I’m neither mod nor member. Maybe people could leave them alone and stop picking fights, then wallowing in self-victimization over reactive abuse, aka abuse-by-proxy. It is abuse and it is ugly.
I’m also neither a mod nor member. I have never posted nor commented in c/vegan. I do not habitually downvote posts from c/vegan. I am banned from c/vegan, as of about a week ago.
If that isn’t overreach, I dunno what is.
If they don’t want non-members to be able to vote or comment on their stuff, that’s fine, take the community private.
Okay now I’m just getting ready to block Beaver, thejerkface and Thelemmybud because they just keep spamming this all over the place. I don’t know if their intention is to try to drum up support but it should be obvious to them from the number of downvotes they keep getting that their crocodile tears aren’t working.
Some months ago, maybe a year, you responded to one of my comments with something along the lines of, “How many fucking accounts of yours do I have to block?” I set about responding to the comment from each of my accounts so you could block them all then I got distracted and did something else.
The Lemmy/Reddit moderator structure is a failure. Communities should have democratic governance.
On this specific issue I think everyone involved needs to take a deep breath, step away from the issue for like 24 hours, and talk to each other respectfully to work out how this should be resolved. But that is just my opinion.
I wonder what kind of structure they used. I’m also a mod mainly because somebody has to be. But my communities are small and not controversial so I haven’t had to do anything controversial either. It’s mostly that I’m willing to keep an eye on things.
However, maybe I should walk the walk and start thinking about how that might work in case they grow to the point where more moderation becomes necessary.
It would be fantastic to see an automated system, like with X downvotes a post or comment gets hidden, yet all it takes is one extra click to show it so it doesn’t mean much.
However, the Lemmy devs seem strictly pro-authoritarian so I expect to never see that on Lemmy, unless it is developed and shown to work elsewhere and becomes too popular to ignore. i.e. the power-tripping gods people in charge is baked right in as a feature, not a bug (it would seem).
But… maybe in Piefed, Sublinks, Mbin, or something else?
Hi vegans! I’m not really inclined to go anywhere near c/vegan while you’re working all this stuff out so while you’re here let me just take this opportunity to say I admire your diet and stuff. Glad you’re around, hope it goes well.
All they did was kick a bunch of mods that were harming a community and trying to create drama without even having the balls to discuss openly the reasons they were banning people. The comments about how a moderator that was there for 3 months should have more power than a moderator that had been there for 11 days (despite one of them not having the wellbeing of the community as a priority) is an amazing joke.
https://lemmy.world/post/19731457
everyone should read this post and they will quickly understand after reading op and the comments from people like jerkface why this happened. Posting a modlog without context or explanation is acting in pretty bad faith here.
Also, as a community (lemmy as a whole) we should think if we want to keep people like Beaver who moderates 100+ communities, there are a lot of people moderating way more than they can chew and becoming really stupid, as also seen recently with the bot drama in news on lemmy world. We really love to be repeating reddits problems.
I mean the fact that the 3 of you have a particularly similar aggressive nature and after leaving 1 post all came here to keep up the exact same kind of bitchiness is not helping your argument.
Beaver started banning people for downvoting posts. A fellow mod reached out to Beaver to say that had not been the policy and if they wanted that to be the policy going forward the mods would need to discuss it. Beaver then ignored the request to discuss the new policy that Beaver arbitrarily decided on. The issue here seems to be Beaver, period.
Well I’m not a mod and I didn’t demod you, but from my opinion of how it played out A, you immediately jumped to Beavers defense and said you didn’t have a problem banning people for downvoting, B, immediately tried to downplay them not responding to the mod request to discuss that action, C, based on how you’re responding here sound completely unfit to be a mod which should require a certain level of maturity, and of course D the possibility that you’re an alt.
A) is an opinion and it was stated as an opinion, since the post served in place of the discussion that was skipped. I feel justified in sharing my opinion about the direction I want the community to take. I can’t force my views on anyone, and it seems amazingly insecure to respond to that with a unilateral de-mod.
