Hexbear has taglines that contain some of the funniest things said about Hexbear, or just funny in general. This is standard for Hexbear, if you refresh the page the taglines change.
This almost certainly won’t kill the Hexbear community, and frankly I don’t think there’s any way they will choose to pony up the auction money. This community has moved from reddit to discord to the fediverse and they’ll probably just be on their backup/original domain chapo.chat for a month or two before switching over to whatever the admins decide to switch to, and then it will be business as usual under a new name.
Still there’s a lesson here about setting up a durable online community - don’t let someone control the domain registration with their personal account, you’re just asking for something like this to happen. If they don’t have one already the admins should set up some kind of organization that can “own” the new domain, donations, etc so that this can’t happen again.
I just don’t get how you could keep trusting the people that run the instance after this. Its like the whole manjaro thing I could never use it because I do not trust the people in charge because they won’t stop fucking up.
The domain name isn’t worth anything, they’ve changed domain names before, they’ll do it again.
It will be funny that someone paid 500 dollars to make a communist domain redirect to /r/neoliberal or the wikipedia article on economics or the Black Book of Communism or something. Maybe declare Juan Guaidó the interim president of hexbear and redirect to his twitter.
If you go to their megathread on the topic you’ll see that not only are they not bidding, they’re telling people not to bid on their behalf and go to their https://chapo.chat/c/mutual_aid comm and give the money to someone who needs it. So if you have 300+ bucks to set on fire please consider helping someone with their rent or groceries. Or on the kid from Gaza trying to raise money for a prosthetic leg. You’ll feel better than spending it on spite.
Thanks! Unlike a lot of Lemmy users, I have a soft spot for hexbears. I think they had a genuinely traumatic experience when they federated and their very personal instance was inundated with people who didn’t think and talk as they did. I’m glad they’re ok.
Jesus Christ, this is so ridiculous. They federated on their own accord, and from what I’ve seen very little non-hexbear users ever came to post on hexbear communitites. Seeing some new users in your online community who disagree with you isn’t fucking traumatic, in fact these people adore arguing and “dunking” on “libs”.
Their users wanted to defederate right away when they saw the rest of Lemmy. The people in charge (able to pull the switch) kept telling them to hold on and it’d get better. A small number of people made the decision for all of them. It’s all the rest for whom I genuinely feel bad. Their community was highjacked and, I think to them, attacked. I can have empathy for the average users.
Having seen how Hexbear interacted with other instances, I have zero empathy for them. They were an incredibly nasty group of people towards anyone who thought differently to them.
How about instead of puffing your chest out like an online incel douchebag asking me to cross a brand new line in the sand, you respond to what was already pointed out.
i.e. you being an incel nazi cosplayer and pulling the ‘just simply for disagreeing and nothing else’ bullshit you and every other incel nazi uses every time your behavior is called out
Almost nothing has been pointed out. You said my comment resembles those of “incel nazis”. No actual explanation or concrete criticism, just aggressive vocabulary and vague accusations. Of course, you can’t provide anything more than that - had i actually given even a hint of support for nazi ideology, you’d easily point it out, rather than just calling out… my wording?
bullshit you and every other incel nazi uses every time your behavior is called out
What is this “my/our behaviour” that you’re talking about exactly?
I didn’t explicitly give verbal support to specific nazi parties (motte) I just said these snowflakes go running whenever some vague and nonspecific disagreement happens! (bailey)
You can’t criticize me for using the exact same rhetorical tools literal nazis use and in the exact same context! It’s just a coincidence! You have to follow my rules and satisfy my framing!
Dunking on other instances was literally the entire reason they federated in the first place. Their users were salivating at what they would do to lemmy.ca before we defed’d.
Hexbear is the only place online I’ve found that I feel most comfortable speaking my mind as a neurodivergent queer communist. People act like hexbear is some harsh authoritarian zone, it just simply doesn’t condone chauvinism, transphobia, or let people post western propaganda without it being questioned. Some people react poorly to the way they are responded to on hexbear when they post some bullshit that we’ve heard and debunked 1000 times already.
