Places like Reddit or Twitter become progressively worse as they get more popular.
Besides, Mastodon is not a replacement of Twitter. It has the same UI and look&feel but it’s very different. Twitter is basically a place where internet celebrities post and other people comment and share. Mastodon is more like regular chaps hanging out and exchanging opinions.
The fact that all VOTES and comments are public is a big deal when it comes to keeping out bad actors, spammers, trolls, and power tripping mods. There was so much mod abuse on reddit and much of it will not be possible here, because we can easily see when people are using alts to game the system.
When I first started using it I did not think so. In the week or so since I’ve sort of wrapped my head around some of it, and now I think it’s certainly possible.
The biggest hangup in my opinion is the very concept. As a normie I get to the login screen and I see that it’s asking for an instance along with a username and password. That’s scary and you’re curious what that even is, so you Google it. And that doesn’t help at all. You’re fed a very technical description that feels like a brick wall of information. It’s intimidating.
Once you are set up on a large instance and logged into a good app, subscribed to some of your niches… Well in my experience at all clicked together pretty quickly. The only thing that’s missing from the Lemmy experience is traffic. I know there are already some pretty big communities and people are starting to say it’s too big or something, but there’s many interests of mine that are booming on Reddit that have a handful or less posts here. Naturally things take time, and I am genuinely starting to believe we’re on the way there with this platform (network of platforms?)
The way I’ve described it to non tech friends and family is “a bunch of different reddits, all with their own subreddits, but the different reddits can all talk to each other even if you only have an account on one. Then if one reddit has stuff your reddit doesn’t want to see, your community (or just the admins) can decide to disconnect from them.” It’s worked well so far.
Yeah, maybe there could be blurb during the sign up section when selecting an instance? That being said, I didn’t know what I was doing when I first signed up for Lemmy and chose Lemmy.world without knowing choosing the largest one didn’t matter.
Email and Usenet used to have the same barrier to entry, you needed someone to host and provide NNTP, POP3 and SMTP servers for you to access them. This was usually your ISP or IT department.
Modern internet users have become so conditioned by FB, Gmail, etc to think that the only way you can access content is though one of these monolithic providers. There are some users who think that FaceBook is the internet (just like Early AOL, MSN and CompuServe users of the 90’s).
I would like to see small ISPs provide federated instances for their subscribers, just like their email servers and the NNTP servers from days of yore. Since most independent ISP churn is triggered by word-of-mouth, it would be a great marketing platform.
I don’t think that Lemmy will ever be as popular as Reddit used to be. The recent events deflated the platform, and Lemmy will grow in popularity on their expanse. At this point Reddit is in decline while Lemmy is not mature enough as a community. Times are changing, and users who left Reddit either in protest of the recent changes, due to a decline in content quality or because of both of these things will find a different platform. It might be the end of the glory days of link aggregators in the style of Reddit, of AMAs, announcements and celebrities lurking and commenting. It was so nice to stumble across comments by Rick Astley or Peter Mayhew (The original Chewbacca), or your favorite YouTuber. I don’t expect Lemmy to be able to replicate that.
I’m hoping it won’t. I’ve had discussions with my friends from the earlier days of the Internet. The Internet was a much nicer place when you didn’t have everyone and their grandma on it. You actually had to be tech literate to use it. This resulted in higher quality interactions and content. You still had undesirable groups and places, but they were sectioned off to their own corner. Now, social media and its algorithms give everyone a soapbox. I’d rather they stay off my fediverse lawn.
I really think that lemmy can be as popular as Reddit. I just downloaded an app called connect for lemmy on my android and the experience is just the same as Reddit. One good app (like Sync for Reddit, Apollo, etc.) might be what is needed.
I have been a Reddit user for longer than 10 years I think. And I check Reddit with my phone daily. I admit, that without Reddit there is a void to be filled and connect for lemmy does exactly just that. :D.
I really see no reason that lemmy can’t be as big a Reddit, given enough time and exposure.
