I watch a fair amount of series, but I’m not a data hoarder. I see the value in 2GB episodes, but I watch most series on my laptop, my simple 1920x1080 tv or even my phone where that value doesn’t make a difference.
If I want to have a theater experience, I’ll go to the theater.
Most of the times I just want to enjoy a good story and relax before I go to bed.
I don’t have infinite storage and I hate when I want to download something new, but Im out of storage, so I have to delete stuff first.
Your best bet would be to use handbrake and transcode them down yourself. I have a relatively. I’ve setup for my living room and thus want to get the best quality I can. Exact opposite reasons to you but, It’s easy to downgrade, basically impossible to upgrade.
But that’s my two cents. Ideally, every file is uploaded with both of us in mind.
Good enough for who? You? Sure. But not everyone watches on a small screen. Some people might actually care about the quality too. Some of us can’t goto the theatre.
2GB isn’t large by any stretch. There are 720p versions of pretty much everything (at least that’s what I see on most Usenet Indexers). You could easily get a multiple terabyte external drive if your internal storage is full.
I’d even say that going to the theater sucks balls. The picture and sound quality usually sucks compared to a high quality download on a 75" 4k TV. Even a high bit rate 1080p video looks better than the theater.
It costs ,e over $100 to take the family out for a movie. As someone on disability right now that $100 is better spent on other things (Like a years worth of Usenet service ;) )
Yeah complaining about storage space in 2023 is a bit silly. You can go on eBay right now and get a used 4TB SATA drive for $25. Even cheaper if you get SAS drives, you just need a SAS expansion card which is also around $20 or so. 6TB SAS drives are going for $30.
ISP data caps are a bigger enemy than raw storage capacity these days. It costs me $50/mo to remove my 1TB cap. Which means it is more expensive to download 6TB than it is to buy 6TB of physical storage. And even SSDs are dirt cheap now. Storage has never been cheaper.
I am using unRAID so if one dies I can just replace it. About 4 years ago I bought a lot of fifteen 3TB SAS drives and I have had them running 24/7 since then. Funny enough not a single one has died. They all had around 5 years of power-on hours and now they are up to 9 and still going strong. Honestly I expected to lose at least one per year but they are surprisingly resilient.
The good ol’ United States. Most of the major ISPs have caps here and you do not really have multiple choices because they basically have monopolies in their respective areas.
I did not know that! I remember data caps being a thing here in the middle of Europe in the early 2000s.
There haven’t been data caps for home internet connections for a long time.
Dude, you should see what a nice 2 gig episode of anythng looks like on a 70 inch dolby vision TV. It’s worth the extra space. I download 40 gig movies if they are DV.
I sort by size, then seeders. I didn’t buy all my hifi tv and surround sound to watch compression in action. I couldn’t imagine those 200 to 300 mb episodes, but to each their own. i usually pull the 3 gb to 4 gb episodes.
A 12tb WD hard drive is like 200$ when they go on sale. That equates to about 0.015$/gb. So that 3 gb show costs all of a nickel to store.
Bearing in mind the community you’re posting in I wouldn’t think they were suggesting the big streaming companies.
Kodi + (insertname)debrid or stremio+ (insertname)debrid … either will let you stream torrents in much better quality than the streaming sites and no need to horde.
Also, i’m fairly sure there’s some torrent clients that allow streaming of the torrent file, I’m not sure if they’re still around but I think Vuze was one, I don’t used desktops any more just mobile/tablet so my knowledge might now be out of date.
Agreed, since I mostly watch stuff on my not-4K laptop or my not-4K phone.
For people who like to watch stuff on huge 4K screens and stuff, they’ll require higher quality videos, but as long as everyone has their needs meet I’m more than fine.
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I usually aim for 1080p top, since all my screens resultion don’t go above that.
Sometime even 720p, depends on how many seeders.
absolutely agree. for most shows, I don’t particularly care what I download, but for specific shows like GoT, I’ll go for the high quality x264 copy
x264… disgusting
some of the best releases are still in x264. can’t wait for av1 to be more mainstream, though.
I forgot about GOT! Yes, I got larger files for GOT as well.
Your best bet would be to use handbrake and transcode them down yourself. I have a relatively. I’ve setup for my living room and thus want to get the best quality I can. Exact opposite reasons to you but, It’s easy to downgrade, basically impossible to upgrade.
But that’s my two cents. Ideally, every file is uploaded with both of us in mind.
I was just going to say, handbrake is a good way to cut back a bit on file size if you get the settings right. It is very taxing on hardware tho.
1337x has tons of episodes that are that size. It seems to either be ~200mb or 2gb+ though. It would be cool if there were a nice middle ground.
Get better sources then
Well that is a super helpful comment. 🙄
Good enough for who? You? Sure. But not everyone watches on a small screen. Some people might actually care about the quality too. Some of us can’t goto the theatre.
2GB isn’t large by any stretch. There are 720p versions of pretty much everything (at least that’s what I see on most Usenet Indexers). You could easily get a multiple terabyte external drive if your internal storage is full.
A family of 4 going to the theater is about 1TB of external SSD. Nowadays they are smaller than your regular phone.