They also made a habit of “raiding” other instances, and outright flooding any conversation they didn’t agree with with the most vile takes they could come up with, or, failing that, the pig shit Gif.
They also made a habit of “raiding” other instances,
Lol, I love seeing the mythology of hexbear evolve in real time. I particularly like how you put “raiding” in inverted commas to make it seem like you’re quoting something, rather than just making it up whole cloth.
Beanis is an in-joke on Hexbear, Hexbear is very vegan and a lotta people love beans. The pursuit of more beanis is a part of that joke, so if bean.is wasn’t expensive it probably would have won.
The tankies are out in full force on this thread and downvoting everyone the instant they comment, so it’s not as controversial as it looks. Just a handful of butthurt authoritarians.
I’ve had that happen to some URLs I own before. Basically, they forgot to renew. Normally you get a grace period but some sketchy domain admins take the lapse as an opportunity to auction off what was originally a worthless address now that it has value.
What’s up with j_s_0e6b87? (Let’s call them JS). If they really want the address that’s the wrong way to go - bidding too high, too early, too often, and in a bidding war against everyone else. A better approach is to wait until the last hours and then try to snip it.
Unless their goal is to raise the prices this way?
EDIT: currently $676. JS is in a bid war with TB (t_b_2a08d7), a newcomer. 🍿
I speak for all of hexbear when I say the domain isn’t worth that much, and losing it to capitalism is a funny bit, redirect it to /r/neoliberal or the wikipedia article on economics or the Black Book of Communism or something. Maybe declare Juan Guaidó the interim president of hexbear and redirect to his twitter.
Losing it to some anticommunist “left” weirdo to flex how much money they are willing to waste on an internet grudge instead of helping literally anyone is less funny.
It’s only a problem if you don’t like having chauvinism and western state propaganda brainworms questioned. As a ND queer communist I have never felt more comfortable and welcome posting than on hexbear. Their mutual aid comm is highly active and an immensely helpful place for many people. It’s an adorable community, they get a bad rap by people that come in arguing in bad faith who then run away to shame the hateful ‘tankies’ on their main instance like this post here.
The idea is stupid, sure, but it’s not like it’s any more sexual harassment than posting pictures of a pig’s ass repeatedly. Hexbear users (many of whom I quite like) should be used to it.
Yeah harassing homeless people asking for 20 bucks so they can avoid their next hypoglycemic seizure with mid 2000’s edgy shock porn explicitly for the purpose of being cruel to them IS EXACTLY THE SAME as harassing deliberate trolls acting in bad faith with a picture of an animal’s butt so they go away.
You’re a perfectly well adjusted person who I totally wouldn’t believe hurts small animals for fun.
Swear to god Hexbear is the best thing that’s ever happened to the internet if only because we get to see a lot of people’s real faces when they react to it.
Wow a single community dedicated to giving any schmuck with a sob story some pocket change. So the whole instance must be the salt of the earth which can do no wrong and have no bad takes. Gee its almost like c/mutual_aid is a defensive shield that you think protects from legitimate criticism of the rest of hexbears extremist nonesense shitposting.
How noble, im truly moved. No, actually im not. Charity for the sake of arguing moral superiority and trying to prove a theoretical socialist system of willful wealth redistribution yet pretending its just out of goodness of hexbear users hearts is false virtue pandering.
I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. All I see is you trying to justify using your excess of money to deliberately hurt people because you’re upset over some words said to you.
And all I see is someone who cant formulate a coherent argument. I legitimately have no idea what you’re trying to say or imply about me, do you even know your replying to a different person than the guy above?
