I commonly read youtube comments that state a drug like Strattera completely changed their adhd for the better.
Whilst I havnt tried this(yet) I wondered what other options exist?
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I’m 43 and have had pretty troublesome ADHD my whole life. I was a mess of a student and failed at several careers. That said, I have found some intermittent and sometimes lasting success working in tech sales. I am still a disorganized mess. I still need meds. I take Vyvanse. What has brought some semblance of organizational presence for me is journaling. When I journal in the morning, it calms the noise and releases some of the pressure. The entries are garbage noise from my brain mixed with some formatted statements of accomplishments. Any kind of positive streak I have going gets a mention. It helps to not feel like the chaotic anxiety and noise bomb that I often can be to people.
Meds help, but they change things. Adderall makes me high and obnoxious until I crash. Concerta makes me mean and unable to transition. I worked in mental health for a long time and didn’t like what I saw happen to people with strattera, so I haven’t tried that one. Vyvanse gives me the push and focus without the hyper focus or mood crash. My emotions seem like my own. That’s why I stuck with it.
There are areas that your ADHD can thrive. You are allowed to indulge in those. You can forgive yourself for being extra weight for the people you love at times.
If your life affords you any room for it, be outside and find any way(s) to create. Cook, sing, write, play ping pong… ADHD does offer some areas of excellence along with the deficits. Lean into those whenever and however you can.
It’s still the world. It still actively hates you. We’ve got to get through this life somehow though.
Man I wish I had the reaction to Vyvanse you do, makes me feel the same as Ritalin did, like I have no emotions at all and was just a shell of a person. Adderall works just fine but I really wish I could find something that worked like Dexedrine did before I hit puberty. And I can’t take Wellbutrin because that makes me suicidal
Would you care to elaborate on the downsides of Strattera? I’ve been considering switching to Vyvanse for a while now but couldn’t find a compelling reason to tell my insurance why they should support the switch (I think lisdexamphetamine is more expensive than atomoxetin).
So this is hard because I didn’t take it myself, but I worked in a mental health hospital for 12 years and saw how different meds interact with different people. What I saw somewhat consistently with strattera was a shortening of temper. Lisa so in children, but with adults, I saw people become violent over what most would consider mild disruptions to their day. When I spoke with some of the doctors I worked with, a few said that they wouldn’t ever recommend this med because their patients reported feeling angry all the time. Keep in mind, this is all just my little experience. I kinda hate taking meds, but today I take gabapentin and Vyvanse and both my adhd and anxiety are mostly pretty manageable. I still fuck up my bills and forget important things and all the stuff that comes with the loudness of ADHD. I am enjoying my life though and I’m able to keep to most of my healthy routines.
Thank you for your response. Luckily, I cannot say I’m particularly short-tempered. Certainly not moreso than unmedicated. That said, when I do get upset the Strattera might make things a little worse for me, with side effects ranging from dry mouth to dizziness.
In order:
DIAGNOSIS. Just understanding why my brain did what it did helped at least curb some of the worse negative feelings and thoughts, and got those around me to better understand and help
Mushrooms. Mixed with therapy and diagnosis these are a really good way to completely re-attune yourself after years of not understanding or having control. Do them responsibly with someone you can trust if it’s your first time
Meds. Adderall was the first I tried and it really works well for me. Basically restores my ability to control my thoughts to some degree. The rest of fixing me is on me, these just enable it at all
Welp, guess it’s time for me to start doing shrooms again
Not just blindly doing them, like I said they open you up and help get over hurdles that otherwise make the journey almost impossible (at least for me)
Read up and have a guide ready for yourself, ideally someone else to help you out with it, someone you can trust and be unbelievably vulnerable in front of
Micro dosing can also just help if you’re not on meds. Not a perfect replacement imo but it DID help
I’ve done them before when I was struggling with anxiety. I stopped once I felt like they didn’t serve a purpose anymore.
Shrooms are more of a tool than a fun drug.
However, they are fun as fuck.
