I honestly don’t really get why people use Lemmy. Kbin has a much better interface and is way less buggy. The PWA acts as a great app so I’m really kind of flummoxed. Also the users are cooler.
I mean that’s the first time that has happened to me and I’m fairly sure that one was actually on me swiping back.
Like Lemmy’s bugs have been pretty freaking serious. Biggest kbin one since I’ve gotten here was it logged you out too soon, and that wasn’t even a bug someone had just pushed a feature that got rolled back.
I have enough issues with being a chronic tab hoarder without having another website that will inevitably be open on multiple tabs over time. Is this a me problem? Probably 😁
Also for websites you use a lot, it’s nice to have a dedicated app for it. I don’t want an app for ever single website but a well built app tailored to work on the system in a seamless native way is fantastic.
It’s a you problem, but not really a unique one. I scroll through Lenny on desktop, open everything that seems interesting in a background tab and half the time I never even switch to them.
With Memmy, I either look into a post right away or keep scrolling.
I’ve just gotten used to that way of browsing because most sites don’t take you back to where you were before but generate new random content. Reddit is especially bad at this.
Apps do a pretty good job at going back to exactly where you were before without reloading the site.
There are plenty of rough edges that apps are able to buff out that a browser cannot.
I use plenty of things in a browser, but if I’m gonna scroll something daily… I want that image viewer with tap slide zoom. I want that specific folder that the app saves shit to instead of just “downloads”. etc. etc.
Having a dedicated app is just more convenient in most cases. And apps generally offer more features and QoL improvements compared to a site. After using memmy for about a month I can’t use the official site, especially on mobile.
Yeah, I have a kbin account as well, but I prefer Lemmy so far, since it actually has a data API and I prefer the web interface over that of kbin (and now we have old.lemmy.world!)
I am test driving Artemis for kbin, but Hariette and her team have an uphill battle until kbin comes up with an API, so development has been slow. Not their fault, of course.
The ace in the hole that Lemmy and kbin have is that it doesn’t matter which one you prefer because they can talk to each other. Can’t say the same about Squabbles.
I just don’t care for kbin’s interface. It definitely seems to be a love it or hate it type of thing. I like that Lemmy is trying to be more of a Reddit replacement, while kbin fans seem to like that it doesn’t feel like one.
BeeHaw gives me a toxic positivity vibe, so losing them from lemmy.world isn’t a big deal. I’d argue that they should not federate with anyone, but I can’t tell them what to do.
I honestly don’t really get why people use Lemmy. Kbin has a much better interface and is way less buggy. The PWA acts as a great app so I’m really kind of flummoxed. Also the users are cooler.
The clunky interface, the relative differences from reddit, the confusing organization, the less than ideal splitting between blog/thread/magazine that makes navigating it have an extra learning curve, the lack of any apps that aren’t just a pwa that has the same flaws as the site, the fact that there’s really only one server for kbin that’s used, the list goes on.
And I like kbin, I hope it thrives and becomes popular enough that nobody ever has to consider a corporate run site again because there’s multiple federated options.
But, just being real, lemmy is simpler and easier to use, and it’s closer to the way reddit worked. Kbin is trying to be more than a link aggregator and forum. That’s great! If that’s what you’re looking for, it’s even better. But most of the r/efugees were and are looking for something familiar and comfortable. With kbin not having an API, app developers weren’t jumping into it (other than hariette, and she’s kick ass) so the r/efugees that were at least partially leaving reddit because of the attack on apps had no devs busting their ass to get out good ones.
There’s no apps for kbin that are open use. PWAs are meh to begin with, but at least the lemmy UI via PWA matches reddit close enough that the learning curve is trivial. The kbin ui has to be navigated with the split functions in mind, and that’s not fun when what you’re really wanting is to keep doing what you were doing before spez fucked things up.
And that’s what it comes down to. The surge of new users to the fediverse aren’t here because of the virtues of the services. They’re/we’re here because reddit isn’t acceptable now. Lemmy is just closer to what we had
Can’t really make apps for a site that doesn’t have an API. They did announce recently that Kbin’s API is nearly done, so soon there’ll be a flood of Kbin apps as well, and support for Kbin in all of the Lemmy apps too
It would be great if someone created a fediverse browser native app. Log into all the platforms and add a translation layer to create a truly unique experience.
Maybe it would only make sense if you could authenticate one account on all the activitypub platforms?
I understand the amount of technical hurdles and maintenance to do so. I suppose I find the thought of experiencing them combined intriguing. If someone created A single app experience, in a intuitive way, I’d definitely give it a try.
I can see lemmy posts on mastidon. Would be kind of cool if it could handle that and display those posts using a lemmy ui. But making it seamless.