Also oof bad guess, Im currently broke as shit and live offgrid in a tent. Care to take another crack at assuming anything about my life or overall character? Speaking of doing good for those in need and my intentions, last season I volunteered at a local medical rehab helping get homeless clean off life threatening drugs and improving their quality of life by making sure they had clean rooms and basic amenities. It might not be sending 20$ anonymously to fuel a homeless persons narcotic or opioid addiction so they don’t have to get medical assistance to deal with withdraw shock or overdosing like the most caring and thoughtful hexbear donators but hey its something I guess.
what cowbee said, and you dorks trying to get the domain to redirect hexbear to sexually explicit or otherwise useless shit are just making it that much harder for the numerous palestinians, trans people, unhoused people, etc. who have come to rely on c/mutual_aid.
good to know that owning the “tankies” is more important to you dweebs than letting us continue to help them. i really hope you’re proud of yourselves.
I think anyone trying to buy the domain and redirect it as some kind of joke is dumb and I don’t support that.
But I’m curious how the vetting process works for c/mutual aid. How can you be sure that the money is going to people who actually need it, as opposed to people who are playing a part to garner your sympathy?
I’ve poked around hexbear from time to time and I remember a certain Palestinian family that was receiving fairly substantial aid. That appeared fairly legit to me, although it’s still extremely difficult to be sure.
But the people who need help with rent, or help paying their phone bill, or whatever random sob story they might come up with, I view with inherent suspicion.
Have you ever considered that it might be a much more efficient use of your resources to actually walk around wherever you live and give food and blankets directly to the unhoused? To volunteer at a local soup kitchen or homeless shelter?
Sending anonymous strangers money over the internet has a very large chance of going to the wrong people who are adept at manipulating others but not actually in the most need. It has a very large chance of funding self destructive behaviors of mentally ill people that ultimately drive the individual further into poverty and misery. Just something to think about.
For your point on trust, hexbear users mostly just have to trust that the user is acting in good faith as there isn’t really any way to properly verify if the person is telling the truth without forcing them to reveal personal, and potentially identifiable, information.
And for your point on funding destructive behaviours, if we assume that this individual is telling the truth about their situation, then you aren’t funding their drug addiction by helping them pay rent or buy food.
That’s fair and I respect it, we need to have the courage to trust other people and I’m sure people have received much needed aid from that community.
But at the same time we have to recognize when a system is vulnerable to abuse, and consider ways to prevent that abuse from happening, or at least limit it. Sometimes, people aren’t going to tell the truth, and sometimes they may not know how to help themselves. It’s very hard to recognize those scenarios when your only context is an anonymous username on an internet forum.
The mutual_aid comm literally saved me from being homeless and losing my pet cats that I’ve had for 10 years.
It has a very large chance of funding self destructive behaviors of mentally ill people that ultimately drive the individual further into poverty and misery.
Fuck you Nancy Grace. “Don’t give that homeless man money! He’ll use it on drugs”
What’s the worse problem? Someone getting something ‘they don’t deserve’ or someone not getting something they need to live?
I think drugs are great, but they can be very harmful for people who are already mentally unstable. I deal with homeless people frequently, and in many cases, abusing drugs is a major problem for them and giving them money just perpetuates a self destructive cycle that eventually ends with them dying before their time.
Someone not getting something they need to live is the worse problem, which is why sending your charity off into the interwebs with hopes and prayers that it has a positive impact is a very naive and lazy way of doing things. You should be making sure that it helps those who are most desperate, and the only way to ensure that is to do your giving IRL.
If “verbal diarrhea” is so commonplace on reddit, then it wouldn’t be necessary for people to leave Reddit in order to spread it, hmm?
Obviously your entire premise is sheer stupidity regardless, but I just want point out that even according to your own internal logic, it still doesn’t make any sense.
Hating on a major branch of leftist thought isn’t technically anti-all left, but it’s still left punching. Trying to say Marxism-Leninism isn’t left is just purity testing nonsense.
I dunno, if you consider yourself a leftist I think you’d be doing a much better service attacking right-wingers, especially now that there’s a huge rise of literal Nazis in Western countries, than attacking branches of leftism you personally disagree with. It’s entirely understandable why people would question your motives if you decide to dedicate a good portion of your personal time to anti-communism.