I’m a bad fediverser and still have my Reddit and Twitter apps installed, but only until Rubén’s Boost stops working. Then I’ll be stuck choosing between Connect and Boost when Rubén releases his Lemmy client
Same here. I’m on Reddit until Boost stops working.
Seems I’ll be stuck on Twitter for a while, though, as most of the people I follow on Twitter haven’t moved over to Mastodon or at least started posting to both.
Just this morning I was debating if I should go ahead and start using Connect and then switch to Boost when it releases, or instead to just wait and continue using my browser until Boost.
For me, at least, I don’t want to pigeonhole myself into a single client just because I know what the experience is like from his Reddit client. I’m willing to try whichever clients are out there until I find something I’m fully happy with.
Logging in to Mastadon is its biggest problem. That whole “login to the server you created the account” is fucking horrible. Plus the login on mobile iOS is broken as the password generator is completely borked if you try to use your own.
We are so used to the idea that a social media network has to dominate the world - ekse it’s a failure. If Lemmy, Mastodon, Pixelfed or your old fishing forum is enjoyed by some people, it’s a success.
Reddit, in my opinion, has become mainstream due to its ability to be searched via engines such as Google. I think Lemmy would need to have that same level of discoverability if the platform should take off. I’m not sure if doing this risks Google or others threatening the platform via “embrace, extend, and extinguish”, but perhaps Lemmy needs to be accompanied by a decentralized search engine itself that can browse the entire Fediverse. I’m new to the fediverse so I’m not sure if such a software exists, but clearly I think discoverability is paramount for giving new users a reason to see Lemmy and maybe stick around
If Lemmy gets big enough, google will work on any customized scraping of the fediverse they need to add in, because it’ll be in their best interest. They might already be able to since Lemmy isn’t private for non-logged in users.
In fact as a user of one different forum I was able to witness search engines logging in as bots for better access. I know this sounds made-up, but the forum was made with/powered by Xenforo. Btw XDA forums and lot of other forums are also made with xenforo. It’s possible that xenforo has a built-in support for search indexing bots, but I don’t reaľly know if that’s the case.
Becoming mainstream started the slow strangulation of Reddit for me. The conversations became more polarizing and stiffling. The takes less thoughtful, and the unoriginal comments more prevalent. So I hope Lemmy doesn’t become mainstream.
I do think Lemmy can grow, but if the recent events were not able to slow down the Reddit juggernaut; I do not see another platform coming to rival Reddit.
if the recent events were not able to slow down the Reddit juggernaut; I do not see another platform coming to rival Reddit.
I do think they were able to hurt Reddit or we wouldn’t have seen the reaction they had (threatening and suspending mods, spez giving a press tour to reassure everyone that the protest wasn’t affecting anything, etc.). And I’ve seen people say they noticed a change in the content on Reddit’s front page ever since the protest started. That is to say, the quality of the content has degraded further ever since the protest started, and it hasn’t recovered.
Not to mention some subreddits are still protesting. For example, /r/PICS is still posting only pictures of John Oliver, and they just marked the entire sub as NSFW, not because of gore and porn (which is still banned by the /r/PICS mods; this circumvents the “issues” /r/interestingasfuck ran into when it went NSFW), but because people were using profanity (which, according to Reddit policy, is NSFW) and not just vulgarity (which isn’t mentioned in Reddit policy regarding NSFW material).
I think lemmy won’t be easy enough to use for a vast majority of users, they’ll stick to the traditional platforms.
However, I think if the hype continues for a while, and the little kinks are ironed out soon enough, it will give rise to a new, different kind of platform.
People have this idea that lemmy will replace reddit and just become Reddit 2.0. I think lemmy is still a place similar to a phoenix burning. The new bird has yet to take it’s first breath, and it’ll be quiet different from what we imagine or what we are used to today
First post on Lemmy. I hope that Lemmy and Mastodon can replace Reddit and Twitter. It feels hard to imagine right now, because finding communities and signing up is really confusing. I already gave up on Mastodon because it was too much of a hassle.
