely (so they’re out of the game, so to speak).
We should just keep doing what we think is best for the kind of communities we want to see emerge and thrive here. Growth for its own sake is not helpful or valuable.
Probably has a lot to do with the shitpost meme communities fucking up the feed. I’d bail too if I didn’t think that shit will dry up once the kids find something else to do.
I mean, the content here lately is 15 year old memes.
A lot of the boom is people that were too lame to get karma on Reddit so they spam dumb things here now and get upvotes because everyone is still in “upvote everything to help the community” mode.
I think you hit the nail on the head, but personally, I stopped upvoting “to help the community” a while ago. Lemmy seems to be doing fine now so I’m not against downvoting at all either.
The people upvoting those crappy 15 year old memes aren’t against downvoting either, because when I mentioned how terrible the memes were I got downvoted.
I feel you. I still think it might be worth stealing what is worth stealing, if you know what I mean. There’s definitely still good content creators over on Reddit.
Like the others say, there’s a downside as it blocks all content from accounts marked as bots by their creator. But on the website of your instance, clixk your name at the top right (or on mobile, hamburger button then click your name), then click Settings. The option is in there, and in my experience generally will sync through to any app you use. Your app may have a way to set this as well.
Only for accounts actually labeled as a bot. Thats basically just a flag that can be turned on and off, someone who is going to make a bot for malicious purposes such as spamming content probably won’t flag it properly.
well, yes, i dont think there’s anything stopping you from doing that in any way. But the bot account flag is basically just honor system is my point. I wouldn’t expect it to be a rock-solid way to deal with bots. Only the good/non-malicious actors are going to properly label themselves.
I don’t count posting a link you saw on Reddit as “taking top content from reddit and posting it here” so much as taking top memes and text posts. I do think bots should not be the ones doing it though, users should post links they find interesting. If that link came from Reddit it’s functionally no differerent than if it came from the Yahoo news page or the outlet itself.
In the past few years, a huge proportion of posts that made it to the front page are same stuff reposted over and over again. Maybe it’s good to have a fresh start.
I wanted to the first few days I was here, but the subs I would have done it for already had nothing being posted because all the content finders/makers left and started posting here in the reciprocating communities. The only thing left on Reddit are the dregs I wouldn’t even stop and get a better look at the thumbnail of while I scrolled.
Because for better or for worse, Lemmy needs to be able to sustain itself and not have to rely on Reddit for content. Personally I’m really enjoying Lemmy so far.
Adding on to this: I’d rather see the Fediverse not become just Reddit 2.0. I personally very much like the vibes and communities we already got going on already.
I really, really don’t want the current Reddit where admin allows blatant adverts in posts, racism and homophobia and bans people who encourage protests.
Neither am I! Totally! Not one bit… after all, far be it from me, a humble peon, to pull traffic away from the content Spez has claimed as his personal fiefdom.
The counter question is: why would that be an improvement?
For me, the stuff with the 3PAs was just a final straw; there were lots of ways Reddit had gone downhill from when I first joined several years ago. I was happy that they was finally a workable alternative that was young and could potentially grow without the bad things about Reddit.
My ex wife is an ex for a reason, I’d never ask my wife now to try to be more like my ex. We can do better.
Isn’t that the point of voting? Keep the good parts of your ex so to speak. I’m definitely bored by the content here. Someone pointed out that this community is overwhelmed by millennial techies and it shows. Don’t get me wrong, I am one of those but damn I want more variety in perspective here
A number of people made bots to copy stuff over from Reddit, and that didn’t seem to create any more engagement in most cases, so I don’t see that as helping. I made my account here June 12th, so not that long ago, and the amount and variety of content has increased a lot. Too many memes for my tastes, but the place is clearly still growing. I think it’s doing well, considering.
If anyone didn’t get what OP mean, some Lemmy communities repost reddit content while providing link to original reddit post and name the original author. One such community is todayifoundout
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@DrTautology There is nothing wrong to do that.
There’s just no need anymore. Lemmy has boomed, and we have our own content. Reddit is not really relevant anymore.
Maybe. I’m finding the Lemmy content and platform features lacking personally. Some of my favorite subs don’t have an analogue here, and the clones here are significantly smaller and therefore have less content. I see great potential though, which is why I think “stealing” content is a sound strategy to grow. I find it interesting also, because there are two reasons people use Reddit: The content and the platform. One of those things isn’t actually owned by Reddit. So Lemmy has the distinct advantage in that there is already a good platform in place, and all the good content of Reddit (and half of it’s value) can be moved over here.
I just checked Lemmy stats - how is it possible that we lost 400 000 users recently? If people check it out and leave for good, wouldn’t that still be counted in the user base?
On top of the other explanations, it’s natural that many, if not most, who decide to check out alternatives don’t stick around for various reasons.
They may or may not reconsider in the future, or their usage of the internet may have changed entirely (so they’re out of the game, so to speak).
We should just keep doing what we think is best for the kind of communities we want to see emerge and thrive here. Growth for its own sake is not helpful or valuable.