Politics doesn’t exist on a one-dimensional scale you know. These extremely authoritarian branches of leftism are to me just as detestable as right-wing authoritarianists (though clearly one is more of a present threat). But I dislike being associated with those people because they believe they somehow must be similar in ideology to me.
Totally going to defeat that 400 year dictatorship of capital which has only previously made concessions to workers when there was a tangible alternative system presenting some threat to theirs with an election. Keep it up. Believe in you. <3
The rest of the Fediverse should put together a GoFundMe to buy the domain, and stick up a page with links to donate drones to Ukrainian soldiers, and care packages to families of Uyghur muslims detained in concentration camps in China.
They went through ban wave after ban wave and even their own internal dev team got burned out on the drama. I can’t say I’m surprised by this, but its the inevitable attrition that happens when you eat your own tail for years on end.
See this is what I mean. Constantly talking shit about liberals. You know who else does that? Fascists. You people don’t even try to hide it. I don’t even know why you pretend to be Communists. Nobody is falling for it. You’re embarrassing yourself. Grow up already
Uh… Buddy you got that backwards, fascists typically ally with liberals (see SPD in the rise of Nazism killing Rosa Luxembourg) or at least coexist peacefully with them until they turn around and take military control. But sure, the fascist instance is the one with a strong mutual aid community that managed to raise thousands of dollars for Palestinians, and whose around 50% of users are trans.
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Weird, www.hexbear.net redirects to chapo.chat while hexbear.net doesn’t.
For me, both redirect to chapo.
With different messages on top that aren’t friendly to hexbear.
WTF is going on here?
Hexbear has taglines that contain some of the funniest things said about Hexbear, or just funny in general. This is standard for Hexbear, if you refresh the page the taglines change.
This almost certainly won’t kill the Hexbear community, and frankly I don’t think there’s any way they will choose to pony up the auction money. This community has moved from reddit to discord to the fediverse and they’ll probably just be on their backup/original domain chapo.chat for a month or two before switching over to whatever the admins decide to switch to, and then it will be business as usual under a new name.
Still there’s a lesson here about setting up a durable online community - don’t let someone control the domain registration with their personal account, you’re just asking for something like this to happen. If they don’t have one already the admins should set up some kind of organization that can “own” the new domain, donations, etc so that this can’t happen again.
I just don’t get how you could keep trusting the people that run the instance after this. Its like the whole manjaro thing I could never use it because I do not trust the people in charge because they won’t stop fucking up.
You don’t really need to “trust” the admins if you think of your account like a throwaway.
The bid is at $505.00!
$1921 🤯 We need a Lemmy livestream for the countdown to it settling
That would’ve been some nice funding for the instances and fediverse developers.
Is Hexbear even worth that much?
Hexbear isn’t worth the dog shit I scraped off my shoe this morning.
The domain name isn’t worth anything, they’ve changed domain names before, they’ll do it again.
It will be funny that someone paid 500 dollars to make a communist domain redirect to /r/neoliberal or the wikipedia article on economics or the Black Book of Communism or something. Maybe declare Juan Guaidó the interim president of hexbear and redirect to his twitter.
I’m bidding. Fuck them.
spending hundreds of dollars on a domain to own the commies, that’s so epic chungus, take my updoot good sir
How’s your bid going? Top is $676 now. I wonder if it’ll go to ,$1000. I wonder how many of the bidders are from hexbear, trying to save it
Anyone who did that would be endlessly mocked for giving a thousand dollars to a domain registrar instead of literally anything else.
Rent free.
If you go to their megathread on the topic you’ll see that not only are they not bidding, they’re telling people not to bid on their behalf and go to their https://chapo.chat/c/mutual_aid comm and give the money to someone who needs it. So if you have 300+ bucks to set on fire please consider helping someone with their rent or groceries. Or on the kid from Gaza trying to raise money for a prosthetic leg. You’ll feel better than spending it on spite.
