True. It might have been better though if the Lemmy devs hadn’t been such cheapskates and forked over the 10 bucks it takes to get a domain name that isn’t sketchy.
The parent domain was apparently well known to be a common host of phishing domains and scam sites. Free domains tend to attract those types, so that’s a good reason from the start not to use that if you want your site to be reliably accessible and findable on search engines.
.be and .to are free to use by anyone as set by the respective countries registrars, anyone that registers a .it domain outside of Europe is just asking for trouble
lemmy.ml was a sort of prototype made by the devs of the lemmy software. It wasn’t really meant for widespread public adoption. So it makes sense that they went with a free domain.
Maybe. I read the idea about it standing for Marxist/Leninist, but there’s thousands of TLDs now - if you can get .diamonds and .world, there’s probably something that would evoke the same lefty idea (although maybe lemmy pre-dates the new domains, I don’t know)
@freamon Agreed, it’s a silver lining post, for sure.
But generally I find people say “you see, this is why the Fediverse/Lemmy/Mastodon etc will never take off” for every blip of bad news or whatever. But in reality, while the news sucks for .ml servers, it highlights the resiliency of the Fediverse - which is a win.
And better to happen in the early days of Lemmy than when/if it got much bigger.
You say that as though there’s some kind of crystal ball we can all look into and see all of the obstacles that will need to be cleared and prepare accordingly. That’s not how scaling web services works, especially distributed ones that are built on a relatively new protocol.
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That’s a very positive spin on quite a shitty situation (especially if lemmy.ml goes kaputt)
I mean, the .ml domain belongs to Mali and they have every right to take it back.
“Every right”? No. They have the power to do so but that doesn’t make it right. They sold those domains fair and square. Contracts were signed.
Domains aren’t sold, they are leased for a period of time. In this case the lease was for ten years and is lapsing now.
True. It might have been better though if the Lemmy devs hadn’t been such cheapskates and forked over the 10 bucks it takes to get a domain name that isn’t sketchy.
Did we know before it’s sketchy?
My work uses zScaler for its Internet web filters. zScaler has everything *.ml blocked.
So yeah, it’s fairly well-known to be sketchy.
.ml is just Mali’s country domain. Maybe your workplace should get a better filter?
Or maybe realising anything ending in .ml was most likely spam and if it caught the 5 legitimate Mali domains oh well, zero loss for anyone.
Kinda like how I wouldn’t download a file from a .ru site.
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The parent domain was apparently well known to be a common host of phishing domains and scam sites. Free domains tend to attract those types, so that’s a good reason from the start not to use that if you want your site to be reliably accessible and findable on search engines.
I did, I just messed up and didn’t tell anybody. I’m sorry folks, this is on me.
Yes. Hosting a service in a country other than where a TLD is designated for is bad practice and common knowledge for any web developer
Guess nobody told youtu.be or the million of services on .to or .it…
.be and .to are free to use by anyone as set by the respective countries registrars, anyone that registers a .it domain outside of Europe is just asking for trouble
Do Belgium and Italy have different policies?
lemmy.ml was a sort of prototype made by the devs of the lemmy software. It wasn’t really meant for widespread public adoption. So it makes sense that they went with a free domain.
Lol they could’ve just spend $10 from the donations they receive to secure an actual .com domain
Pretty sure they went with .ml not for price reasons, but because they liked to pretend it stood for their political ideology.
They stated themselves that it was for price reasons.
Maybe. I read the idea about it standing for Marxist/Leninist, but there’s thousands of TLDs now - if you can get .diamonds and .world, there’s probably something that would evoke the same lefty idea (although maybe lemmy pre-dates the new domains, I don’t know)
New domains have been around for a while. The fancy ones are a bit more pricey.
@freamon Agreed, it’s a silver lining post, for sure.
But generally I find people say “you see, this is why the Fediverse/Lemmy/Mastodon etc will never take off” for every blip of bad news or whatever. But in reality, while the news sucks for .ml servers, it highlights the resiliency of the Fediverse - which is a win.
And better to happen in the early days of Lemmy than when/if it got much bigger.
Newsflash: It’s getting bigger as we speak. Prepare for all of the scalability problems now, not later when it’s even harder to fix.
You say that as though there’s some kind of crystal ball we can all look into and see all of the obstacles that will need to be cleared and prepare accordingly. That’s not how scaling web services works, especially distributed ones that are built on a relatively new protocol.
@freamon can you imagine if Lemmy (in total) was just *poof* grabbed by a government?
The fediverse lives to ride another day.