B) was a request for patience and discussion before people started de-modding each other. But okay, let’s call it “downplaying” for the sake of argument. I don’t see how such downplaying amounts to justification to de-mod me.
C) I can’t respond to but I do find it rather uncharitable. If you can give an example, I’d appreciate that. And D) I can never assure someone who wishes to believe otherwise.
When it comes down to it, it sounds like you are saying the other mod was justified in de-modding me because I voiced disagreement with his choices. Plus a bunch of other stuff about me just plain not deserving to be a mod for reasons I admit I don’t grasp; that I’m just intrinsically deserving of being de-modded. Have I got it?
Actually, out of all the foods I’ve eaten, tofu makes me feel consistently the fullest for longest. I don’t know why it works that way, but even meat was never this effective.
Also, it sounds like whatever salads you’re eating are pretty mid if you can’t feel full after them. Half a bag of iceberg lettuce with dressing and three croutons isn’t a meal.
Tofu is freaking bomb for satiation. Can’t say it outperforms meat overall, but as a single food, it equals it, gram for gram. Like, if I’m eating tofu by itself, it gets me just as satisfied as meat by itself.
I think it ends up not lasting as long sometimes because of the lower fat levels. You have to bring fats to the party for long term satiation for most people. That’s easy to achieve though.
But yeah, I definitely feel you. And now I want some teriyaki tofu dammit.
Agreed. There’s a particular Chinese seitan dish that I really like but I don’t know what it’s called. It tastes kind of like a sweet curry flavor and is very juicy. Would anyone happen to know what it could be?
If you’re making it on your own, the problem might be that you don’t press it. Unpressed tofu makes me feel sick too, and it’s really vital to do so so it can absorb flavors.
If it’s when you’re eating out, I’m not really sure in that case. Tofu can be anything from extremely soft to pretty firm, so it could be the firmness of the tofu that’s an issue here, but it’s hard to say. I like it when tofu is very firm and then cooked to be crispy personally.
I’ve never cooked tofu myself. The one good meal I had, I had been eating for 6 months before realizing it was tofu! It was great. Sadly, I moved from South Texas to the north, and cannot find a place that can prepare tofu I can stomach.
Listen up, carnoid of planet Omnius, many geological surveys have shown robust evidence that Vega is capable of harboring all known forms of humanoid life and that its atmospheric makeup in fact provides benefits for cardiovascular health and hivemind coherency.
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I’m neither mod nor member. Maybe people could leave them alone and stop picking fights, then wallowing in self-victimization over reactive abuse, aka abuse-by-proxy. It is abuse and it is ugly.
I’m also neither a mod nor member. I have never posted nor commented in c/vegan. I do not habitually downvote posts from c/vegan. I am banned from c/vegan, as of about a week ago.
If that isn’t overreach, I dunno what is.
If they don’t want non-members to be able to vote or comment on their stuff, that’s fine, take the community private.
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Okay now I’m just getting ready to block Beaver, thejerkface and Thelemmybud because they just keep spamming this all over the place. I don’t know if their intention is to try to drum up support but it should be obvious to them from the number of downvotes they keep getting that their crocodile tears aren’t working.
Poor Jerkface. He’s funny. He threatened to block all of my accounts but didn’t. I like him. He makes me laugh.
Sorry, I did what? “All of my accounts?” Do I know you?
Some months ago, maybe a year, you responded to one of my comments with something along the lines of, “How many fucking accounts of yours do I have to block?” I set about responding to the comment from each of my accounts so you could block them all then I got distracted and did something else.
Are vegans vegan? Watching mods eat each other brings up weird questions for me.
Fuck, sorry, it was a cheat day. (Eating the rich is still vegan tho btw)
Obviously truth… The richer they are, the more they appear to have IQs lower than carrots.