Please someone cover my monthly expenses (equal to the current bid) . As a
commietankie trans girl this would own me epicallyThey’ve moved to chapo.chat.
Here’s their statement.
Updated my blocklist, thank you
Thanks! Unlike a lot of Lemmy users, I have a soft spot for hexbears. I think they had a genuinely traumatic experience when they federated and their very personal instance was inundated with people who didn’t think and talk as they did. I’m glad they’re ok.
Homie, they inundated everywhere else with their bile, very few people actually came to their instance.
They were the traumatic experience.
Jesus Christ, this is so ridiculous. They federated on their own accord, and from what I’ve seen very little non-hexbear users ever came to post on hexbear communitites. Seeing some new users in your online community who disagree with you isn’t fucking traumatic, in fact these people adore arguing and “dunking” on “libs”.
Their users wanted to defederate right away when they saw the rest of Lemmy. The people in charge (able to pull the switch) kept telling them to hold on and it’d get better. A small number of people made the decision for all of them. It’s all the rest for whom I genuinely feel bad. Their community was highjacked and, I think to them, attacked. I can have empathy for the average users.
Having seen how Hexbear interacted with other instances, I have zero empathy for them. They were an incredibly nasty group of people towards anyone who thought differently to them.
It takes so very little for liberals to take their masks off and start talking word-for-word exactly the same as incel nazis.
If you see anything that’s factually incorrect in my comment, please go ahead and point it out.
How about instead of puffing your chest out like an online incel douchebag asking me to cross a brand new line in the sand, you respond to what was already pointed out.
i.e. you being an incel nazi cosplayer and pulling the ‘just simply for disagreeing and nothing else’ bullshit you and every other incel nazi uses every time your behavior is called out
Almost nothing has been pointed out. You said my comment resembles those of “incel nazis”. No actual explanation or concrete criticism, just aggressive vocabulary and vague accusations. Of course, you can’t provide anything more than that - had i actually given even a hint of support for nazi ideology, you’d easily point it out, rather than just calling out… my wording?
What is this “my/our behaviour” that you’re talking about exactly?
I didn’t explicitly give verbal support to specific nazi parties (motte) I just said these snowflakes go running whenever some vague and nonspecific disagreement happens! (bailey)
You can’t criticize me for using the exact same rhetorical tools literal nazis use and in the exact same context! It’s just a coincidence! You have to follow my rules and satisfy my framing!
Dunking on other instances was literally the entire reason they federated in the first place. Their users were salivating at what they would do to lemmy.ca before we defed’d.
They love to paint themselves as victims.
Ah, I saw a lot of people traumatized by their posting, but it is the first time I hear about the opposite.
Hexbear is the only place online I’ve found that I feel most comfortable speaking my mind as a neurodivergent queer communist. People act like hexbear is some harsh authoritarian zone, it just simply doesn’t condone chauvinism, transphobia, or let people post western propaganda without it being questioned. Some people react poorly to the way they are responded to on hexbear when they post some bullshit that we’ve heard and debunked 1000 times already.
They also made a habit of “raiding” other instances, and outright flooding any conversation they didn’t agree with with the most vile takes they could come up with, or, failing that, the pig shit Gif.
But yeah, they’re secretly caring people, sure.
Lol, I love seeing the mythology of hexbear evolve in real time. I particularly like how you put “raiding” in inverted commas to make it seem like you’re quoting something, rather than just making it up whole cloth.
I mean, I saw it happen. You argue with one, and twenty others show up and just flood the thread.
But sure, keep lying to yourself about how your friends are secretly caring people or whatever.
Yes, that’s how federation works lol.
Their community reminds me of that one Something Awful subforum with the same style. I guess hexbear is just a younger demographic
Their instance seems to be back up again. A sad day for us all.
