doesn’t help that printer ink is one of the most expensive liquids in the world and the whole business model of printer companies is based on selling overpriced ink, so much so that they sell printers at a loss and then try to block out third party cartridges
You don’t get the same quantity of ink in the cartridges.
When I used to sell computer equipment, I knew the numbers and while I don’t know them specifically now, I can assure you the multi billion dollar companies didn’t start putting more ink in the cartridges that come with their printers. They are starter cartridges and print only a portion of the pages replacement cartridges will print. In my day, the cartridges that came with Epson, canon, Lexmark, and HP (the brands we sold) typically had 20-30% of the capacity. Once in awhile Epson would sell a printer with full cartridges as a promo.
I mean, you’ve already made a bad choice going with an inkjet. Buying more ink is a bad decision. So is buying a new printer but you might get better features
And if anything you’re part of a nice metric that shows buying replacement ink isn’t happening
it started with low on cyan, so I did what it asked for and replaced the whole ink set, but then found out that the previous ink has dried on the ink tuner since I haven’t used the printer for ~6 months and didn’t feel like spending any more money on this shit.
So I got my myself a laser brother printer and it’s been kicking for over 6 years now
I have a Pixma mx922 and it just works for what I need. I recently replaced all the inks and they all looked empty and the printer said I had plenty left in everything but cyan. It’s dumb enough it’ll run out of ink if you let it. I love it.
my parent bought a HP deskjet printer for us, but the ink is so expensive that any picture needs be small that the ink don’t run out as quickly. and the software is garbage too.
Expensive refills on ink/toner I can accept. It’s been like that forever. What I can not accept is how useless the HP printer/scanner is without HP smart. In windows I literally cannot do anything unless I’m signed into their stupid service. In Linux I just grab generic drivers and do whatever I want. So it’s obviously not baked into the printer. I can’t wait to get a new one from another brand, just need one good reason to make more e-waste.
I was in the market this year so shopping around laser color ones I noticed the reviews for even the Brother said it would brick your printer if you use 3rd party toners. So just look before you buy. I ended up buying their more expensive one because of that, but still not entirely sure its 3rd party compatible. Ill research whether thats the case when my toner needs replaced.
I have a brother laser printer. Best printer I’ve had so far. 3 years on the same toner cart; at my pace I’d have replaced the ink 2 or 3 times already.
It’s fairly easy (drill hole, inject ink with syringe, seal hole with soldering iron) but it’s pretty messy. It’s good to have a work area you can fuck up and latex gloves are a good idea. I don’t know how to reset the chips, but I keep a set of new full cartridges separate from the ones I refill and when the dialog shows up saying the printer is out of ink (even when the refilled cartridges are nearly full) I just pop in the new carts and print one page of something, then put the refilled carts back in and they’ll work for a few weeks until I have to do it again.
Well worth it financially - a set of new carts is $70 whereas $30 of raw ink + syringes will refill the carts like 10 times or so.
I got a used brother that had ever only printed one toner cartridges worth of prints, for 15€. It even has wifi, definitely one of the better buys I’ve made. I only need to print a handful of times a year so I anticipate it’ll last me for years and years.
canon ones are decent too (if thry didn’t change them since i bought my iSensys MF3010, that thing still works great, except drivers. They work perfectly but are almost impossible to find on the canon website nowadays; works fine on linux too without drivers)
my lazer canon mf3010 scans just fine even without a cartridge installed at all.
I kinda like that printer actually.
no drm, no wifi, no fancy-ass touchscreens, no bullshit.
it just prints and scans.
never complains about low ink until it’s so low the text is barely visible anyway.
The last printer I bought was a shitty $80 Samsung Laser Printer that still works on its original toner after 10 years. The print quality is terrible but it’s still the best deal I ever had on a printer.
This is how printers get introduced to VERY FAST crowbars.
Get a laserjet.