It might get a huge boost in usage now that Meta released Threads. In the main page, it said that the app will be able to connect to the fediverse and specifically mentioned Mastodon as an example. Maybe someday I’ll be able to stop using reddit altogether. But that day is not today.
We used to say the same thing about GNU/Linux on the desktop, and we were/are ridiculed constantly.
The fact is that it is. While Android isn’t the same as Linux, it (and every other consumer platform besides MacOS, iOS and Windows) is based on Linux.
When Instagram Threads is released in a day-and-a-half, (and if it lives upto it’s potential and isn’t just a case of Embrace-Extend-Extinguish), ActivityPub and the Fediverse will be mainstream.
97% chance of being EEE. Suddenly everyone will be coming to the Fediverse but not because they’re interested but to talk to people on Threads. Then they’re going to deviate from the AP spec slowly and become the de facto standard and so on. Or they’re going to pull a Google Chat.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]
No such thing. Ask away!
!nostupidquestions is a community space dedicated to being helpful and answering each others’ questions on various topics.
Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All posts titles must include a question.
All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.
Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.
Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.
Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.
Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.
Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.
That’s it.
Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.
Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.
Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.
Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.
On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it’s in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.
If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.
Rule 7- You can't harass or disturb other members.
If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.
Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.
Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content. Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.
Let everyone have their own content.
Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.
Unless included in our Whitelist for Bots, your bot will not be allowed to participate in this community. To have your bot whitelisted, please contact the moderators for a short review.
Partnered Communities
You can view our partnered communities list by following this link. To partner with our community and be included, you are free to message the moderators or comment on a pinned post.
Community Moderation
For inquiry on becoming a moderator of this community, you may comment on the pinned post of the time, or simply shoot a message to the current moderators.
Matrix Chat Room
To find & join our chat room, log into fluffychat.im(or any other matrix client) and put #nostupidquestions:matrix.org on the search bar.
Credits
Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!
I hope not.
Places like Reddit or Twitter become progressively worse as they get more popular.
Besides, Mastodon is not a replacement of Twitter. It has the same UI and look&feel but it’s very different. Twitter is basically a place where internet celebrities post and other people comment and share. Mastodon is more like regular chaps hanging out and exchanging opinions.
That could be different. Lemmy is not corporate owned.
Just because something’s not corporate owned doesn’t mean bad actors can come onto this platform. I’ve seen some unsavory people here already.
The fact that all VOTES and comments are public is a big deal when it comes to keeping out bad actors, spammers, trolls, and power tripping mods. There was so much mod abuse on reddit and much of it will not be possible here, because we can easily see when people are using alts to game the system.
When I first started using it I did not think so. In the week or so since I’ve sort of wrapped my head around some of it, and now I think it’s certainly possible.
The biggest hangup in my opinion is the very concept. As a normie I get to the login screen and I see that it’s asking for an instance along with a username and password. That’s scary and you’re curious what that even is, so you Google it. And that doesn’t help at all. You’re fed a very technical description that feels like a brick wall of information. It’s intimidating.
Once you are set up on a large instance and logged into a good app, subscribed to some of your niches… Well in my experience at all clicked together pretty quickly. The only thing that’s missing from the Lemmy experience is traffic. I know there are already some pretty big communities and people are starting to say it’s too big or something, but there’s many interests of mine that are booming on Reddit that have a handful or less posts here. Naturally things take time, and I am genuinely starting to believe we’re on the way there with this platform (network of platforms?)
The way I’ve described it to non tech friends and family is “a bunch of different reddits, all with their own subreddits, but the different reddits can all talk to each other even if you only have an account on one. Then if one reddit has stuff your reddit doesn’t want to see, your community (or just the admins) can decide to disconnect from them.” It’s worked well so far.
Yeah that’s a pretty accurate way of putting it ngl. I’m probably stealing this
Yeah, maybe there could be blurb during the sign up section when selecting an instance? That being said, I didn’t know what I was doing when I first signed up for Lemmy and chose Lemmy.world without knowing choosing the largest one didn’t matter.