Lol, you fucking baby
My 3 favorite proposed alternative urls are tank.ie hexbearmoretankie.net and infinity.ai
If bean.is wasn’t so expensive it would win, full shot.
What’s the relevancy of bean.is?
Beanis is an in-joke on Hexbear, Hexbear is very vegan and a lotta people love beans. The pursuit of more beanis is a part of that joke, so if bean.is wasn’t expensive it probably would have won.
We should buy it and turn it into a Lemmy instance that’s anti-authoritarian.
We should buy it and turnt into a Lemmy instance that’s only bears in hexagons.
Bears coding in hexadecimal.
Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works already exist tho
Edit: oh, you edited your comment to “anti-authoritarian” instead of “anti-tankie.” Neither Lemmy.world nor sh.itjust.works applies now.
Just make it non authoritarian and that will enrage them.
Yep, that was the gist of what I’m going for. Didn’t know that was so controversial.
I think too many people claim to be “anticommunist” when they really should say they are “full on fascist”.
The tankies are out in full force on this thread and downvoting everyone the instant they comment, so it’s not as controversial as it looks. Just a handful of butthurt authoritarians.
Put my bid in. Man, lots of people on Lemmy hate me already…just imagine when I own hexbear!!!
I don’t recognize your username. Why would anyone have an opinion on you?
I’ve had that happen to some URLs I own before. Basically, they forgot to renew. Normally you get a grace period but some sketchy domain admins take the lapse as an opportunity to auction off what was originally a worthless address now that it has value.
Looks like it expired last month so they had a 1 month grace period
I am willing to bet that the contact person is either gone or not checking email. It wouldn’t surprise me if they lost access to the portal.
Ironic that it’s capitalism that’s going to take down Hexbear.
Bidding ends in 9 days.
Edit: Current bid is up to
$305$505$676$710$1920$2345$2365As @[email protected] mentioned it’s now at $505.
What’s up with j_s_0e6b87? (Let’s call them JS). If they really want the address that’s the wrong way to go - bidding too high, too early, too often, and in a bidding war against everyone else. A better approach is to wait until the last hours and then try to snip it.
Unless their goal is to raise the prices this way?
EDIT: currently $676. JS is in a bid war with TB (t_b_2a08d7), a newcomer. 🍿
Wouldn’t it be better to agree whatever bit yall want to do with the domain name and spend the money on something more productive? Here’s a father trying to buy his kid a new leg after Israel blew it off.
I speak for all of hexbear when I say the domain isn’t worth that much, and losing it to capitalism is a funny bit, redirect it to /r/neoliberal or the wikipedia article on economics or the Black Book of Communism or something. Maybe declare Juan Guaidó the interim president of hexbear and redirect to his twitter.
Losing it to some anticommunist “left” weirdo to flex how much money they are willing to waste on an internet grudge instead of helping literally anyone is less funny.
What was the problem with Hexbear again?
It’s only a problem if you don’t like having chauvinism and western state propaganda brainworms questioned. As a ND queer communist I have never felt more comfortable and welcome posting than on hexbear. Their mutual aid comm is highly active and an immensely helpful place for many people. It’s an adorable community, they get a bad rap by people that come in arguing in bad faith who then run away to shame the hateful ‘tankies’ on their main instance like this post here.
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If I had the money I’d buy it and replace every post with goatse.
EDIT: wtf the insane asylum is loose. Halp
yes let’s sexually harass all those people depending on our mutual aid comm. you’re so righteous.
The idea is stupid, sure, but it’s not like it’s any more sexual harassment than posting pictures of a pig’s ass repeatedly. Hexbear users (many of whom I quite like) should be used to it.
Tankies run on hypocrisy.
Yeah harassing homeless people asking for 20 bucks so they can avoid their next hypoglycemic seizure with mid 2000’s edgy shock porn explicitly for the purpose of being cruel to them IS EXACTLY THE SAME as harassing deliberate trolls acting in bad faith with a picture of an animal’s butt so they go away.