Yeah I suppose not all of them will want to commit to supporting Kbin, but some definitely will. Honestly though, so long as it’s possible to search for and subscribe to Kbin magazines from Lemmy, that’s all I really care about.
You can install the kbin interface as a PWA on mobile, and it works pretty well. There are some kinks for sure, but it’s 100% usable and better than lemmy.
Whoever ends up doing so should set up the interface so that Lemmy posts are blue and kbin posts green, that way Lemmy users can downvote us and call us poor.
personally it is kinda superior to Jerboa, since it has a feature that is my favourite: keyword filter, but also i can browse instances that can be defederated from each other, all the fediverse in one app: could even browse hexbear.net (which is not federated with anyone yet), kbin.social, …all on the app (and can browse instances as a guest without an account, which makes things way eaiser. unlimited block list. no bugs. it was suggested to me and i keep suggesting it for others since i didnt regret using it.
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I honestly don’t really get why people use Lemmy. Kbin has a much better interface and is way less buggy. The PWA acts as a great app so I’m really kind of flummoxed. Also the users are cooler.
I mean that’s the first time that has happened to me and I’m fairly sure that one was actually on me swiping back.
Like Lemmy’s bugs have been pretty freaking serious. Biggest kbin one since I’ve gotten here was it logged you out too soon, and that wasn’t even a bug someone had just pushed a feature that got rolled back.
Did they delete the other comment or is the bug not on their end? Cause I only see one currently.
Lemmy -> Kbin federation wasn’t (isn’t?) working that great, and considering 90% of content on KBin’s front page is lemmy content anyway…
Also there’s like two dozen apps for Lemmy now including several in the app stores
Plus stuff like https://old.thelemmy.club
I have been logging into kbin every day for a month trying to delete my account, but to this day, I can still log in…
Personally can’t wait for Artemis to come out by the description it sounds very much like an 3rd Party App that I would love to death
Yes, Artemis by @hariette is looking good.
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I don’t understand the people who want apps.
I’m not looking for an argument - you do you. But I don’t understand your desire to install things.
I have enough issues with being a chronic tab hoarder without having another website that will inevitably be open on multiple tabs over time. Is this a me problem? Probably 😁
Also for websites you use a lot, it’s nice to have a dedicated app for it. I don’t want an app for ever single website but a well built app tailored to work on the system in a seamless native way is fantastic.
It’s a you problem, but not really a unique one. I scroll through Lenny on desktop, open everything that seems interesting in a background tab and half the time I never even switch to them. With Memmy, I either look into a post right away or keep scrolling. I’ve just gotten used to that way of browsing because most sites don’t take you back to where you were before but generate new random content. Reddit is especially bad at this. Apps do a pretty good job at going back to exactly where you were before without reloading the site.
kbin user cope
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There are plenty of rough edges that apps are able to buff out that a browser cannot.
I use plenty of things in a browser, but if I’m gonna scroll something daily… I want that image viewer with tap slide zoom. I want that specific folder that the app saves shit to instead of just “downloads”. etc. etc.
Having a dedicated app is just more convenient in most cases. And apps generally offer more features and QoL improvements compared to a site. After using memmy for about a month I can’t use the official site, especially on mobile.
I heard Tildes discourages app development because they think apps go against the purpose of the site.
Isn’t that what the RIF dev is making?
Yes! He linked to the post over on tildes prior to shutting down RIF.
What even is the difference? The only thing I saw different was the UI compared to most Lemmy instances viewed through a browser.
Lenny’s API is really approachable and Kbins is still WIP
before the whole reddit clusterfuck and blackout started I created both kbin and lemmy accounts. One of those is just gathering dust
Yeah, I have a kbin account as well, but I prefer Lemmy so far, since it actually has a data API and I prefer the web interface over that of kbin (and now we have old.lemmy.world!)
I am test driving Artemis for kbin, but Hariette and her team have an uphill battle until kbin comes up with an API, so development has been slow. Not their fault, of course.
TIL about old.lemmy.world, cool!
There’s also m.lemmy.world running Voyager (formerly wefwef).
The more options the better. For now Lemmy is good and the apps are progressing at an awesome pace, honestly didn’t expect that.
The ace in the hole that Lemmy and kbin have is that it doesn’t matter which one you prefer because they can talk to each other. Can’t say the same about Squabbles.
Oh yeah, until someone decides to pull a beehaw and defederate, that’s why I have a kbin account too, but haven’t had the need to use it that much.
I just don’t care for kbin’s interface. It definitely seems to be a love it or hate it type of thing. I like that Lemmy is trying to be more of a Reddit replacement, while kbin fans seem to like that it doesn’t feel like one.
