As is evidenced, multiple comments have been removed by mods. The Mod log shows the moderator removing multiple of these comments due to “rule 1”, which on lemmy.ml is:
No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.
The mods then also banned some of the commenting users for a few days.
This all lead to a post by one of the affected users to AskLemmy, accusing the mods of “removing all comments critical of Hamas”. “No comments critical of Israel were removed”, the user alleges. The post has since been removed by the lemmy.ml mods as well and the user banned for 14 days.
In the news related communities on that instance it was the same shit. Tankies trolling and straight up insulting others, or just spreading disinformation. I tried reporting them but they never bothered to do ANYTHING and the same trolls did the same shit over and over again in other comment sections. That’s when I decided to block all the Lemmy.ml communities when I see them. It’s just Lemmygrad pretending not to be Lemmygrad.
I try to resurrect [email protected] about the show “The Office” should I move it elsewhere?
It’s a pretty laid-back show, and there were already 400 people in that community, so it made more sense to keep using it rather than create another one from scratch.
There is a television and movies specific instance somewhere. If you search communities you should be able to find it. I’d create show specific communities in that instance.
It would be more concerning to have this on Lemmy.world
It does. I have experienced it myself. The Mods have themselves stated that there is no freedom of speech in lemmy.world.
Additionally, because many people have an incorrect understanding of it: Bias is not exclusive to any specific individual or group of individual. Every individual and group of individuals has bias. All Human Beings have bias of one form or other and that is simply because the Human Conscious is a reflection of the Material Conditions and is not independent from it.
You are correct, and therefore there shouldn’t be freedom of speech for the sake of it in any social media platform worth going to. “Free speech” ignores the values of respect, ettiquite and gives plenty of room for trolls and flamebaiters to play games with moderators. Seems like a nightmare for a server operator to manage.
To have a place where people can have level-headed discussion about topics including controversial ones, certain ground rules need to be set, which inherently are limits to speech. If you don’t like the rules or how they are enforced, the freedom that you have in Lemmy/the Fediverse is to move to another server in line with what you think are better rules/rulers, or for you to bother with the moderation work yourself in your own community on your own server where no one tells you what to do.
Is it bigotry to say that both sides have done some horrific shit, and that the current conflict is approaching 100 years, and was going on in different forms for centuries before that?
Is it bigotry to say there’s no solution as long as both sides have the goal of exterminating the other, and weaponizing the grief of their own groups?
The whole thing is the very definition of a clusterfuck, and I’m not a member of either group, so I normally shut the fuck up.
I (early GenX) grew up with: it is an ugly conflict between two evil sides who do not hold back to kill. When agreements are reached, there is always one side who breaches the agreements. Periodic killing returns in a continuous cycle. At the end of every period the conflict hardens and borders are moved. I have not changed my opinion. I have not seen an eye opener in the past months. SNAFU: Situation Normal, All Fucked Up
Removed for Rule 1 and given a 4 day ban.
I’d have to see if their code of conduct covers the F word or something but it’s not a ban that would sit right with me.
I probably wouldn’t ban someone for it, but it’s not difficult to see why that comment is a distasteful and callous oversimplification of the reality of what’s happening, and it has nothing to do with the f word. If we’re going to pick one word to single out I’d say it should be “normal.” This situation is not normal by any standard.
callous oversimplification of the reality of what’s happening
Kick out the jams:
I (early GenX) grew up with
I have not seen an eye opener in the past months.
I don’t see a problem with the phrasing. Jams is saying “this is what I saw” which is really a product of their environment. This isn’t a ban-worthy comment. This is an educational moment. This is an opportunity to say “that’s not what happened, you were fed a bunch of propaganda.”
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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)
Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.
Includes lore like how a instance got it’s name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc
(New) This sub’s intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don’t get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama
Fedilore feels like a place to complain about leftist instances at this point, lol. Free Palestine and Fuck Zionism.
It’s a place to document drama, not to complain about it lol
I beg to differ.
If exploding heads was still around I’m sure there’d be a lot of complaining about them here too. What happened to them anyway?
No longer on fedi, moved to Nostr protocol
I’m not surprised.
Who were the bourgeoisie that Stalin purged? Oh, right, most of them were Jewish.
Horseshoe theory strikes again.
In the news related communities on that instance it was the same shit. Tankies trolling and straight up insulting others, or just spreading disinformation. I tried reporting them but they never bothered to do ANYTHING and the same trolls did the same shit over and over again in other comment sections. That’s when I decided to block all the Lemmy.ml communities when I see them. It’s just Lemmygrad pretending not to be Lemmygrad.
I try to resurrect [email protected] about the show “The Office” should I move it elsewhere?
It’s a pretty laid-back show, and there were already 400 people in that community, so it made more sense to keep using it rather than create another one from scratch.
There is a television and movies specific instance somewhere. If you search communities you should be able to find it. I’d create show specific communities in that instance.
Found it and it already has a The Office community; https://lemmy.film/c/theofficeus
Well, I was a big fan of lemmy.film, posted a lot to the communities there, but unfortunately it has been down for a few weeks now.
We created [email protected] as a replacement to [email protected].
Since then, I try to stick with established instances.
Seriously? You didn’t even bother archiving the drama?
Lame 🥱
Edit: Actual link from another instance
I tried to, but didnt manage to get that Link properly working
Well, lemmy.ml is known to have some bias.
It would be more concerning to have this on Lemmy.world
lol
It does. I have experienced it myself. The Mods have themselves stated that there is no freedom of speech in lemmy.world.
Additionally, because many people have an incorrect understanding of it: Bias is not exclusive to any specific individual or group of individual. Every individual and group of individuals has bias. All Human Beings have bias of one form or other and that is simply because the Human Conscious is a reflection of the Material Conditions and is not independent from it.
You are correct, and therefore there shouldn’t be freedom of speech for the sake of it in any social media platform worth going to. “Free speech” ignores the values of respect, ettiquite and gives plenty of room for trolls and flamebaiters to play games with moderators. Seems like a nightmare for a server operator to manage.
To have a place where people can have level-headed discussion about topics including controversial ones, certain ground rules need to be set, which inherently are limits to speech. If you don’t like the rules or how they are enforced, the freedom that you have in Lemmy/the Fediverse is to move to another server in line with what you think are better rules/rulers, or for you to bother with the moderation work yourself in your own community on your own server where no one tells you what to do.
I guess as always, users need to assess how the moderation of communities fit wit their own views, and change communities/instances if needed.
Is it bigotry to say that both sides have done some horrific shit, and that the current conflict is approaching 100 years, and was going on in different forms for centuries before that?
Is it bigotry to say there’s no solution as long as both sides have the goal of exterminating the other, and weaponizing the grief of their own groups?
The whole thing is the very definition of a clusterfuck, and I’m not a member of either group, so I normally shut the fuck up.
Removed for Rule 1 and given a 4 day ban.
I’d have to see if their code of conduct covers the F word or something but it’s not a ban that would sit right with me.
That one I can see why the comment is removed. The Statement that
simply is a blatant lie.
I probably wouldn’t ban someone for it, but it’s not difficult to see why that comment is a distasteful and callous oversimplification of the reality of what’s happening, and it has nothing to do with the f word. If we’re going to pick one word to single out I’d say it should be “normal.” This situation is not normal by any standard.
Your comment.
Kick out the jams:
I don’t see a problem with the phrasing. Jams is saying “this is what I saw” which is really a product of their environment. This isn’t a ban-worthy comment. This is an educational moment. This is an opportunity to say “that’s not what happened, you were fed a bunch of propaganda.”