You’re a perfectly well adjusted person who I totally wouldn’t believe hurts small animals for fun.
Swear to god Hexbear is the best thing that’s ever happened to the internet if only because we get to see a lot of people’s real faces when they react to it.
Wow a single community dedicated to giving any schmuck with a sob story some pocket change. So the whole instance must be the salt of the earth which can do no wrong and have no bad takes. Gee its almost like c/mutual_aid is a defensive shield that you think protects from legitimate criticism of the rest of hexbears extremist nonesense shitposting.
How noble, im truly moved. No, actually im not. Charity for the sake of arguing moral superiority and trying to prove a theoretical socialist system of willful wealth redistribution yet pretending its just out of goodness of hexbear users hearts is false virtue pandering.
I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. All I see is you trying to justify using your excess of money to deliberately hurt people because you’re upset over some words said to you.
And all I see is someone who cant formulate a coherent argument. I legitimately have no idea what you’re trying to say or imply about me, do you even know your replying to a different person than the guy above?
Also oof bad guess, Im currently broke as shit and live offgrid in a tent. Care to take another crack at assuming anything about my life or overall character? Speaking of doing good for those in need and my intentions, last season I volunteered at a local medical rehab helping get homeless clean off life threatening drugs and improving their quality of life by making sure they had clean rooms and basic amenities. It might not be sending 20$ anonymously to fuel a homeless persons narcotic or opioid addiction so they don’t have to get medical assistance to deal with withdraw shock or overdosing like the most caring and thoughtful hexbear donators but hey its something I guess.
Just social media posting your way to praxis? That’s a hell of a form of “mutual aid.”
what cowbee said, and you dorks trying to get the domain to redirect hexbear to sexually explicit or otherwise useless shit are just making it that much harder for the numerous palestinians, trans people, unhoused people, etc. who have come to rely on c/mutual_aid.
good to know that owning the “tankies” is more important to you dweebs than letting us continue to help them. i really hope you’re proud of yourselves.
I think anyone trying to buy the domain and redirect it as some kind of joke is dumb and I don’t support that.
But I’m curious how the vetting process works for c/mutual aid. How can you be sure that the money is going to people who actually need it, as opposed to people who are playing a part to garner your sympathy?
I’ve poked around hexbear from time to time and I remember a certain Palestinian family that was receiving fairly substantial aid. That appeared fairly legit to me, although it’s still extremely difficult to be sure.
But the people who need help with rent, or help paying their phone bill, or whatever random sob story they might come up with, I view with inherent suspicion.
Have you ever considered that it might be a much more efficient use of your resources to actually walk around wherever you live and give food and blankets directly to the unhoused? To volunteer at a local soup kitchen or homeless shelter?
Sending anonymous strangers money over the internet has a very large chance of going to the wrong people who are adept at manipulating others but not actually in the most need. It has a very large chance of funding self destructive behaviors of mentally ill people that ultimately drive the individual further into poverty and misery. Just something to think about.
For your point on trust, hexbear users mostly just have to trust that the user is acting in good faith as there isn’t really any way to properly verify if the person is telling the truth without forcing them to reveal personal, and potentially identifiable, information. And for your point on funding destructive behaviours, if we assume that this individual is telling the truth about their situation, then you aren’t funding their drug addiction by helping them pay rent or buy food.
That’s fair and I respect it, we need to have the courage to trust other people and I’m sure people have received much needed aid from that community.
But at the same time we have to recognize when a system is vulnerable to abuse, and consider ways to prevent that abuse from happening, or at least limit it. Sometimes, people aren’t going to tell the truth, and sometimes they may not know how to help themselves. It’s very hard to recognize those scenarios when your only context is an anonymous username on an internet forum.
It’s like giving money to the guy walking about the gas station with a story
You’ll see that same guy again and again, and he never seems to put any gasoline in his can
The mutual_aid comm literally saved me from being homeless and losing my pet cats that I’ve had for 10 years.
