Exactly, thinking and talking about these things is perfectly alright and at 20 they are all quite new to you, so it’s very reasonable to be excited about them.
None of those things are negatives, this is just anti-intellectualism. Maybe OP has been corrected by douches in the past. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks OP is trying to normalize shaming critical thinking while finding like-minded individuals.
Or this is an attempt at even more critical thinking, i.e. “These are fine concepts, but if you don’t reckon with the context of what you’re talking about before throwing one of these out because it kinda fits you actually bring conversations down and keep people from exchanging more pertinent ideas and information.”
They probably could have communicated that better if that was their intent, but that’d probably kill any humor potential which was probably more of a priority here.
Fair enough, just to be clear this was just my own initial reaction to this meme and I have not done any investigation into whether OP is an asshat or not, and this is the sort of thing an asshat-y person could say
Yeah I’ve noticed an uptick in atheists on lemmy recently, I don’t support religon at all because of dogma but I also will never support atheism either
The athiest Community particularly on reddit liked to frame things negatively and mock and attack people through generalisations
This image shares that and that’s what I noticed and decided to make my comment on that
I probably should have mentioned in my previous comment that I noticed the similarities
These topics mentioned in the image have no reason to be framed in a negative light because they are not inherently negative
Anyone can use them for any intention, good or bad
And some of them can be used in discussion about scientific topics
I’ve noticed that athiests claim they support science but they still mock and attack anyone using science to constructively criticise them or scientific claims they support
Science needs to have criticism, praise and discussion from all sides, not just one
No I’m saying that athiests also typically post these kinds of memes typically the athiest Community on reddit and the side of the athiest Community that attacks, mocks argues in bad faith and enact online witch-hunts
And just to make it clear I’m not athiest and I do not support religons
Maybe I’m a dork, but I think“correlation does not equal causation” is actually a good thing to keep in mind.
I’m reminded of it every time a news story says something is “linked” to something else. I hate it when the word “linked” is used in this way. It’s often lazy journalism and/or a scare tactic. Saying that two things are “linked” implies a stronger relationship than may actually exist. I find it deliberately misleading.
Almost everything on the picture is a good thing to keep in mind. But the creator of the meme depicted it as a thought of a soyjack so there is nothing can be done, we now should abandon that logic entirely.
I mostly agree with you, but it’s often used as a phrase to shut down further discussion even when there could be an invisible third event that’s the cause for the two seemingly unrelated events. It’s gets over used by people who want to be quick to sound smart.
That phrase is used exactly to say that there is a third unseen force influencing both events. It’d be pretty strange to use that phrase to say the opposite.
Typically further discussion of the 3rd event isn’t relevant, because they’re not trying to find the cause, they’re trying to disprove a hypothesis.
There could just be no connection at all. Like how there’s a positive correlation between shark attacks and box office sales for Nick Cage movies. There might be some relation between them, but more likely there is no link and it’s just random noise that happens to line up particularly well.
The reason why you might see it used as an end statement is because there is no data or clear logical link between the subjects which were correlated. It’s basically saying “unless you have some reason to believe they’re linked, you should probably assume they’re not”
It’s at its worst when a paper describes how they account for correlation or designed their experiment to confirm causation, but someone doesn’t read the paper and says the line anyway.
You don’t need to read the paper but don’t try to act smart if you can’t be bothered.
It’s like the normie maths meme where soyjak enjoys the monty hall problem and the infinite room hotel but hasn’t heard of the boring old theorems people learn in college
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I don’t see anything wrong with any of it. Why is thinking or speaking of any of those things being framed as a negative?
Exactly, thinking and talking about these things is perfectly alright and at 20 they are all quite new to you, so it’s very reasonable to be excited about them.
How dare young people not appreciate the intricacies and nuance of the world? Harrumph! I say.
None of those things are negatives, this is just anti-intellectualism. Maybe OP has been corrected by douches in the past. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks OP is trying to normalize shaming critical thinking while finding like-minded individuals.
Or this is an attempt at even more critical thinking, i.e. “These are fine concepts, but if you don’t reckon with the context of what you’re talking about before throwing one of these out because it kinda fits you actually bring conversations down and keep people from exchanging more pertinent ideas and information.”
They probably could have communicated that better if that was their intent, but that’d probably kill any humor potential which was probably more of a priority here.
I think you’re being extremely generous to OP.
Fair enough, just to be clear this was just my own initial reaction to this meme and I have not done any investigation into whether OP is an asshat or not, and this is the sort of thing an asshat-y person could say
You must be fun at parties. Maybe it’s just self-deprecating humour?
I mean, I don’t talk propaganda at parties, do you?
