A lot of people use social media to follow celebrities, brands, politicians, etc., and Mastodon doesn’t have that (yet at least).
I prefer Mastodon, my feed consists of the people I decided to follow, instead of an algorithmic one. But one have to accept that Mastodon lacks the kind of users that most people want to follow.
Hopefully, if Meta ends up delivering on their promise to add support for the Fediverse, I will be able to follow the kind of people that otherwise would’ve never joined Mastodon (ie brands that would offer support for their products), from my Mastodon client of choice.
I know a lot of people disagree with Meta joining the Fediverse, but I prefer to be optimistic about it. Also, Mastodon supports blocking domains at a user level, so if you really don’t want to interact with @threads.net users, you can do it yourself.
Worst case scenario, we get back to the current status quo, so there’s nothing to lose.
That’s pretty much why I’ve been reluctant to join either Mastodon or Threads, compared to Lemmy. On Reddit/Lemmy, it doesn’t really matter who I talk with, as long as a community exists for the topics I’m interested in. But on Twitter, I pretty much exclusively follow content creators and don’t care to interact with anyone else. Until those streamers/youtubers/artists jump ship, I’m pretty much stuck on Twitter with them. When they do, I can only hope they pick Mastodon over Threads, so I can actually filter my feed to those I choose to follow, but ultimately I gotta go where they are.
Haha perfect. Not to take away from this, but threads makes the onboarding experience just so much easier and with the existing social graph from instagram they have basically everyone on earth linked already
It means data that has been recorded to your health app - steps per day/hour, sleep hours/analysis, heart rate readings if you have a watch or device that does that, estimated calories burned, etc.
Useful data for you to know and control, but incredibly creepy for a corporation like Meta to take for no reason other than to build an intrusive ad profile.
These are primarily the data stored by your health apps and sos information.
If you’ve Android health info stored for emergency cases, some apps with right permission can access it. You know to save your life.
Likewise, your health record on your health apps like Google/Apple/Samsung health store a lot of information about you like steps, sleep trends, heart rate, diabetes, water intake, and even period regularity.
In normal cases these records should only be known to you or shared with apps you approve.
Threads has no business normally to request these data, but if they want go serve you relevant ads, these become quite useful information.
They can show you sanitary products when you’re on period, or show ads for meds when you’ve high blood pressure. None of these should be monetised, but they can very well will be.
I’m guessing there’s no direct place for it there without reading email ( but even then your doctor should not be emailing you directly without a layer of encryption).
Probably it’s more of a “hey if we stumble on it it’s ours now”. Like if you subscribe to a lot of parkinson’s info they probably can safely assume you or someone you know has Parkinson’s. And they’ll use that to shove ads in your face.
Tumblr said that too but never did it actually. It’s not so easy to join a network where the skills of any single “kid” could be compared to your 1000+ employees company.
Not yet, but they’ve said it will be. Personally I’m excited to see “mainstream” social media using ActivityPub, but you’ll find that it’s quite a divisive issue.
I’ve said this elsewhere, but I don’t really agree with the article’s premise about what happened to XMPP.
XMPP was a niche thing before Google appeared, and it remained a niche thing after Google left. That said, it would have been much better had Google continued to support it!
I figured it out, but after nearly giving up on it. There’s basically no algorithm to suggest you content like on other sites, so you gotta search for hashtags for stuff you’re interested in and follow them. You basically create your own content pushing algorithm by scratch.
I like it, but considering the average twitter user isn’t going to get it after having content and people pushed to them by twitter’s algorithm, I can see why so many people gave up on it. Then again the people who are actually there seem cool enough, and it’s nice to have a microblog and drip feed that isn’t drowning in drama and sponsorships. I think I kinda prefer if Masto stays small.
I feel like the strange one in this post because I HATE algorithms. I want chronological order of what I am following, and a chrono feed of everything for discovering new people. I find that Mastodon is great this way so long as you’re on a server that hasn’t disabled the federated feed.
All the folks complaining about their only being able to discover people/content from things their local instance are following are apparently on instances that only have the local feed turned on, or maybe have never looked at the federated feed.
The official Mastodon app doesn’t show federated. Tusky is the way.
you think they know?
you think that Instagram users have any idea about what they are getting into?
most of them probably don’t even know that Instangram is owned by Meta / Facebook, despite the small logo.
I mean Zuck is not batshit crazy like the Musketeer. Not like he won’t sell you out but atleast his platforms are stable. Apparently that’s enough for people.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]
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ikr! Like I’m so confused like, just get on mastodon and don’t deal with threads like ???
A lot of people use social media to follow celebrities, brands, politicians, etc., and Mastodon doesn’t have that (yet at least).
I prefer Mastodon, my feed consists of the people I decided to follow, instead of an algorithmic one. But one have to accept that Mastodon lacks the kind of users that most people want to follow.
Hopefully, if Meta ends up delivering on their promise to add support for the Fediverse, I will be able to follow the kind of people that otherwise would’ve never joined Mastodon (ie brands that would offer support for their products), from my Mastodon client of choice.
I know a lot of people disagree with Meta joining the Fediverse, but I prefer to be optimistic about it. Also, Mastodon supports blocking domains at a user level, so if you really don’t want to interact with @threads.net users, you can do it yourself.
Worst case scenario, we get back to the current status quo, so there’s nothing to lose.
That’s pretty much why I’ve been reluctant to join either Mastodon or Threads, compared to Lemmy. On Reddit/Lemmy, it doesn’t really matter who I talk with, as long as a community exists for the topics I’m interested in. But on Twitter, I pretty much exclusively follow content creators and don’t care to interact with anyone else. Until those streamers/youtubers/artists jump ship, I’m pretty much stuck on Twitter with them. When they do, I can only hope they pick Mastodon over Threads, so I can actually filter my feed to those I choose to follow, but ultimately I gotta go where they are.