Eat the rich: it’s good for the country AND your health!
The Lemmy/Reddit moderator structure is a failure. Communities should have democratic governance.
On this specific issue I think everyone involved needs to take a deep breath, step away from the issue for like 24 hours, and talk to each other respectfully to work out how this should be resolved. But that is just my opinion.
I’ve seen some instances elect their admins. No mod election yet, but that probably happened somewhere.
To be fair, as a mod myself, the issue is usually to get potential mod candidates in the first place.
I wonder what kind of structure they used. I’m also a mod mainly because somebody has to be. But my communities are small and not controversial so I haven’t had to do anything controversial either. It’s mostly that I’m willing to keep an eye on things.
However, maybe I should walk the walk and start thinking about how that might work in case they grow to the point where more moderation becomes necessary.
I just realized I’ve seen you a lot on /r/Redditalternatives! Nice to see you here!
Likewise. I like to spread the good word as well haha.
It would be fantastic to see an automated system, like with X downvotes a post or comment gets hidden, yet all it takes is one extra click to show it so it doesn’t mean much.
However, the Lemmy devs seem strictly pro-authoritarian so I expect to never see that on Lemmy, unless it is developed and shown to work elsewhere and becomes too popular to ignore. i.e. the power-tripping
godspeople in charge is baked right in as a feature, not a bug (it would seem).But… maybe in Piefed, Sublinks, Mbin, or something else?
This is simultaneously the most hilarious and least consequential meltdown on the internet this year.
Vegan coup
Hi vegans! I’m not really inclined to go anywhere near c/vegan while you’re working all this stuff out so while you’re here let me just take this opportunity to say I admire your diet and stuff. Glad you’re around, hope it goes well.
You have been banned by c/vegan
Can’t wait for this to be lemmy’s /r/Pyongyang
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All they did was kick a bunch of mods that were harming a community and trying to create drama without even having the balls to discuss openly the reasons they were banning people. The comments about how a moderator that was there for 3 months should have more power than a moderator that had been there for 11 days (despite one of them not having the wellbeing of the community as a priority) is an amazing joke. https://lemmy.world/post/19731457 everyone should read this post and they will quickly understand after reading op and the comments from people like jerkface why this happened. Posting a modlog without context or explanation is acting in pretty bad faith here.
Also, as a community (lemmy as a whole) we should think if we want to keep people like Beaver who moderates 100+ communities, there are a lot of people moderating way more than they can chew and becoming really stupid, as also seen recently with the bot drama in news on lemmy world. We really love to be repeating reddits problems.
95 of those are inactive.
There are mods on LW who moderate 10 active communities. Even further, any LW admins can virtually mod all of the LW community.
Indeed.
I take it that was a swipe at me.
Sorry you feel that way.
I don’t do as much moderation as my co-mods, and that’s by design. All our moderators are active and spread across the globe.
I just happen to be the face of the community.
Also, thanks for being civil. You don’t want to see the DMs mods got. It was brutal.
Crazy how much juicy drama that community has been providing. The rest need to step up or this place will just be about vegans.
And bean memes… Hey! WAIT A SECOND!
Sorry, this whole thing was a guerilla marketing campaign for legumes all along.
I mean the fact that the 3 of you have a particularly similar aggressive nature and after leaving 1 post all came here to keep up the exact same kind of bitchiness is not helping your argument.
Beaver started banning people for downvoting posts. A fellow mod reached out to Beaver to say that had not been the policy and if they wanted that to be the policy going forward the mods would need to discuss it. Beaver then ignored the request to discuss the new policy that Beaver arbitrarily decided on. The issue here seems to be Beaver, period.
Aggressive? Gasp. BITCHINESS? I am wounded. But I still love you.
Would you care to assay on what justification exists to demod me?
