Stay away from advertising money , if you need money to keep a server up then start a gofundme or a patreon or something … make it community based so that your instance stays community based .
It‘s like Twitter basically, but since it‘s also in the fediverse there is a bit of overlap where Mastodon people can comment on Lemmy/kbin stuff too anyway. Usually they have something like @LostCause and hashtags like #mastodon and so on in their comments, that‘s how I typically spot them.
So their growth is relevant for us, but you don‘t need to make an account there.
If a mastodon user mentions (@) a community, they’ll post there. They can also reply to comments on Lemmy and you’ll see it. Unfortunately I don’t think Lemmy has a way to see regular mastodon accounts/comments right now other than that.
Mastodon is hard to get into because at first you only really see what is coming from your own instance. You have to really look around and find the people and topics you want to see in your feed. It’s a much more carefully curated set of content than you get from Twitter, which just bombards you with hot takes and garbage all the time.
Just like twitter except what you see on your feed is reliant on what #’s or people you follow. So you essentially have more control over what you see and you wont get any posts from some rando like twitter does
It’s not like here at all. No shitposts. Only people who use their real name and work for some non profit sharing their highly intelligent news bulletins. I haven’t found any memes
I think the most enjoyable feature is that there is no algorithm in Fediverse. And decentralization means that if you host your own server for Pixelfed (instagram equivalent) for example, your data will go offline at the moment you disconnect your server from the internet.
Lemmy is great alternative for Reddit especially if you’re into tech.
And thanks to activityPub there is interoperability between services. I only have a Mastodon account, but I can follow people on pixelfed without problem. It moves the focus back onto communicating rather than being on the platform
What do you mean by “no algorithm”? There must be something controlling the order of “hot” vs “new”? Or do you mean the kind of algorithm that shows you suggested communities?
Yeah, there’s an “algorithm” here but rather than a black box of trade secrets and manipulation it’s entirely open source, and mathematically simple.
mastodon idk, it probably has a similar algo for its Explore page but I think the user feed is just made up of posts from people you follow in chrono order.
the user feed is just made up of posts from people you follow in chrono order.
You can also follow hashtags, block hashtags, and block words/phrases.
The Local Timeline shows posts from everyone on your instance. The Federated Timeline is a fire hose. It shows all posts in chronological order (as received by your instance).
I think there’s a lot of value to the algorithm, but it needs to be based on real engagement rather than arbitrary bullshit that a soulless corporation wants to promote.
I subscribe to a lot of people, but not all of their content is worth seeing. Having it curated down to just the stuff that’s actually popular can be nice. It’s definitely tricky to make that work in a fair and useful way though.
The nice thing is, if an instance wanted to put in the effort they could totally make an algorithm. We will have to grow a lot before it’s worth the bother to make a good one, but it’s totally possible.
Some people are building systems on top of Mastodon, for example https://fedistats.cc/trends
In the end something like “plug in your own algorithm” would be great.
It’s really interesting… i gave it a shot a few days back. You’ve to follow stuff or hashtags you’re interested in for things to show up… after that take it slow and follow more things… I’ve found some really good music playlists, art, programming discussions on there. There’s also an explore section which shows trending topics and posts. I can recommend it as the users are mature and in my experience not toxic.
There’s only a certain number of people in the world, and only a subset of them have easy access to the internet, and only a subset of them have disposable income.
That instance hosts news feeds copied from Twitter. I found it useful to replace what I used Twitter for mostly. I’ve since found other mastodon users to follow, you just need to lurk about a bit and look at what’s trending.
A lot of people left due to it not being morally sound for them to support Musk and his actions.
But now there are paywalled features that are ruining the functional experience of Twitter. You can’t look at the site for more than half an hour before getting restricted on a free account
Plus Mastodon has had time to polish instances, apps and gain a userbase so it is a little easier to transition
To be honest - Lemmy migration made me an active Mastodon user.
I joined Mastodon right after Musk took over Twitter. I was never big on Twitter but wanted to try mastodon.
But never became active. Because I was not a tweeter. I was also not a tooter.
The Reddit exodus was a wake up call for me and I committed to become a user and supporter in fediverse. So the migration to Lemmy/Kbin activated me as a Mastodon active users.