Yeah I’ve noticed an uptick in atheists on lemmy recently, I don’t support religon at all because of dogma but I also will never support atheism either
So you’re an atheist, right?
No I’m not
Which god do you believe in?
What does any of that have to do with atheism?
The athiest Community particularly on reddit liked to frame things negatively and mock and attack people through generalisations
This image shares that and that’s what I noticed and decided to make my comment on that
I probably should have mentioned in my previous comment that I noticed the similarities
These topics mentioned in the image have no reason to be framed in a negative light because they are not inherently negative
Anyone can use them for any intention, good or bad
And some of them can be used in discussion about scientific topics
I’ve noticed that athiests claim they support science but they still mock and attack anyone using science to constructively criticise them or scientific claims they support
Science needs to have criticism, praise and discussion from all sides, not just one
He’s stereotyping atheists as the kind of people to act the way the character in the meme does.
No I’m saying that athiests also typically post these kinds of memes typically the athiest Community on reddit and the side of the athiest Community that attacks, mocks argues in bad faith and enact online witch-hunts
And just to make it clear I’m not athiest and I do not support religons
That’s popular science. On the one hand, it looks shallow, but that just shows that people are curious, and that’s okay.
It’s Scienceface. You talk to them long enough and you realize they believe in Atlantis and flat earth.
Where the hell did you find the term “Scienceface”. I just checked with Google Trends and there’s not enough instances to chart any use.
Maybe they made it up themselves, it’s just a portmanteau of science+blackface
I know what it’s a portmanteau of. It’s fucking stupid.
but i am a fiat earther ;.;
I’m sure we can make you a 3D version of yourself soon enough
What’s the venn diagram with this and katana owners look like?
If your sword didn’t come from a mall, it’s not a real sword.
Maybe I’m a dork, but I think“correlation does not equal causation” is actually a good thing to keep in mind.
I’m reminded of it every time a news story says something is “linked” to something else. I hate it when the word “linked” is used in this way. It’s often lazy journalism and/or a scare tactic. Saying that two things are “linked” implies a stronger relationship than may actually exist. I find it deliberately misleading.
Almost everything on the picture is a good thing to keep in mind. But the creator of the meme depicted it as a thought of a soyjack so there is nothing can be done, we now should abandon that logic entirely.
I mostly agree with you, but it’s often used as a phrase to shut down further discussion even when there could be an invisible third event that’s the cause for the two seemingly unrelated events. It’s gets over used by people who want to be quick to sound smart.
That phrase is used exactly to say that there is a third unseen force influencing both events. It’d be pretty strange to use that phrase to say the opposite.
Typically further discussion of the 3rd event isn’t relevant, because they’re not trying to find the cause, they’re trying to disprove a hypothesis.
I’ve seen it used to end discussions. People repeat the wisdom of the phrase without understanding what you just said.
There could just be no connection at all. Like how there’s a positive correlation between shark attacks and box office sales for Nick Cage movies. There might be some relation between them, but more likely there is no link and it’s just random noise that happens to line up particularly well.
The reason why you might see it used as an end statement is because there is no data or clear logical link between the subjects which were correlated. It’s basically saying “unless you have some reason to believe they’re linked, you should probably assume they’re not”
I personally prefer the pastafarianism-ism about global warming and Caribbean pirate prevalence.
It’s at its worst when a paper describes how they account for correlation or designed their experiment to confirm causation, but someone doesn’t read the paper and says the line anyway.
You don’t need to read the paper but don’t try to act smart if you can’t be bothered.
That and “this is worthless, they only tested 10 000 people” are the worst
I‘m in this picture and I don’t like it…
Learning philosophy (and sciences, arts, etc.) is great. I think their real problem is to be dogmatic or arrogant, which is ironic.
Damn I got called out
Is this a picture of Aunty Donna?
Haven’t you done well?
Can’t be, it doesn’t have Adrian in it
Incredibly accurate. It’s nuts how they all could be one person.
Sounds like OP lost an argument and is throwing a clever meme-tantrum.
Report for: i am in the picture and i dont like it
Matrix (1999) was way ahead of you. Other works of fiction as well.
I guess I missed people rambling on about HYDRAULIC GIRLDICK
Did they just like, throw a bunch of random philosophy bullshit onto a meme? Feels like this was generated by an AI or something lol.
It’s like the normie maths meme where soyjak enjoys the monty hall problem and the infinite room hotel but hasn’t heard of the boring old theorems people learn in college
Like the meme says: thats what an AI would say. Lol
Thank god I has this phase at 16.
Thank someone you had the phase at all.
I am 17 and that’s me and it doesn’t seem to be going away any time soon.
The trick is to read even more philosophy and become even more insufferable.
I will