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY. I’m so glad to see someone else say this.
Haha perfect. Not to take away from this, but threads makes the onboarding experience just so much easier and with the existing social graph from instagram they have basically everyone on earth linked already
The biggest L is watching porn artists try to move to Threads when the platform doesn’t even allow their content.
An alternative to Twitter with an Instagram flavor.
Don’t forget the amount of data you’ll be sharing, including health records
Dang you weren’t kidding. I know everyone here fucking hates all things social media but I was actually enjoying the content on Threads.
However they seem to be collecting literally everything about me even down to my workout routines and sleeping habits…this really gives me pause.
Seriously question, how do they get access to your health data, short of reading emails or sms?
I’m guessing they record if you’ve been viewing a lot of, say, heartburn-related content, or once said “I suffer from heartburn”.
It means data that has been recorded to your health app - steps per day/hour, sleep hours/analysis, heart rate readings if you have a watch or device that does that, estimated calories burned, etc.
Useful data for you to know and control, but incredibly creepy for a corporation like Meta to take for no reason other than to build an intrusive ad profile.
Ah gotcha, now I’m glad I haven’t set my phone up to monitor any of that
These are primarily the data stored by your health apps and sos information.
If you’ve Android health info stored for emergency cases, some apps with right permission can access it. You know to save your life.
Likewise, your health record on your health apps like Google/Apple/Samsung health store a lot of information about you like steps, sleep trends, heart rate, diabetes, water intake, and even period regularity.
In normal cases these records should only be known to you or shared with apps you approve.
Threads has no business normally to request these data, but if they want go serve you relevant ads, these become quite useful information.
They can show you sanitary products when you’re on period, or show ads for meds when you’ve high blood pressure. None of these should be monetised, but they can very well will be.
I’m guessing there’s no direct place for it there without reading email ( but even then your doctor should not be emailing you directly without a layer of encryption).
Probably it’s more of a “hey if we stumble on it it’s ours now”. Like if you subscribe to a lot of parkinson’s info they probably can safely assume you or someone you know has Parkinson’s. And they’ll use that to shove ads in your face.
Can’t they read sensor data and infer certain conditions from that? For example if you have a limp or something?
Is it just me or does threads symbol look like no step on snek?
Are threads federated?
it can interact with mastodon yeah.
but afaik it’s a one-way integration currently. (mastodon users can see threads users but not vise versa)
Threads is federated afaik, yeah. It’s just that many Fediverse instanced blocked Meta.
They haven’t federated yet but they say they will eventually. I’m going to change instances to ones that don’t want to join them if/when it happens.
Tumblr said that too but never did it actually. It’s not so easy to join a network where the skills of any single “kid” could be compared to your 1000+ employees company.
Not yet, but they’ve said it will be. Personally I’m excited to see “mainstream” social media using ActivityPub, but you’ll find that it’s quite a divisive issue.
Same. Glad to see not everyone wants rid of it
I was also on your boat, until I read this… Take into account this was published before Threads was official. https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
I’ve said this elsewhere, but I don’t really agree with the article’s premise about what happened to XMPP.
XMPP was a niche thing before Google appeared, and it remained a niche thing after Google left. That said, it would have been much better had Google continued to support it!
Mastodon is a mess though.
I figured it out, but after nearly giving up on it. There’s basically no algorithm to suggest you content like on other sites, so you gotta search for hashtags for stuff you’re interested in and follow them. You basically create your own content pushing algorithm by scratch.
I like it, but considering the average twitter user isn’t going to get it after having content and people pushed to them by twitter’s algorithm, I can see why so many people gave up on it. Then again the people who are actually there seem cool enough, and it’s nice to have a microblog and drip feed that isn’t drowning in drama and sponsorships. I think I kinda prefer if Masto stays small.
I feel like the strange one in this post because I HATE algorithms. I want chronological order of what I am following, and a chrono feed of everything for discovering new people. I find that Mastodon is great this way so long as you’re on a server that hasn’t disabled the federated feed.
All the folks complaining about their only being able to discover people/content from things their local instance are following are apparently on instances that only have the local feed turned on, or maybe have never looked at the federated feed.
The official Mastodon app doesn’t show federated. Tusky is the way.
you think they know?
you think that Instagram users have any idea about what they are getting into?
most of them probably don’t even know that Instangram is owned by Meta / Facebook, despite the small logo.
Twitter … never heard that in a while.
Lol, I got hyped about Threads until I saw who runs it… meta… yeah no thanks!
And the fact that threads will be compatible with the fediverse make the mastodon’s user: 😁 😁
let them take baby steps
Federation is so confusing! Why can’t I just sign up at facebook.com where the rest of the internet is? You guys and your cryptofederatedarkweb.
yes, that is exactly what the Internet should be, with full VR…
Instructions unclear; dick in toaster.
(BEEP!)
It’s insane how much people actually unironically chill for Meta and Zuckerberg now because Elmo is mad. Fucking Zuckerberg…
I mean Zuck is not batshit crazy like the Musketeer. Not like he won’t sell you out but atleast his platforms are stable. Apparently that’s enough for people.
The bar is actually really fucking low, but Musk with twitter just doesn’t make it.
Yeah, for some reason there will always be people who are willing to use software that harms them.
It’s shill. Like the shilling (old currency) which has nothing to do with being cool headed.
Ah shit, this is what happens when you type too fast and don’t proofread 😅. Thanks.