I mean, each time he’s messed it up more, another group of people migrates off twitter over to alternatives. I also think more people in general are becoming aware of the fediverse in general thanks to what’s going on w/ reddit, but that’s speculation on my part.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]
A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it’s related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).
If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to [email protected]!
Rules
Posts must be on topic.
Be respectful of others.
Cite the sources used for graphs and other statistics.
Stay away from advertising money , if you need money to keep a server up then start a gofundme or a patreon or something … make it community based so that your instance stays community based .
Great news. I really wish I could get on with it.
Joined yesterday, Elon boi going down a right wing rabbithole and the zucc-verse is not very appetizing.
Very cool, I am one of the 8800 😸
What’s the occasion?
Wednesday!
Everything is going according to the plan!
‘There is broad consensus among experts that the early 2020s shifts in social media populations were what has come to be called asshole-driven.’
Scraping Assholes-A History of Social Media from 2006-2056
R. McDonald (2069), published by McDonald’s Textbook Division, Schaumburg, IL, USA
McDonald’s diversifying into higher education publishing is a scary, and not as far-fetched as it should be, reality.
Chad citation… the future looks bright, time traveler!
Mastodon is the most stable social network I have used in a long time. Love it!
Everyone is okay. I haven’t even seen sinophobia yet
It’s here unfortunately, but unlike reddit, opposing opinions aren’t modded out.
1989 Tianneman square protests
removed by mod
But that’s just like, your opinion
Heckin’ yeah!
Can someone tell me what Mastodon is like please, I have social network fatigue and can’t be bothered to try another one? 😅
It‘s like Twitter basically, but since it‘s also in the fediverse there is a bit of overlap where Mastodon people can comment on Lemmy/kbin stuff too anyway. Usually they have something like @LostCause and hashtags like #mastodon and so on in their comments, that‘s how I typically spot them.
So their growth is relevant for us, but you don‘t need to make an account there.
Can we post on their instances too? How?
Test @[email protected]
Testing @[email protected] x’D
Yes I want to know this too, ty.
I don’t think you can from Lemmy, but /kbin has a microblogging feature where it’s fully integrated.
Thank you, this makes sense. Can I view Mastodon posts from lemmy.world? I can’t recall seeing any but maybe it’s not obvious.
If a mastodon user mentions (@) a community, they’ll post there. They can also reply to comments on Lemmy and you’ll see it. Unfortunately I don’t think Lemmy has a way to see regular mastodon accounts/comments right now other than that.
Got it, thank you :)
@Lazylazycat as an example, hello! i’m replying from Mastodon on https://mastodon.social.
for some reason i can’t see your profile pictures (on lemmy accounts, kbin are fine apparently)
Oh hi! See on my Lemmy app you just look like any other user, that’s cool. I don’t have a profile pic but maybe you wouldn’t see it if I did?
@Lazylazycat i presume i would then if you did…
Mastodon is hard to get into because at first you only really see what is coming from your own instance. You have to really look around and find the people and topics you want to see in your feed. It’s a much more carefully curated set of content than you get from Twitter, which just bombards you with hot takes and garbage all the time.
how did you make it to Fediverse-B without knowing about Fediverse-A?
I know of Mastodon but haven’t browsed it. I came to Lemmy first from Reddit.
Just like twitter except what you see on your feed is reliant on what #’s or people you follow. So you essentially have more control over what you see and you wont get any posts from some rando like twitter does
It’s not like here at all. No shitposts. Only people who use their real name and work for some non profit sharing their highly intelligent news bulletins. I haven’t found any memes
Microblogging Fediverse app, Lemmy/kbin is to Reddit as Mastodon is to Twitter
Thanks mate.
Also you don’t need a blue check mark to post relatively longer paragraphs.
I think the most enjoyable feature is that there is no algorithm in Fediverse. And decentralization means that if you host your own server for Pixelfed (instagram equivalent) for example, your data will go offline at the moment you disconnect your server from the internet.
Lemmy is great alternative for Reddit especially if you’re into tech.
And thanks to activityPub there is interoperability between services. I only have a Mastodon account, but I can follow people on pixelfed without problem. It moves the focus back onto communicating rather than being on the platform
What do you mean by “no algorithm”? There must be something controlling the order of “hot” vs “new”? Or do you mean the kind of algorithm that shows you suggested communities?