Probably has a lot to do with the shitpost meme communities fucking up the feed. I’d bail too if I didn’t think that shit will dry up once the kids find something else to do.
There were a bunch of fake accounts created, and there has been effort to remove them
I mean, the content here lately is 15 year old memes.
A lot of the boom is people that were too lame to get karma on Reddit so they spam dumb things here now and get upvotes because everyone is still in “upvote everything to help the community” mode.
And before that it was beans. We have our own rich meme history
Admittedly I’ve blocked the meme communities in my feed - but that’s not what I wanted from Reddit or I want from here.
Yes, only a few are left visible for me like programmerhumor because I enjoy those but the rest is just noise for me
Same
I think you hit the nail on the head, but personally, I stopped upvoting “to help the community” a while ago. Lemmy seems to be doing fine now so I’m not against downvoting at all either.
The people upvoting those crappy 15 year old memes aren’t against downvoting either, because when I mentioned how terrible the memes were I got downvoted.
I feel you. I still think it might be worth stealing what is worth stealing, if you know what I mean. There’s definitely still good content creators over on Reddit.
the only content on reddit is bots reposting shit… and Spez playing the sad trombone.
Steve is playing with his penis on the reddit front page? And he thinks anyone will pay for that? 🤣
Theres plenty of bots doing that
fun fact, if you block the bots when you see them they go away :)
Fun fact, if you change the setting in your account to not see bot posts then they go away :)
wait… you can do that?
Can I learn this power?! how does one learn this power?
Like the others say, there’s a downside as it blocks all content from accounts marked as bots by their creator. But on the website of your instance, clixk your name at the top right (or on mobile, hamburger button then click your name), then click Settings. The option is in there, and in my experience generally will sync through to any app you use. Your app may have a way to set this as well.
You’ll miss out on useful bots, like the one that rewrites Lemmy links so they work right.
Only for accounts actually labeled as a bot. Thats basically just a flag that can be turned on and off, someone who is going to make a bot for malicious purposes such as spamming content probably won’t flag it properly.
It would be bad form to make an account labeled as a bot and just post from it normally, right?
well, yes, i dont think there’s anything stopping you from doing that in any way. But the bot account flag is basically just honor system is my point. I wouldn’t expect it to be a rock-solid way to deal with bots. Only the good/non-malicious actors are going to properly label themselves.
Because we’re not 9gag. Lemmy is supposed to be better not derivative.
It’s a link aggregator, there’s nothing wrong with that.
I don’t count posting a link you saw on Reddit as “taking top content from reddit and posting it here” so much as taking top memes and text posts. I do think bots should not be the ones doing it though, users should post links they find interesting. If that link came from Reddit it’s functionally no differerent than if it came from the Yahoo news page or the outlet itself.
How dare you suggest reposting things from other websites! I have never been so shocked and scandalized in my life!
In the past few years, a huge proportion of posts that made it to the front page are same stuff reposted over and over again. Maybe it’s good to have a fresh start.
I wanted to the first few days I was here, but the subs I would have done it for already had nothing being posted because all the content finders/makers left and started posting here in the reciprocating communities. The only thing left on Reddit are the dregs I wouldn’t even stop and get a better look at the thumbnail of while I scrolled.
I don’t want to spam Lemmy with trash.
What’s Reddit? -
I just went and saw the top all time feed of r/all and… I’m good. Rather not pollute this place like that.
Because for better or for worse, Lemmy needs to be able to sustain itself and not have to rely on Reddit for content. Personally I’m really enjoying Lemmy so far.
Adding on to this: I’d rather see the Fediverse not become just Reddit 2.0. I personally very much like the vibes and communities we already got going on already.
I really, really don’t want the current Reddit where admin allows blatant adverts in posts, racism and homophobia and bans people who encourage protests.
Seems like you haven’t been to Lemmit
Wait, you guys aren’t?
Ummm…
Neither am I! Totally! Not one bit… after all, far be it from me, a humble peon, to pull traffic away from the content Spez has claimed as his personal fiefdom.
The counter question is: why would that be an improvement?
For me, the stuff with the 3PAs was just a final straw; there were lots of ways Reddit had gone downhill from when I first joined several years ago. I was happy that they was finally a workable alternative that was young and could potentially grow without the bad things about Reddit.
My ex wife is an ex for a reason, I’d never ask my wife now to try to be more like my ex. We can do better.
Isn’t that the point of voting? Keep the good parts of your ex so to speak. I’m definitely bored by the content here. Someone pointed out that this community is overwhelmed by millennial techies and it shows. Don’t get me wrong, I am one of those but damn I want more variety in perspective here
A number of people made bots to copy stuff over from Reddit, and that didn’t seem to create any more engagement in most cases, so I don’t see that as helping. I made my account here June 12th, so not that long ago, and the amount and variety of content has increased a lot. Too many memes for my tastes, but the place is clearly still growing. I think it’s doing well, considering.
Very well said.
So, you don’t see the bots?
If anyone didn’t get what OP mean, some Lemmy communities repost reddit content while providing link to original reddit post and name the original author. One such community is todayifoundout
I might have turned that off day 1.
Because we’re not Reddit?