Fair warning I know many people who love strattera, but it knocks me out cold. I basically spent a summer sleeping through everything as a kid
For me, learning to manage my life in a way that works with my ADHD. For example, if I learn I need to do something, and it’s something I can do now, I get up and do it. If I don’t, I’m likely to forget or put it off too long. Finding ways to build routines, like I suddenly decided I should lick my teeth when getting ready for bed, this makes me realize they are dirty, and I feel forced to brush my teeth before I can sleep. Before that I wasn’t brushing every day. You have to figure out what ADHD prevents you from doing like a normal person, and plan around it.
I don’t medicate right now because I have enough control to be able to function at work and my day to day life without it. But I’ve also had success in the past from either Vyvanse and Strattera (took them at different periods in my life)
Thats a terrific cue, I’m going to implement that
Vyvanse
A good therapist using evidence based techniques.
Short release methylphenidate.
I take focalin and it’s the only medicine that has worked for my ADHD.
As for non-medicinal things, I started volunteering recently and my goodness has it helped. I water and groom horses at a stables and it leaves my brain and body refreshed for days after.
Treating my sleep apnea, and also getting adderall
You use the machine or other things?
I got a machine from my doctor
What side do you sleep on and can you move around easily?
I usually flip back and forth between my left and right side. The air tube has plenty of slack and there’s a hinge and pivot where it meets the mask so it moves around pretty easily.
That bottom acronym really takes the whole thing in a potentially wildly different direction.
No. You take it in that direction for some reason.
Sounds like CBT alright
Aww man, this sounds fucking awful - but 10/10 just accepting myself. Because
a) you know what to look for when you are doing yourself dirty
b) you know what to not accept when others are doing you dirty
c) you know what to fess up over when you do others dirty
d) you can self-regulate within your own control “adulting”
e) you have sooo much less shame about existing
Second most, Adderall XR. It’ll knock your ass out at the end of the day, so you’re not up at 2 am snickering about something stupid or waking up feeling like some sort of cave-goblin and hating life because you stayed up to 2 am snickering about something stupid. But you gotta figure out what works for you. Also your dosage. Also, don’t listen to people on Youtube. Half of them are probably shills, bots or agents of chaos and the majority of people on Youtube (as a whole) suck. They’re always trying to sell you something, or be overly dramatic to entertain. But they don’t act like real humans. I like weird music and long-form essays and I think without those two being on Youtube I wouldn’t touch the place because I can’t stand seeing videos with pictures like “WOAH! 100% QUICKER WAY TO REVERSE YOUR WHAT!?” and the person in the picture is going ٩(☉‿☉)ง!!!
Follow what feels right to you though, you don’t have to listen to me. I’m just some asshole on the internet =P
… Wait… Are sleep patterns affected by adhd also?? Is that why I have to be dead ass tired to sleep or I can’t sleep? Or is that something else? I’ve definitely had those nights where I’m either trying to sleep and can’t because I’m not quite at that level, OR I’m just not tired and I’m up until 2am and have to be up in 4 hrs.
I usually can’t sleep until I’m basically ready to pass out. I don’t get to that point until I’ve been awake for 18/19 hours.
It’s not just you.
I started with concerta and I’m able to get in 7-8 hours of sleep pretty consistently now.
Ayo, I usually get 4-6 hrs of sleep. I think my machine says I’m averaging 5.5.
Did you get diagnosed with adhd then put on Concerta? What is that for?
Yeah, concerta is adjacent to Ritalin. Similar chemicals with similar effects from what I understand of it (I’m neither a doctor, nor a pharmacist).
I was “diagnosed” with ADHD, by my family physician, it’s not a full diagnosis, that can only be done by a psychiatrist, which I haven’t done.
I take it in the morning and by the end of the day, I’m usually tired enough to sleep at an appropriate hour. I don’t take it for that reason, it’s a happy side effect. The primary effect is restoring some level of control over my focus. Ita been doing a good job so far.
Mr beast alright it’s in the name
Remedies don’t do anything for me, so instead, I try to change my behaviors and mindset. It’s hard since it’s a tug of war against myself, but I think I am getting better. And as the saying goes, to solve a problem, first the person needs to know he/she has a problem, so I try to keep an eye for potential issues I may have.
Generic adderall.
Upvote^2. Try cheaper older stuff. (To “this day is bananas”): 👏 CHEAP MEDS ARE GENERIC / g e n e r i c 👏
Adderal XR 20-30mg and realizing when its an off day dont commit to anything serious.
Other than meds?
Actually getting enough sleep.