Yeah, there’s an “algorithm” here but rather than a black box of trade secrets and manipulation it’s entirely open source, and mathematically simple.
mastodon idk, it probably has a similar algo for its Explore page but I think the user feed is just made up of posts from people you follow in chrono order.
And, as far as I can see, neutral. Doesn’t put you in a bubble like other social networks do, because it’s not trying to milk you for engagement.
You can also follow hashtags, block hashtags, and block words/phrases.
The Local Timeline shows posts from everyone on your instance. The Federated Timeline is a fire hose. It shows all posts in chronological order (as received by your instance).
I think there’s a lot of value to the algorithm, but it needs to be based on real engagement rather than arbitrary bullshit that a soulless corporation wants to promote.
I subscribe to a lot of people, but not all of their content is worth seeing. Having it curated down to just the stuff that’s actually popular can be nice. It’s definitely tricky to make that work in a fair and useful way though.
The nice thing is, if an instance wanted to put in the effort they could totally make an algorithm. We will have to grow a lot before it’s worth the bother to make a good one, but it’s totally possible.
Some people are building systems on top of Mastodon, for example https://fedistats.cc/trends In the end something like “plug in your own algorithm” would be great.
It’s like twitter but without the bullshit. I’ve never used twitter so not interested in Mastodon, but I’m glad it’s out there.
It’s really interesting… i gave it a shot a few days back. You’ve to follow stuff or hashtags you’re interested in for things to show up… after that take it slow and follow more things… I’ve found some really good music playlists, art, programming discussions on there. There’s also an explore section which shows trending topics and posts. I can recommend it as the users are mature and in my experience not toxic.
New achievement unlocked
That’s a lot of people that are realizing Silicon Valley is full of shit
Certainly full of detached CEO’s
Who are obsessed with endless growth ideas and introducing subscription models so that you end up with countless of subscriptions.
There’s only a certain number of people in the world, and only a subset of them have easy access to the internet, and only a subset of them have disposable income.
Yet infinite profits are the expectation somehow.
I joined recently! I gotta admit, I’m not sure what to do exactly…I’ve never been very good at social media. But I got one!
Good tips here:
https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-find-accounts-to-follow-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-how-do-i-find-my-friends/
Thanks!! This has some really good stuff. I think following hashtags will help. I never really used Twitter so this is all kinda new
https://press.coop/directory helps for following news feeds 👍
Can I subscribe to that on Mastodon?
No one I’m really interested in following is on there yet so my feed there is essentially empty.
That instance hosts news feeds copied from Twitter. I found it useful to replace what I used Twitter for mostly. I’ve since found other mastodon users to follow, you just need to lurk about a bit and look at what’s trending.
What’s the reason for mastodon to gain so many new users now suddenly? Didn’t Elon Musk start wrecking it quite a while ago?
A lot of people left due to it not being morally sound for them to support Musk and his actions.
But now there are paywalled features that are ruining the functional experience of Twitter. You can’t look at the site for more than half an hour before getting restricted on a free account
Plus Mastodon has had time to polish instances, apps and gain a userbase so it is a little easier to transition
The Twitter panic and lock down. You can’t read tweets without being logged in
To be honest - Lemmy migration made me an active Mastodon user.
I joined Mastodon right after Musk took over Twitter. I was never big on Twitter but wanted to try mastodon.
But never became active. Because I was not a tweeter. I was also not a tooter.
The Reddit exodus was a wake up call for me and I committed to become a user and supporter in fediverse. So the migration to Lemmy/Kbin activated me as a Mastodon active users.
I mean, each time he’s messed it up more, another group of people migrates off twitter over to alternatives. I also think more people in general are becoming aware of the fediverse in general thanks to what’s going on w/ reddit, but that’s speculation on my part.
Seriously, it feels like established social medias are trying to kill themselves lol
They were already killing themselves by running at a loss. Now they’re enshittifying to try and make any profit.
But switching costs were lower than they had hoped, so there’s no profit to be made. Their business model was flawed.
The Boomers were right about (federated) email all along and now the rest of the internet is figuring it out.
Yay! I still don’t know how to use anything that looks like twitter tho
I would humbly submit calkey as an alternative. It’s the best interface I’ve seen out of anything on the fediverse.
cool.
I spun up a Calckey instance a week or so ago. It’s leaps and bounds better than Mastodon.