Whenever these plastic fucking pieces of shit misbehave, I get interested in thermal depolymerization again. I’d like to start removing microplastics from our environment, slow as it takes. I need to build an electric kiln and some way to keep the decomposition chamber inside oxygen-free…
As somebody who didn’t, for once, have this specific problem today, but had a printing problem nonetheless, I feel so triggered by this post.
Why the actual fuck is printing so much harder today than it was a decade ago. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills that we are halfway through 2023 and I have more printing issues than I did even 4-5 years ago, let alone back in the golden days of literally never having printing issues in the first half of my lifetime.
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I will never not tell people how my old HP still works on cheap refills. HP will never see another dime from me.
They were once capable.
doesn’t help that printer ink is one of the most expensive liquids in the world and the whole business model of printer companies is based on selling overpriced ink, so much so that they sell printers at a loss and then try to block out third party cartridges
That’s why i just buy a new printer each time. Fuck them
The sad thing is that’s basically what they encourage. So wasteful. Because they want you on a subscription model.
This isn’t cheaper for the consumer
Sure it is. Replacing all the ink is the same price or more
You don’t get the same quantity of ink in the cartridges.
When I used to sell computer equipment, I knew the numbers and while I don’t know them specifically now, I can assure you the multi billion dollar companies didn’t start putting more ink in the cartridges that come with their printers. They are starter cartridges and print only a portion of the pages replacement cartridges will print. In my day, the cartridges that came with Epson, canon, Lexmark, and HP (the brands we sold) typically had 20-30% of the capacity. Once in awhile Epson would sell a printer with full cartridges as a promo.
I mean, you’ve already made a bad choice going with an inkjet. Buying more ink is a bad decision. So is buying a new printer but you might get better features
And if anything you’re part of a nice metric that shows buying replacement ink isn’t happening
That’s why I’m smart, I didn’t get a inkjet, I got a DESKJET 🤪
Ahh yes that’s different :). Who fills their cartridges with desks though?
That’s playing into the system. Buy a decent laser printer and be done.
Fuck my printer ink is like $20 for 3 of all 4 colors and the larger black cartridge it has. I love my Canon.
I tossed my Canon ink printer in the trash lol.
it started with low on cyan, so I did what it asked for and replaced the whole ink set, but then found out that the previous ink has dried on the ink tuner since I haven’t used the printer for ~6 months and didn’t feel like spending any more money on this shit.
So I got my myself a laser brother printer and it’s been kicking for over 6 years now
I have a Pixma mx922 and it just works for what I need. I recently replaced all the inks and they all looked empty and the printer said I had plenty left in everything but cyan. It’s dumb enough it’ll run out of ink if you let it. I love it.
But yeah if I needed a new one I’d go laser.
We’re not going anywhere until you pay up!
my parent bought a HP deskjet printer for us, but the ink is so expensive that any picture needs be small that the ink don’t run out as quickly. and the software is garbage too.
What does HP stand for? I think this post isn’t related to health points or Harry Potter.
“Hold Please”. I have a Pagewide 8000XL and a HP Latex L360. These things are always in a “please wait” state.
Horrible Products
Hewlett Packard
HP is a brand that makes printers. But more recently they’ve started moving into the ink / ink subscription business.
Or it maybe stands for HungryPhrog???
Am I the worst? :(
Absolutely not. I just skimmed your post history here on Lemmy. You seem like good people.
:)
No one’s worse than Hewlitt Packard
Expensive refills on ink/toner I can accept. It’s been like that forever. What I can not accept is how useless the HP printer/scanner is without HP smart. In windows I literally cannot do anything unless I’m signed into their stupid service. In Linux I just grab generic drivers and do whatever I want. So it’s obviously not baked into the printer. I can’t wait to get a new one from another brand, just need one good reason to make more e-waste.
When you lack black ink, the printer judt grabs the other colors until it makes black. Wich is kind of annoying since it’s the cheapest toner.
buy a Brother, or better yet a laser printer.