Email and Usenet used to have the same barrier to entry, you needed someone to host and provide NNTP, POP3 and SMTP servers for you to access them. This was usually your ISP or IT department.
Modern internet users have become so conditioned by FB, Gmail, etc to think that the only way you can access content is though one of these monolithic providers. There are some users who think that FaceBook is the internet (just like Early AOL, MSN and CompuServe users of the 90’s).
I would like to see small ISPs provide federated instances for their subscribers, just like their email servers and the NNTP servers from days of yore. Since most independent ISP churn is triggered by word-of-mouth, it would be a great marketing platform.
I think it will but not for a while. We need more quality contents and not just beans.
I don’t think that Lemmy will ever be as popular as Reddit used to be. The recent events deflated the platform, and Lemmy will grow in popularity on their expanse. At this point Reddit is in decline while Lemmy is not mature enough as a community. Times are changing, and users who left Reddit either in protest of the recent changes, due to a decline in content quality or because of both of these things will find a different platform. It might be the end of the glory days of link aggregators in the style of Reddit, of AMAs, announcements and celebrities lurking and commenting. It was so nice to stumble across comments by Rick Astley or Peter Mayhew (The original Chewbacca), or your favorite YouTuber. I don’t expect Lemmy to be able to replicate that.
I’m hoping it won’t. I’ve had discussions with my friends from the earlier days of the Internet. The Internet was a much nicer place when you didn’t have everyone and their grandma on it. You actually had to be tech literate to use it. This resulted in higher quality interactions and content. You still had undesirable groups and places, but they were sectioned off to their own corner. Now, social media and its algorithms give everyone a soapbox. I’d rather they stay off my fediverse lawn.
Ultimately I see corporations owning all the most popular servers, and attempting to federate with everyone else.
This is my first comment! :)
I really think that lemmy can be as popular as Reddit. I just downloaded an app called connect for lemmy on my android and the experience is just the same as Reddit. One good app (like Sync for Reddit, Apollo, etc.) might be what is needed.
I’m hoping the Dev of boost comes through
Same, I loved boost, have got the boost for Lemmy preload on my phone already.
Same, let’s go!
Not my first comment, but very long (11years) lurker, and I must say, Connect has both replaced the spot of RIF as well as the void in my brain.
Yeah. :)
I have been a Reddit user for longer than 10 years I think. And I check Reddit with my phone daily. I admit, that without Reddit there is a void to be filled and connect for lemmy does exactly just that. :D.
I really see no reason that lemmy can’t be as big a Reddit, given enough time and exposure.
I’m a bad fediverser and still have my Reddit and Twitter apps installed, but only until Rubén’s Boost stops working. Then I’ll be stuck choosing between Connect and Boost when Rubén releases his Lemmy client
Same here. I’m on Reddit until Boost stops working.
Seems I’ll be stuck on Twitter for a while, though, as most of the people I follow on Twitter haven’t moved over to Mastodon or at least started posting to both.
Just this morning I was debating if I should go ahead and start using Connect and then switch to Boost when it releases, or instead to just wait and continue using my browser until Boost.
For me, at least, I don’t want to pigeonhole myself into a single client just because I know what the experience is like from his Reddit client. I’m willing to try whichever clients are out there until I find something I’m fully happy with.
I see the potential with Lemmy. I was able to adapt to this far quicker than Mastodon. Albeit I was more of a Reddit user and barely touched Twitter.
What I’m curious about is how things will fair once the two competitors of Twitter come out soon. - Threads and Bluesky.
I think Bluesky has real potential to become mainstream.
I don’t see why not. Mastodon is already pretty mmainstream with more than 13 million accounts.
Logging in to Mastadon is its biggest problem. That whole “login to the server you created the account” is fucking horrible. Plus the login on mobile iOS is broken as the password generator is completely borked if you try to use your own.
We are so used to the idea that a social media network has to dominate the world - ekse it’s a failure. If Lemmy, Mastodon, Pixelfed or your old fishing forum is enjoyed by some people, it’s a success.
