Playing music in public isn’t illegal, if you’re playing it for yourself. Playing music for the purpose of sharing it with other people would be though.
Think of it like a movie. You can watch a DVD at home no problem, but if you set up a cinema out in the park and open to the public, that would be copyright infringement. The intent is what makes the offense.
I could agree to this. YouTube definitely shouldn’t be doing their copyright bullshit for shit like this. Cop knows exactly what he’s doing. Prick.
On another note, you could probably use some audio software to remove the audio altogether, attempt to separate the music and the vocals from the cop and people talking. Remove the song, reapply the audio to the video and upload. I’ve done it before but the quality never came out as good in the end. Pain in the ass but there’s definitely ways around this.
Doesn’t this usually fall under the Fair Use policy? Like, how you are allowed to post copirighted content if you are using it as a joke or as a comentator and such?
Exactly my thinking, how can a shitty recording take someone not to buy/stream music. The filter should not take down recordings of recordings, in my opinion. Nobody loses any money with this.
The way YouTube moderates copyright is somewhat forced by outdated laws. Tom Scott made an excellent YouTube video or two about this topic which is definitely worth the watch.
copyright is hard because it has to go through bureaucracy. But one thing is the law itself and another is the process. If the process is slow is not the content of the law’s fault.
This is why YouTube created Content ID, to try to resolve these cases in a more agile way. They are too massive to make every case go through the whole legal expensive path.
the threshold for content to turn into public domain is too large. No idea how this relates to YouTube copyright issues though. Yeha, maybe the threshold is too large, but is that related to the complaints content creators have around Youtube’s Content ID? Nope. That’s just something he wanted to throw in there, which is just opinion.
Thinking about it… Maybe lowering the threshold could be a relief on the bureaucracy because there would be less open cases. Still, not sure if that would be enough. We’re uploading content exponentially, any justice system would collapse if experts had to check every single case.
This is a very hard problem to solve. With the HUGE incoming wave of AI generated content and the copyright issues surrounding AI, I’m expecting the shit to hit the fan spectacularly.
But the reason why YouTube overregulates is because of how massive their service is. They couldn’t pay lawyers to check every single video, and they can’t take risks of copyright infringement.
Do you have any proposed solution? It just seems like Youtube’s nature make this a very hard problem to solve, it’s not a copyright thing itself. I really can’t imagine a solution. Having someone check every claim would be insanely difficult. But removing copyright all together would basically remove all incentive from content creators because anyone can clone their creativity and ideas with zero effort.
I think you are right in theory, but it looks very different in practice. These automatic takedowns are done by the company hosting the files without any official legal regulator getting involved.
The rightsholder of such music licenses usually have vastly more resources and there are no negative consequences for false flags. This means it is better to overregulate which leads to a form of censorship.
Everyone should watch Tom Scott’s video on copyright law to see just how outdated the laws currently are and how that hurts online platforms’ ability to fairly moderate this.
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I remember this bullshit. Fuck any cop who does this.
Not literally, though. Whoever reads this, you can do better.
There’s a good reason why ACAB is sprayed everywhere around the world.
So in other words, the officer is committing copyright infringement by publicly playing music for others to hear.
i mean… is it illegal to play music in public (not counting noise disturbance)
of course the cop is evil though
Playing music in public isn’t illegal, if you’re playing it for yourself. Playing music for the purpose of sharing it with other people would be though.
Think of it like a movie. You can watch a DVD at home no problem, but if you set up a cinema out in the park and open to the public, that would be copyright infringement. The intent is what makes the offense.
It’s a civil case, but technically yes.
oh ok
Death to copyrights!
Reversing The video does solve the problem. But I get the point
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I could agree to this. YouTube definitely shouldn’t be doing their copyright bullshit for shit like this. Cop knows exactly what he’s doing. Prick.
On another note, you could probably use some audio software to remove the audio altogether, attempt to separate the music and the vocals from the cop and people talking. Remove the song, reapply the audio to the video and upload. I’ve done it before but the quality never came out as good in the end. Pain in the ass but there’s definitely ways around this.
Would a noise cancelled recording trigger copyright takedown, treating the song (copyright media) as noise?
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Doesn’t this usually fall under the Fair Use policy? Like, how you are allowed to post copirighted content if you are using it as a joke or as a comentator and such?
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Doesn’t matter, Youtube will flag it.
Exactly my thinking, how can a shitty recording take someone not to buy/stream music. The filter should not take down recordings of recordings, in my opinion. Nobody loses any money with this.
Doesn’t matter, Youtube will flag it.
:D I Know, YouTube does not use it’s filters right…
It does, obviously. Doesn’t matter, Youtube will flag it.
But that’s a YouTube problem, not a copyright problem, right?
The way YouTube moderates copyright is somewhat forced by outdated laws. Tom Scott made an excellent YouTube video or two about this topic which is definitely worth the watch.
Just watched the video. He has 2 points:
copyright is hard because it has to go through bureaucracy. But one thing is the law itself and another is the process. If the process is slow is not the content of the law’s fault. This is why YouTube created Content ID, to try to resolve these cases in a more agile way. They are too massive to make every case go through the whole legal expensive path.
the threshold for content to turn into public domain is too large. No idea how this relates to YouTube copyright issues though. Yeha, maybe the threshold is too large, but is that related to the complaints content creators have around Youtube’s Content ID? Nope. That’s just something he wanted to throw in there, which is just opinion.
Thinking about it… Maybe lowering the threshold could be a relief on the bureaucracy because there would be less open cases. Still, not sure if that would be enough. We’re uploading content exponentially, any justice system would collapse if experts had to check every single case.
This is a very hard problem to solve. With the HUGE incoming wave of AI generated content and the copyright issues surrounding AI, I’m expecting the shit to hit the fan spectacularly.
No its generally a copyright problem. Easier to overregulate as explained in another comment.
But the reason why YouTube overregulates is because of how massive their service is. They couldn’t pay lawyers to check every single video, and they can’t take risks of copyright infringement.
Do you have any proposed solution? It just seems like Youtube’s nature make this a very hard problem to solve, it’s not a copyright thing itself. I really can’t imagine a solution. Having someone check every claim would be insanely difficult. But removing copyright all together would basically remove all incentive from content creators because anyone can clone their creativity and ideas with zero effort.
‘anyone can clone their creativity and ideas with zero effort.’ <- This is already happening.
I think a better solution would be for copyright claims to have evidence, rather than just immediately presuming guilt for the accused.
I really have no idea though. There’s smarter people than me who have better ideas how this could work.
I think you are right in theory, but it looks very different in practice. These automatic takedowns are done by the company hosting the files without any official legal regulator getting involved.
The rightsholder of such music licenses usually have vastly more resources and there are no negative consequences for false flags. This means it is better to overregulate which leads to a form of censorship.
Everyone should watch Tom Scott’s video on copyright law to see just how outdated the laws currently are and how that hurts online platforms’ ability to fairly moderate this.
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