I was in the market this year so shopping around laser color ones I noticed the reviews for even the Brother said it would brick your printer if you use 3rd party toners. So just look before you buy. I ended up buying their more expensive one because of that, but still not entirely sure its 3rd party compatible. Ill research whether thats the case when my toner needs replaced.
I have a brother laser printer. Best printer I’ve had so far. 3 years on the same toner cart; at my pace I’d have replaced the ink 2 or 3 times already.
I’ll only buy Brother printers now. The print quality is pretty good and they just work on my Linux desktop.
How hard is it to refill ink cartridges for Brother printers?
I can’t speak for all of them, but mine is pretty easy. Their ink cartridges are expensive too, but there’s really good third-party options on Amazon
It’s fairly easy (drill hole, inject ink with syringe, seal hole with soldering iron) but it’s pretty messy. It’s good to have a work area you can fuck up and latex gloves are a good idea. I don’t know how to reset the chips, but I keep a set of new full cartridges separate from the ones I refill and when the dialog shows up saying the printer is out of ink (even when the refilled cartridges are nearly full) I just pop in the new carts and print one page of something, then put the refilled carts back in and they’ll work for a few weeks until I have to do it again.
Well worth it financially - a set of new carts is $70 whereas $30 of raw ink + syringes will refill the carts like 10 times or so.
Even scanning over the network works on Linux on my Brother MFP. I really didn’t expect that.
Bought a brother printer. Ink jet still sucks. Switched to brother laser printer. Never looked back. Go laser.
Right on brother!.. Write on!
Obligatory “buy a Brother B&W laser printer” comment
They’re actually more economical than modern HP printers because of their anti-consumer BS.
I got a used brother that had ever only printed one toner cartridges worth of prints, for 15€. It even has wifi, definitely one of the better buys I’ve made. I only need to print a handful of times a year so I anticipate it’ll last me for years and years.
Obligatory “buy a bottle printer” comment.
canon ones are decent too (if thry didn’t change them since i bought my iSensys MF3010, that thing still works great, except drivers. They work perfectly but are almost impossible to find on the canon website nowadays; works fine on linux too without drivers)
My color brother laser is great. I needed color but either option is the better one
My Canon wouldn’t scan a document to store on my PC because I was out of yellow ink
I haven’t given them another cent and it’s been 15 years. Fuck you Canon. Fuck you HP
my lazer canon mf3010 scans just fine even without a cartridge installed at all.
I kinda like that printer actually.
no drm, no wifi, no fancy-ass touchscreens, no bullshit.
it just prints and scans.
never complains about low ink until it’s so low the text is barely visible anyway.
Maybe they changed it, but it wouldn’t let me back then. Definitely not going back
They have to print the invisible printer identification dots somehow.
huh
Printers print very small dots on the sheet of paper you print so it canbe identified. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code
TIL
Those are yellow, the cyan is mixed with black
I just buy a new printer each time it runs out of ink
Probably cheaper in the long-run lol
The cartridges that come with printers are reduced volume.
The last printer I bought was a shitty $80 Samsung Laser Printer that still works on its original toner after 10 years. The print quality is terrible but it’s still the best deal I ever had on a printer.
This is how printers get introduced to VERY FAST crowbars.
Get a laserjet.
Whenever these plastic fucking pieces of shit misbehave, I get interested in thermal depolymerization again. I’d like to start removing microplastics from our environment, slow as it takes. I need to build an electric kiln and some way to keep the decomposition chamber inside oxygen-free…
As somebody who didn’t, for once, have this specific problem today, but had a printing problem nonetheless, I feel so triggered by this post.
Why the actual fuck is printing so much harder today than it was a decade ago. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills that we are halfway through 2023 and I have more printing issues than I did even 4-5 years ago, let alone back in the golden days of literally never having printing issues in the first half of my lifetime.