Well I’m not a mod and I didn’t demod you, but from my opinion of how it played out A, you immediately jumped to Beavers defense and said you didn’t have a problem banning people for downvoting, B, immediately tried to downplay them not responding to the mod request to discuss that action, C, based on how you’re responding here sound completely unfit to be a mod which should require a certain level of maturity, and of course D the possibility that you’re an alt.
Thanks. Interesting thoughts.
A) is an opinion and it was stated as an opinion, since the post served in place of the discussion that was skipped. I feel justified in sharing my opinion about the direction I want the community to take. I can’t force my views on anyone, and it seems amazingly insecure to respond to that with a unilateral de-mod.
B) was a request for patience and discussion before people started de-modding each other. But okay, let’s call it “downplaying” for the sake of argument. I don’t see how such downplaying amounts to justification to de-mod me.
C) I can’t respond to but I do find it rather uncharitable. If you can give an example, I’d appreciate that. And D) I can never assure someone who wishes to believe otherwise.
When it comes down to it, it sounds like you are saying the other mod was justified in de-modding me because I voiced disagreement with his choices. Plus a bunch of other stuff about me just plain not deserving to be a mod for reasons I admit I don’t grasp; that I’m just intrinsically deserving of being de-modded. Have I got it?
The only part of your biased, self-serving spin on everything I said which I agree with is the part where you said you are not deserving to be a mod.
Clearly you are not interested in engaging. I still love you, though. I just don’t like you very much right now.
I’m cheering for you.
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Hard to feel full when you eat salad all day
Actually, out of all the foods I’ve eaten, tofu makes me feel consistently the fullest for longest. I don’t know why it works that way, but even meat was never this effective.
Also, it sounds like whatever salads you’re eating are pretty mid if you can’t feel full after them. Half a bag of iceberg lettuce with dressing and three croutons isn’t a meal.
Tofu is freaking bomb for satiation. Can’t say it outperforms meat overall, but as a single food, it equals it, gram for gram. Like, if I’m eating tofu by itself, it gets me just as satisfied as meat by itself.
I think it ends up not lasting as long sometimes because of the lower fat levels. You have to bring fats to the party for long term satiation for most people. That’s easy to achieve though.
But yeah, I definitely feel you. And now I want some teriyaki tofu dammit.
Tofu is good but among the traditional protein sources seitan is my favorite. It’s got the best texture by far.
Agreed. There’s a particular Chinese seitan dish that I really like but I don’t know what it’s called. It tastes kind of like a sweet curry flavor and is very juicy. Would anyone happen to know what it could be?
I don’t know why, but tofu makes me ill. I’ve tried it made differently, and in all but one case, my stomach and it didn’t agree.
One Thai restaurant had a great tofu that I was able to eat, but that’s been the only one, and it’s over 1000 miles to get more.
If you’re making it on your own, the problem might be that you don’t press it. Unpressed tofu makes me feel sick too, and it’s really vital to do so so it can absorb flavors.
If it’s when you’re eating out, I’m not really sure in that case. Tofu can be anything from extremely soft to pretty firm, so it could be the firmness of the tofu that’s an issue here, but it’s hard to say. I like it when tofu is very firm and then cooked to be crispy personally.
I’ve never cooked tofu myself. The one good meal I had, I had been eating for 6 months before realizing it was tofu! It was great. Sadly, I moved from South Texas to the north, and cannot find a place that can prepare tofu I can stomach.
Modpost on the whole thing:
https://lemmy.world/post/19731457
I’m just going to take a wild guess that the two downvotes on your comment are two of the three ex-mods, based on their behaviour in this thread
That’s a good post.
Amazingly level headed response actually, I have no criticism whatsoever.
Even though it’s scientifically unsupportable, I’m still genuinely interested in what it’s like to live on Vega.
Listen up, carnoid of planet Omnius, many geological surveys have shown robust evidence that Vega is capable of harboring all known forms of humanoid life and that its atmospheric makeup in fact provides benefits for cardiovascular health and hivemind coherency.
They grow up so fast.