BeeHaw gives me a toxic positivity vibe, so losing them from lemmy.world isn’t a big deal. I’d argue that they should not federate with anyone, but I can’t tell them what to do.
Why you letting your lemmy account gather dust?
Same. I just don’t have a reason to use kbin. The interface is not my cup of tea and I don’t like the way they’ve handled communities or ‘mAgAzInEs’.
I can’t wait to be unhinged on kbin as well <3 .
I honestly don’t really get why people use Lemmy. Kbin has a much better interface and is way less buggy. The PWA acts as a great app so I’m really kind of flummoxed. Also the users are cooler.
The clunky interface, the relative differences from reddit, the confusing organization, the less than ideal splitting between blog/thread/magazine that makes navigating it have an extra learning curve, the lack of any apps that aren’t just a pwa that has the same flaws as the site, the fact that there’s really only one server for kbin that’s used, the list goes on.
And I like kbin, I hope it thrives and becomes popular enough that nobody ever has to consider a corporate run site again because there’s multiple federated options.
But, just being real, lemmy is simpler and easier to use, and it’s closer to the way reddit worked. Kbin is trying to be more than a link aggregator and forum. That’s great! If that’s what you’re looking for, it’s even better. But most of the r/efugees were and are looking for something familiar and comfortable. With kbin not having an API, app developers weren’t jumping into it (other than hariette, and she’s kick ass) so the r/efugees that were at least partially leaving reddit because of the attack on apps had no devs busting their ass to get out good ones.
There’s no apps for kbin that are open use. PWAs are meh to begin with, but at least the lemmy UI via PWA matches reddit close enough that the learning curve is trivial. The kbin ui has to be navigated with the split functions in mind, and that’s not fun when what you’re really wanting is to keep doing what you were doing before spez fucked things up.
And that’s what it comes down to. The surge of new users to the fediverse aren’t here because of the virtues of the services. They’re/we’re here because reddit isn’t acceptable now. Lemmy is just closer to what we had
Can’t really make apps for a site that doesn’t have an API. They did announce recently that Kbin’s API is nearly done, so soon there’ll be a flood of Kbin apps as well, and support for Kbin in all of the Lemmy apps too
Very much doubt. I’m sure many will but not all. The API isn’t identical so they’d have to commit to maintaining both.
It would be great if someone created a fediverse browser native app. Log into all the platforms and add a translation layer to create a truly unique experience. Maybe it would only make sense if you could authenticate one account on all the activitypub platforms? I understand the amount of technical hurdles and maintenance to do so. I suppose I find the thought of experiencing them combined intriguing. If someone created A single app experience, in a intuitive way, I’d definitely give it a try. I can see lemmy posts on mastidon. Would be kind of cool if it could handle that and display those posts using a lemmy ui. But making it seamless.
Yeah I suppose not all of them will want to commit to supporting Kbin, but some definitely will. Honestly though, so long as it’s possible to search for and subscribe to Kbin magazines from Lemmy, that’s all I really care about.
If nothing else, the Sync developer said he’d do it.
Memmy dev said they plan to as well but “not within this year” if I recall correctly.
Came here to say that… Take your upvote, good sir…
nice, that’s the one I’ve been hoping for the most!
@Nitrate55 I can’t wait to be able to use Kbin on the go, I’m really gonna have nothing be done at that point
You can install the kbin interface as a PWA on mobile, and it works pretty well. There are some kinks for sure, but it’s 100% usable and better than lemmy.
Firefox and toggle to desktop site works well for me.
Kbinites unite!!
If the API gets released, I might look into developing a desktop/mobile app. All relatively low-level, no electron app bullshit
I don’t think I’d bother with a kbin app anyway - I’m fine with the way it is already.
Whoever ends up doing so should set up the interface so that Lemmy posts are blue and kbin posts green, that way Lemmy users can downvote us and call us poor.
Connect for Lemmy, connects them all
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kuroneko.lemmy_connect
How do you like connect? I’ve been using Jerboa but wouldn’t mind checking some others apps out
personally it is kinda superior to Jerboa, since it has a feature that is my favourite: keyword filter, but also i can browse instances that can be defederated from each other, all the fediverse in one app: could even browse hexbear.net (which is not federated with anyone yet), kbin.social, …all on the app (and can browse instances as a guest without an account, which makes things way eaiser. unlimited block list. no bugs. it was suggested to me and i keep suggesting it for others since i didnt regret using it.
I’ve tried a bunch, including Jerboa and Connect. Thunder is by far my favourite
maybe make a pros and cons chart and post it
yea each person has some certain favourite features that aren’t common on all apps.
I went from Jerboa, then Connect for a while, then Liftoff, and now I sometimes use Thunder.
Liftoff is currently my most used app though.