I spent about $80 for 4 people to see Oppenheimer coming up. I’ve also been seeing deals of 2tb m.2 drives for less than 100
Jesus, those really are cheap nowadays aren’t they
This is going to be my new way of measuring “worth” how many TBs of SSD storage does thing X equate to lol.
The Chev principle
I’d even say that going to the theater sucks balls. The picture and sound quality usually sucks compared to a high quality download on a 75" 4k TV. Even a high bit rate 1080p video looks better than the theater.
It costs ,e over $100 to take the family out for a movie. As someone on disability right now that $100 is better spent on other things (Like a years worth of Usenet service ;) )
I see usenet, I upvote. Not on Reddit anymore but still a simple man.
People talking or looking at their phone. I hate going to the theater.
Yeah complaining about storage space in 2023 is a bit silly. You can go on eBay right now and get a used 4TB SATA drive for $25. Even cheaper if you get SAS drives, you just need a SAS expansion card which is also around $20 or so. 6TB SAS drives are going for $30.
ISP data caps are a bigger enemy than raw storage capacity these days. It costs me $50/mo to remove my 1TB cap. Which means it is more expensive to download 6TB than it is to buy 6TB of physical storage. And even SSDs are dirt cheap now. Storage has never been cheaper.
Am I the only one that doesn’t like the idea of used hard drives?
You are not. I wouldn’t trust a used hard drive in any way.
Not even in a zfs raidz2 of just 5 drives?
I am using unRAID so if one dies I can just replace it. About 4 years ago I bought a lot of fifteen 3TB SAS drives and I have had them running 24/7 since then. Funny enough not a single one has died. They all had around 5 years of power-on hours and now they are up to 9 and still going strong. Honestly I expected to lose at least one per year but they are surprisingly resilient.
Fair enough. Also using Unraid so I guess overall it’s not a bad idea. I just need to actually get the damn things.
I didn’t know data caps are still a thing. Where is this?
The good ol’ United States. Most of the major ISPs have caps here and you do not really have multiple choices because they basically have monopolies in their respective areas.
I did not know that! I remember data caps being a thing here in the middle of Europe in the early 2000s. There haven’t been data caps for home internet connections for a long time.
Maybe try watching a 1080p HEVC or AV1 episode, 200MB for half an hour or 400MB for an hour and it looks amazing
HEVC is a great codec. Not everyone is encoding with it yet. Couple that with “fun” scene rules and we get what we get. 😅
The amount of old content still on ancient codecs is disgusting
As long as you are happy with that, all good. Fuck the people that sets a standard for you.
For any and all talk shows, there should be a sub-720p option. Don’t really need the video feed at all for most of an episode.
Streaming is always an option. You don’t need to download every video you want to watch.
Always? Sometimes not
True, but impractical with an unstable internet connection. Maybe i’ll look into it if I ever fix my wifi
Dude, you should see what a nice 2 gig episode of anythng looks like on a 70 inch dolby vision TV. It’s worth the extra space. I download 40 gig movies if they are DV.
DV remux hybrids are pretty damn cool
Even if you don’t have the extra space, just delete it after you’re done.
I sort by size, then seeders. I didn’t buy all my hifi tv and surround sound to watch compression in action. I couldn’t imagine those 200 to 300 mb episodes, but to each their own. i usually pull the 3 gb to 4 gb episodes.
A 12tb WD hard drive is like 200$ when they go on sale. That equates to about 0.015$/gb. So that 3 gb show costs all of a nickel to store.
Some of my TV shows are 15gb per episode lol
Now that just sounds like poor compression on the video.
Could be, but they look amazing and I’ve got space for it
H.265 is my favourite codec on the citadel
Stranger things s4e9 4k web dl is 16gb. They are rare, you got a lot of them?
yeah well that’s cool but I like my media big and (when appropriate) loud, with as high a quality as I can get
Why not just use those streaming sites then? You don’t need to download anything
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, as they say
Most streaming sites are even worse quality.
Bearing in mind the community you’re posting in I wouldn’t think they were suggesting the big streaming companies.
Kodi + (insertname)debrid or stremio+ (insertname)debrid … either will let you stream torrents in much better quality than the streaming sites and no need to horde.
Also, i’m fairly sure there’s some torrent clients that allow streaming of the torrent file, I’m not sure if they’re still around but I think Vuze was one, I don’t used desktops any more just mobile/tablet so my knowledge might now be out of date.
I actually prefer the Jellyfin interface even when I have access to content through another service.
Was about to say the same. I mean to each his own, but I can hardly justify a release that has worse quality than online streaming
I download the biggest files i can get. Im going to delete it when I’m done with it anyways, who cares about the space.
Blasphemy! Don’t you care about your share ratio?
I primarily use Usenet, so no seeding.
Also i should mention that I do torrent occasionaly and I leave it seeding for ages. So my torrent ratios are very healthy.
Agreed, since I mostly watch stuff on my not-4K laptop or my not-4K phone.
For people who like to watch stuff on huge 4K screens and stuff, they’ll require higher quality videos, but as long as everyone has their needs meet I’m more than fine.
720p for most tv shows is fine for me. 1080p for films.