Fuck you Nancy Grace. “Don’t give that homeless man money! He’ll use it on drugs”
What’s the worse problem? Someone getting something ‘they don’t deserve’ or someone not getting something they need to live?
That’s great, good for you.
I think drugs are great, but they can be very harmful for people who are already mentally unstable. I deal with homeless people frequently, and in many cases, abusing drugs is a major problem for them and giving them money just perpetuates a self destructive cycle that eventually ends with them dying before their time.
Someone not getting something they need to live is the worse problem, which is why sending your charity off into the interwebs with hopes and prayers that it has a positive impact is a very naive and lazy way of doing things. You should be making sure that it helps those who are most desperate, and the only way to ensure that is to do your giving IRL.
There’s a Mutual Aid comm where people in need can make a request for money or other such necessity and others can fulfil them.
There are only two kinds of people on Lemmy.
People who left Reddit to escape the verbal diarrhea that overwhelmed the site.
People who left Reddit to spread that diarrhea.
sigh The @sh.itjust.works domain is full of the latter.
If “verbal diarrhea” is so commonplace on reddit, then it wouldn’t be necessary for people to leave Reddit in order to spread it, hmm?
Obviously your entire premise is sheer stupidity regardless, but I just want point out that even according to your own internal logic, it still doesn’t make any sense.
Fuck tha haters. You all do great work on the instance!
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Average Western “”““leftists””“”
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Hating on a major branch of leftist thought isn’t technically anti-all left, but it’s still left punching. Trying to say Marxism-Leninism isn’t left is just purity testing nonsense.
I dunno, if you consider yourself a leftist I think you’d be doing a much better service attacking right-wingers, especially now that there’s a huge rise of literal Nazis in Western countries, than attacking branches of leftism you personally disagree with. It’s entirely understandable why people would question your motives if you decide to dedicate a good portion of your personal time to anti-communism.
Politics doesn’t exist on a one-dimensional scale you know. These extremely authoritarian branches of leftism are to me just as detestable as right-wing authoritarianists (though clearly one is more of a present threat). But I dislike being associated with those people because they believe they somehow must be similar in ideology to me.
Totally going to defeat that 400 year dictatorship of capital which has only previously made concessions to workers when there was a tangible alternative system presenting some threat to theirs with an election. Keep it up. Believe in you. <3
The rest of the Fediverse should put together a GoFundMe to buy the domain, and stick up a page with links to donate drones to Ukrainian soldiers, and care packages to families of Uyghur muslims detained in concentration camps in China.
I’d rather people just fund their instances or the developers
Honestly I’d donate. Would love to see them seethe.
So right to the pockets of Adrian Zenz?
I enjoyed the community. Hope they find a new home.
They went through ban wave after ban wave and even their own internal dev team got burned out on the drama. I can’t say I’m surprised by this, but its the inevitable attrition that happens when you eat your own tail for years on end.
The purges were absolutely necessary for hexbear to provide a safe space for marginalized people.
I thought mandatory pronouns were dumb, but I was instantly proven wrong by the number of rabid transphobes who immediately identified themselves.
They’re a bunch of Fascists disguised as Communists. Don’t understand why anyone would enjoy spending time in that shithole.
Because it’s a breath of fresh air away from an internet filled with people like you
Maybe their username can give you an idea of why they enjoy the community more than western lib infested ones ;)
See this is what I mean. Constantly talking shit about liberals. You know who else does that? Fascists. You people don’t even try to hide it. I don’t even know why you pretend to be Communists. Nobody is falling for it. You’re embarrassing yourself. Grow up already
Uh… Buddy you got that backwards, fascists typically ally with liberals (see SPD in the rise of Nazism killing Rosa Luxembourg) or at least coexist peacefully with them until they turn around and take military control. But sure, the fascist instance is the one with a strong mutual aid community that managed to raise thousands of dollars for Palestinians, and whose around 50% of users are trans.