Reddit, in my opinion, has become mainstream due to its ability to be searched via engines such as Google. I think Lemmy would need to have that same level of discoverability if the platform should take off. I’m not sure if doing this risks Google or others threatening the platform via “embrace, extend, and extinguish”, but perhaps Lemmy needs to be accompanied by a decentralized search engine itself that can browse the entire Fediverse. I’m new to the fediverse so I’m not sure if such a software exists, but clearly I think discoverability is paramount for giving new users a reason to see Lemmy and maybe stick around
There was a project called Yacy but it clearly never took off.
If Lemmy gets big enough, google will work on any customized scraping of the fediverse they need to add in, because it’ll be in their best interest. They might already be able to since Lemmy isn’t private for non-logged in users.
In fact as a user of one different forum I was able to witness search engines logging in as bots for better access. I know this sounds made-up, but the forum was made with/powered by Xenforo. Btw XDA forums and lot of other forums are also made with xenforo. It’s possible that xenforo has a built-in support for search indexing bots, but I don’t reaľly know if that’s the case.
Becoming mainstream started the slow strangulation of Reddit for me. The conversations became more polarizing and stiffling. The takes less thoughtful, and the unoriginal comments more prevalent. So I hope Lemmy doesn’t become mainstream.
I do think Lemmy can grow, but if the recent events were not able to slow down the Reddit juggernaut; I do not see another platform coming to rival Reddit.
I do think they were able to hurt Reddit or we wouldn’t have seen the reaction they had (threatening and suspending mods, spez giving a press tour to reassure everyone that the protest wasn’t affecting anything, etc.). And I’ve seen people say they noticed a change in the content on Reddit’s front page ever since the protest started. That is to say, the quality of the content has degraded further ever since the protest started, and it hasn’t recovered.
Not to mention some subreddits are still protesting. For example, /r/PICS is still posting only pictures of John Oliver, and they just marked the entire sub as NSFW, not because of gore and porn (which is still banned by the /r/PICS mods; this circumvents the “issues” /r/interestingasfuck ran into when it went NSFW), but because people were using profanity (which, according to Reddit policy, is NSFW) and not just vulgarity (which isn’t mentioned in Reddit policy regarding NSFW material).
Yes, but not in the way you’d think.
I think lemmy won’t be easy enough to use for a vast majority of users, they’ll stick to the traditional platforms.
However, I think if the hype continues for a while, and the little kinks are ironed out soon enough, it will give rise to a new, different kind of platform.
People have this idea that lemmy will replace reddit and just become Reddit 2.0. I think lemmy is still a place similar to a phoenix burning. The new bird has yet to take it’s first breath, and it’ll be quiet different from what we imagine or what we are used to today
First post on Lemmy. I hope that Lemmy and Mastodon can replace Reddit and Twitter. It feels hard to imagine right now, because finding communities and signing up is really confusing. I already gave up on Mastodon because it was too much of a hassle.
It might get a huge boost in usage now that Meta released Threads. In the main page, it said that the app will be able to connect to the fediverse and specifically mentioned Mastodon as an example. Maybe someday I’ll be able to stop using reddit altogether. But that day is not today.
Precisely. I’ll likely block all traffic from Meta’s instance, but that would cause a ton of users to migrate.
We used to say the same thing about GNU/Linux on the desktop, and we were/are ridiculed constantly. The fact is that it is. While Android isn’t the same as Linux, it (and every other consumer platform besides MacOS, iOS and Windows) is based on Linux.
When Instagram Threads is released in a day-and-a-half, (and if it lives upto it’s potential and isn’t just a case of Embrace-Extend-Extinguish), ActivityPub and the Fediverse will be mainstream.
97% chance of being EEE. Suddenly everyone will be coming to the Fediverse but not because they’re interested but to talk to people on Threads. Then they’re going to deviate from the AP spec slowly and become the de facto standard and so on. Or they’re going to pull a Google Chat.
Great post on the mastodon blog, clearing things up;
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/
In a nutshell, Zuck may want to EEE, but ActivityPub already has enough of a user graph and is structured in such a way that it would not be possible.